HSPA+ 42 data speed on Tmobile.

[ColoradoSteve]

I completely understand what you're talking about and for simple web surfing 2 megs is more than sufficient.

However,i download movies, videos, streaming, Skype, and i use the cloud, and it takes a lot longer on 2mb, so speed IS A MAJOR PART of the user experience.

For someone that just uses gps, web surfing and doesn't use their phone to its full potential, then yes, anything else is just extra

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You reinforce my point. It comes down to user experience. You would experience unpleasant wait times. Others wouldn't.

Although I question the 'need' of super fast for streaming (Netflix on a phone), Skype, etc. Moving large files around - yep - faster is almost always better.

Then again - if you look at the time that you are actually doing the 'heavy lifting' are you around wifi?

Those are just questions to ask.

I'm not trying to argue - just putting out talking points

 

[qnet]

I think that many people miss the boat on speed tests.

I work in IT. Many people in this industry strive for the fastest processor or the fastest disk drive or the fastest network. They are usually the new/younger guys that get all starry-eyed with the tech specs.

I've been doing this a long time. What pays the bills and keeps me employed is the user experience. It doesn't matter how fast the sales guy says his stuff is. It doesn't matter if you have a 10Gig or a 100Gig network. What matters is that the customer (end user) is satisfied with the experience of using the system to get their work done.

That said - is HSPA+ speed (either T-Mobile or AT&T) enough to do what you want to on the phone. If you didn't have SpeedTest and your only reference was 'It seems fast to me' or 'it really makes me wait awhile' - then LTE vs HSPA+14 vs HSPA+42 wouldn't matter. It either is fast enough to make you happy or it isn't.

Honestly, I think that most people should remove the speed testing apps and just enjoy the phone. 2meg down is pretty darn fast for web browsing or Facebook or Twitter. Is 20meg faster? Sure, but does it really matter? Probably not. I think that 2meg down across 99% of where I go would be fantastic

Steve

Great points. I work in I.T. on the side. What I've noticed is if you have atleast a constant 6Mbps down you can do just about anything, from just browsing to streaming videos. I just like doing speedtest because I'm a geek and it's fun to see a device pull down a speed close or more than home internet ( although the ping times are no were near at times).

I read somewhere that LTE isn't really true 4G, it just a marketing thing and; the association that sets the standard just let the the cell phone companies go ahead and call it that.

 

[The Hustleman]

You reinforce my point. It comes down to user experience. You would experience unpleasant wait times. Others wouldn't.

Although I question the 'need' of super fast for streaming (Netflix on a phone), Skype, etc. Moving large files around - yep - faster is almost always better.

Then again - if you look at the time that you are actually doing the 'heavy lifting' are you around wifi?

Those are just questions to ask.

I'm not trying to argue - just putting out talking points

I notice that the higher the speed, the better the video quality is on Skype mobile. Ping times are important too, just as important as speed imo.

And if i am around Wi-Fi, do you not know how SLOW hotspots are? It would take me forever to transfer anything.

And that's IF I'm around Wi-Fi. Usually not unless I'm home.

And i don't take your comments as argumentative, you're giving your perception as I'm giving mine, we just differ and so far we both respect each other viewpoints.

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[limdoug]

While waiting for my Nexus 4 to come in, I picked up a T-Mobile branded HTC One S and did a few speed tests. Plenty fast for me...especially compared to what I used to have (Sprint).

 

[ahylianhuman]

I'm really not happy with my T-mobile service in Santa Rosa California. The signal has a really hard time penetrating buildings and I get 1000ms ping on all my speedtests, with 12mbps being the fastest down speed. What's the point of 12mpbs theoretical if my ping is 1000-1300ms? Or is there a point, let me know. I also lose service constantly in my bedroom. The network works great on the roads just everywhere else it is iffy as hell. Will be joining an AT&T family plan soon I think.

Pretty sure I have the right APN, dont see how I couldnt with 12mbps down.

I'm having the same issue here in Draper and South Jordan, Utah. Sometimes my connection drops completely, other times I have really slow speeds, often I have horrible ping. I'm definitely trying Straight Talk next month with an AT&T SIM to see if their coverage is better.

 

[Wicket]

Thing I see about HSPA+ in terms of all these speed tests is it is faster than even the national average for home internet speeds at 6.7Mbps. Global internet speeds creep back up in 2012, US lags behind South Korea, others | The Verge

So while it may not be as fast as LTE in some cases (especially on the upload side) it is still very fast and nothing to scoff at. Like many others have stated as long as you're getting around 2-3MB down you're doing good, you're also above the average for home speeds.

 

[Mellimel22]

From what I hear, Chicago is just a nightmare for every service provider. Apparently AT&T HSPA+ doesn't even work there (in the busy city areas).

If I can pull 10mb down and 1up on my sgs2 then its not so bad and vzw lte is fast also. Its only the gsm carriers that have problems where I live in Chicago ( westside)

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[digitalslacker]

I completely understand what you're talking about and for simple web surfing 2 megs is more than sufficient.

However,i download movies, videos, streaming, Skype, and i use the cloud, and it takes a lot longer on 2mb, so speed IS A MAJOR PART of the user experience.

For someone that just uses gps, web surfing and doesn't use their phone to its full potential, then yes, anything else is just extra

sent from the best smart phone (not phablet) on the worst network- the galaxy S III unfortunately on T-Mobile

I do agree that for some people the raw speed is important.

I think the larger point is that so many things on a mobile device feed into the perceived speed of the activities you do on the device. Latency, CPU speed, upstream and downstream speeds, memory usage, signal strength.

Latency to me matters more than the raw speed. When you get low ping times you notice that lag much more than you do when a 200MB file takes a few min longer to download.

I really think speed test apps are interesting but they are only a few pieces of the full picture. At the end of the day your personal perception of the device's overall speed at various tasks is really only accurate test.

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[anon62607]

As another side note in the past..couple months LTE in downtown portland has been getting kind of hit and miss in terms of speedtests during the day, and today it's sunk to new lows - I have an LTE speedtest (on Verizon) that came up lower than an EVDO speedtest (also on Verizon) run at the same time. 1.3 vs 1.5 mbps.

LTE is nice, but Verizon is deploying it on a single 10 (+10) Mhz channel. It's fast when you have that channel all to yourself, but it's really starting to get loaded now. You're much better off on a slightly slower channel where there are other channels available to pick up some of the other users.

 

[S_C_B]

I'm waiting on my T-Mobile activation kit. I shall post soon.

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[YoSaintLaurent]

I'm in Central Massachusetts. In my house I get about 3Mbps down. But once i'm away from my neighborhood I am getting 19Mbps down and 2-3Mbps up. I am quite happy!

 

[S_C_B]

I sure hoped I would get those crazy fast speeds I've been seeing in the forum, but these are pretty good. I'm in Oklahoma City in my apartment. Maybe it'll get faster when I'm out and about. I signed up for that $30 100 min/5GB 4G plan.

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[steelerfan791]

This is on 21mbps outside of Philly. Im more than pleased!

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[Freshly_Snipes]

I sure hoped I would get those crazy fast speeds I've been seeing in the forum, but these are pretty good. I'm in Oklahoma City in my apartment. Maybe it'll get faster when I'm out and about. I signed up for that $30 100 min/5GB 4G plan.

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This is on 21mbps outside of Philly. Im more than pleased!

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Those are nice. I'm in Atlanta and were 42+ here and I get the same as both of you. I've gotten up to 23 though. Better than the 2 to 4 on my HTC SENSATION. lol

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[GopherDroid]

Speed tests on my Nexus 4 in Minneapolis on T-Mobile's $30/month 100 minutes, unlimited text, 5gb of 4G (throttled after cap) plan.

 

[S_C_B]

Damn!!

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[Basscase]

Pretty happy with my speeds. Portland Oregon, T-Mobile. Certainly not 42mb but I'll take it.

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[minnemike]

Speed tests on my Nexus 4 in Minneapolis on T-Mobile's $30/month 100 minutes, unlimited text, 5gb of 4G (throttled after cap) plan.

Wooo hooo! That's what I'm looking forward to.

 

[Mac58]

My comments were specifically about that topic, my point *wasn't* about pure speed, instead about looking to see if you get decent coverage in all the areas you might want to use it. Posting 5 speedtest results, all within a minute of each other, all within one specific metro area, doesn't really give a clear picture, "so that those in the forums can make informed decisions."

Posts like these usually always give skewed results that mis-inform would-be swappers. People go outside (to get a stronger signal) and click off 4 or 5 speedtest runs in an area that gives them especially good numbers to post as "high water marks" and then cheer about the great service, but that doesn't really give a real picture of the coverage. Show the speedtest numbers obtained indoors at 7pm on a weeknight, for example, and you'll get vastly different results than those posted at 7 am on a Sunday morning.



It was a GSIII on Verizon. All the speedtests were done indoors. A number of them in the middle of large hotels.

-Suntan

You are right. Over the course of the last week of so I have been doing some comparison in speeds in VZW's LTE in my commute to school and around my town (Fort Lauderdale-Miami, Fl) to see what speeds I was getting on both my Nexus 4 and my VZW GN. I was quite happy with the results. The pictures below that have the bigger thicker black borders are all from the Nexus 4, while those without are the Gnex. Also you can tell from the LTE network that the speeds are from the GNex as well. I also will post a video posting day to day web browsing speeds and for apps that require data and how fast they load up. Hope you all enjoy, and everyone who is looking for real world uses in South Florida (Fort Lauderdal, Miami) finds this useful .
( Also I dont know why for one of the speed tests the Nexus 4 actually had a different server for the network.)



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[S_C_B]

Well, I've ventured out of the house, and here are some more speed results in Oklahoma City.

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