HTC One M8 (pretty much) Full Spec List

[Kevin OQuinn]

@n8ter: you're undervaluing marketing. You can't get the word out about your product and generate interest without marketing. Samsung is fortunate in this area because they're huge and have other BU's to support the effort should they need extra cash (in the beginning this was the case). Now their mobile business makes enough on their own to not need help. The only other company that can compete the same way is LG. Sony/HTC can't (Sony is rolling in dough and HTC only does mobile stuff).

Also, Mazda is owned by Ford.

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[Soundtrack to Chaos]

I don't like only having "disable" as an option though. I want to be able to remove apps entirely. As in I don't want TripAdvisor/FlipBoard or any of the other crap. Why can't I uninstall? Why did they have to pass a law to make Samsung allow me to remove it? I understand some of it is baked in to the ROM, but I get Titanium just to get all the Samsung garbage out. I mean, I even removed Touchwiz, as I hate it (and feel whoever said that water drop should be on for *every* press by default should be made to listen to Vogon poetry). The only things that I have on my "stock" rom that are from Samsung (apart from basic things like Browser/Settings/Messages/Phone) are Multi-Window, the notification bar (tweaked to show 8 icons because 4 is very useful...), and the PeelRemote app (Titaniumed to disable *everything* but the remote control features, don't have cable nor OTA, so I gutted 99% of it).

Just my setup, but I guess my point is I wouldn't go near a Galaxy device because I've had to do this much work just for Multi-Window and the Infra-Red Remote.

Is it Mitsubishi I was thinking of then?

Also, Ford doesn't own them , just a minority stake I believe

 

[Soundtrack to Chaos]

Just checked, I'm right

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2009/06/car-brands-who-owns-what/index.htm

 

[erwaso]

Ok, I'll talk out my rear for this one. The HTC One could have had every single feature and identical specs of the S4, along with the same type of commercials and still would not have come close to the sales and popularity of the S4.

My opinion is that it's because it's an HTC device. Their brand name is very low in the public eye. I make that statement based on the global rankings of the top companies. The closest analogy I can make within the automotive segment, is with cars like the Mazda 6 and Honda Accord. The Mazda is at a disadvantage right from the start due to its branding, regardless of the advantages it may have over its competitors.

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I've driven the new Mazda6, i'd get it over the accord. But most would buy the accord because of Ads and word of mouth. i research and test drive multiple cars before buying. Same with phones.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Just checked, I'm right http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/15/2e8a3a2a.jpg

Car Brands | Who Owns Which Cars Brands? - Consumer Reports

Ok. That's a small enough stake to share platforms and drivetrains between quite a few models. Who knows what else they share.

The point still stands. You can overcome quite a few shortcomings compared to competitors if you have good and/or aggressive marketing. Marketing in this case does also include "lobbying" the carriers to push your particular product in their stores. Even if it isn't direct payments, companies will run sales contests for the employees and give away devices to them once they sell a certain number of a particular device. I know this was very common practice 3-4 years ago (BlackBerry did it was almost every single flagship launch, and Samsung with the original Galaxy S when I worked in a store). I've heard from people that sell phones that it still is the case, but no longer have first hand knowledge of it.


Also remember that we're talking about the tech illiterate here. Most of what we're discussing doesn't apply to a lot of us directly since we'll do what we need to make sure we're making the most informed decision we can when purchasing a device.

 

[Raptor007]

Ford sold its stake in Mazda. Which was good for Mazda.

 

[ibcop]

Wow....I never knew Hyundai owned Kia....

 

[smooth4lyfe]

Nothing like a good thread derail. This topic is about the specs and people are going on about videos and marketing. There could be another thread for that.

Lol I was about to say...this thread turned from phone talk to car talk loooool

 

[Ry]

True. The iPhone was out before Samsung started creating Android phones. They were still doing Windows Mobile and some Symbian handsets and feature phones, IIRC.

Samsung didn't really start to dominate the Android landscape until they released the Galaxy S devices, and that wasn't until 2010. The real turning point was with the Galaxy SII (after the S, they had a pretty terrible reputation for Support/Updates, and TW 3.0 on the GS was... barely usable).

HTC was ahead of Samsung back then.

Maybe. Probably if we're only talking smartphone shipments. But the Samsung brand was always stronger. HTC grew out of being an ODM. Their name wasn't on everything.

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[Soundtrack to Chaos]

Lol I was about to say...this thread turned from phone talk to car talk loooool

Lol, yea sorry about this guys

 

[iN8ter]

I wouldn't say this. Sure, Sense and TW were both young and had their fair share of lag and cumbersome functionality. The difference for me was that one of them was able to work with custom roms of ICS and the other didn't fair too well or work at all with it. So in the long run, the Samsung device was the better alternative as far as bang for buck.

ICS? Lol. ICS was like 2011. I'm talking about the 2008-Early 2010 Time Frame. HTC's Windows Mobile devices were much better than Samsung's, and their earlier Android devices were far better.

By the time ICS rolled around it was already over for HTC IRT competing with Samsung. The Galaxy S2 launched with Gingerbread.

Normal users don't care about Custom ROMs and certainly did not factor that into their purchasing decisions. That only matters to people on forums and tech blogs like this, which is a very small minority if Samsung's sales are taken into account...

 

[iN8ter]

@n8ter: you're undervaluing marketing. You can't get the word out about your product and generate interest without marketing. Samsung is fortunate in this area because they're huge and have other BU's to support the effort should they need extra cash (in the beginning this was the case). Now their mobile business makes enough on their own to not need help. The only other company that can compete the same way is LG. Sony/HTC can't (Sony is rolling in dough and HTC only does mobile stuff).

Also, Mazda is owned by Ford.

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You need something to market. I'm not undervaluing marketing, I just don't think it makes as much of a difference when your brand is as recognized as Samsung and Apple. I think at this point those two are working with forward momentum, as their market share is such that they actually get a ton of free marketing simply from the proliferation of their devices. People tend to buy what's familiar and what they know others have.

But without those features in the S4, it would have been impossible for Samsung to have the type of Launch event that they had for that device, because they'd have nothing to market there. You need these differentiators so that you can appeal to the broadest base of users and have sales potential at every price point and for every type of user.

The fact that we have to disagree about the usefulness of the UltraPixel camera and how useful it is pretty much displays how much of a fail it was. By going the route they did, they put their device in a position where it isn't even an option for a lot of users. Samsung would never do that.

No amount of marketing would make that camera useful to me, because it simply doesn't allow me to do what I need to get done.

I think marketing is overvalued. Marketing is useless if your device simply does not meet the needs of the users. They mind as well should have muted the commercial or turned the TV off for its duration.

 

[Rose4uKY]

I just want to say I've had all HTC phones and my 1st smart phone was the TP2 windows mobile. I know several people who have i-phones they wouldn't have it any other way. Well I all Android and wouldn't have it any other way. I've had Every EVO made and I now own the HTC One. Yes I wish it had a removable battery but I deal with it. I usually always have a charger with me and I own an Anker battery charger which I don't need to use that often cause of there usually always being a plug. I'm actually ok now without having a memory slot. But I like Sense alot and have been happy with all most all my HTC phones. When people ask me what phone I recommend and it's usually someones preference but I always say oh the HTC One or Samsung Galaxy. I've always said that and people used to ask me all the time what phone is that that's a big screen like on my EVO's. And now I say the note is too big for me I have small hands but I think this new one is going to be awesome. I can't wait for it. Camera will be fine for me I have never printed anything out from my cell-phone just upload to FB mostly. I think the double tap to turn on sounds cool and I think it's going to be an awesome phone and maybe it will be the phone of 2014. The looks are great and the speakers that's one of it's best features.

I haven't been here in a while to this forum but right before a new phone is coming out I google and read all sites about specs and reviews and come back to a few forums. My birthday is April 9th and this phone will be a nice present for me. I get an additional 50 off at Best Buy and if I don't get a good price on Craigs List for the One I have now Best Buy's price is 135 plus my 50 so I won't be paying much at all. I'm already wanting a Seidio kickstand case. But I always say everyone like different phones and I am sure the HTC and S5 will both be great I just prefer HTC.

 

[Soundtrack to Chaos]

I just want to say I've had all HTC phones and my 1st smart phone was the TP2 windows mobile. I know several people who have i-phones they wouldn't have it any other way. Well I all Android and wouldn't have it any other way. I've had Every EVO made and I now own the HTC One. Yes I wish it had a removable battery but I deal with it. I usually always have a charger with me and I own an Anker battery charger which I don't need to use that often cause of there usually always being a plug. I'm actually ok now without having a memory slot. But I like Sense alot and have been happy with all most all my HTC phones. When people ask me what phone I recommend and it's usually someones preference but I always say oh the HTC One or Samsung Galaxy. I've always said that and people used to ask me all the time what phone is that that's a big screen like on my EVO's. And now I say the note is too big for me I have small hands but I think this new one is going to be awesome. I can't wait for it. Camera will be fine for me I have never printed anything out from my cell-phone just upload to FB mostly. I think the double tap to turn on sounds cool and I think it's going to be an awesome phone and maybe it will be the phone of 2014. The looks are great and the speakers that's one of it's best features.

I haven't been here in a while to this forum but right before a new phone is coming out I google and read all sites about specs and reviews and come back to a few forums. My birthday is April 9th and this phone will be a nice present for me. I get an additional 50 off at Best Buy and if I don't get a good price on Craigs List for the One I have now Best Buy's price is 135 plus my 50 so I won't be paying much at all. I'm already wanting a Seidio kickstand case. But I always say everyone like different phones and I am sure the HTC and S5 will both be great I just prefer HTC.

I got the additional 50$ too, will use it for the iPhone 6 or note 4

 

[anon(829886)]

I know we'll get an official answer on March 25th, but I still can't believe that HTC would put a 13 MP camera on their 2014 mid-tier flagship, the Desire 816, and keep their official flagship at 4 MP. Am I missing something here?

Also this morning I was looking into reviews of the M7 camera on photography websites. The problem appears to go beyond cropping or enlarging photos. The problem was also detail captured in photos taken in daylight outdoors. So really it goes beyond consumers who want to enlarge or crop.

EVleaks also tweeted somewhat recently that the Mini M8 is getting a 13 MP camera on the back. So maybe there is hope.

 

[Soundtrack to Chaos]

I know we'll get an official answer on March 25th, but I still can't believe that HTC would put a 13 MP camera on their 2014 mid-tier flagship, the Desire 816, and keep their official flagship at 4 MP. Am I missing something here?

Also this morning I was looking into reviews of the M7 camera on photography websites. The problem appears to go beyond cropping or enlarging photos. The problem was also detail captured in photos taken in daylight outdoors. So really it goes beyond consumers who want to enlarge or crop.

EVleaks also tweeted somewhat recently that the Mini M8 is getting a 13 MP camera on the back. So maybe there is hope.

I'm not a camera person, don't really use it unless I need a mirror, however isn't it mostly about the camera software these days and not the mp that really makes a photo?

 

[James E1]

I know we'll get an official answer on March 25th, but I still can't believe that HTC would put a 13 MP camera on their 2014 mid-tier flagship, the Desire 816, and keep their official flagship at 4 MP. Am I missing something here?

Also this morning I was looking into reviews of the M7 camera on photography websites. The problem appears to go beyond cropping or enlarging photos. The problem was also detail captured in photos taken in daylight outdoors. So really it goes beyond consumers who want to enlarge or crop.

EVleaks also tweeted somewhat recently that the Mini M8 is getting a 13 MP camera on the back. So maybe there is hope.

Just out of curiosity have you read anything on dual cameras. IMO I think they are the camera of the future. Both Toshiba and Corephotonics build one and it sound they will provide high end results from a lower mp count. Here is a link to one of my other posts that have a few links that may give you an idea of what these cameras are capable of. Its not always about pixel count.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...one-vs-galaxy-s5-htc-way-out.html#post3511386

 

[anon(829886)]

I'm not a camera person, don't really use it unless I need a mirror, however isn't it mostly about the camera software these days and not the mp that really makes a photo?

The answer is complex, but MP plays a factor for sure. It goes beyond software though. That's a given.

 

[anon(829886)]

Just out of curiosity have you read anything on dual cameras. IMO I think they are the camera of the future. Both Toshiba and Corephotonics build one and it sound they will provide high end results from a lower mp count. Here is a link to one of my other posts that have a few links that may give you an idea of what these cameras are capable of. Its not always about pixel count.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...one-vs-galaxy-s5-htc-way-out.html#post3511386

I've seen your links. I'm sure there is something to this. At the same time every review of the M7 that I read on professional camera sites mentioned how the MP count caused a lack of detail in outdoor daylight shots and the inability to crop or enlarge. Whether duo cameras eliminates these issues or eases them a bit really remains to be seen. I will say that HTC tried to play up this 'megapixel myth' angle last year and I think they were mistaken. I recently saw a video interview with Jeff Gordon, Senior Global Online Communications Manager at HTC, and he used the phrase 'megapixel myth' once again. I realize I'm jumping the gun here and our answer is 10 days away.

 

[James E1]

I've seen your links. I'm sure there is something to this. At the same time every review of the M7 that I read on professional camera sites mentioned how the MP count caused a lack of detail in outdoor daylight shots and the inability to crop or enlarge. Whether duo cameras eliminates these issues or eases them a bit really remains to be seen. I will say that HTC tried to play up this 'megapixel myth' angle last year and I think they were mistaken. I recently saw a video interview with Jeff Gordon, Senior Global Online Communications Manager at HTC, and he used the phrase 'megapixel myth' once again. I realize I'm jumping the gun here and our answer is 10 days away.

If you have optical zoom and use it before you take a picture no reason to crop. So 4mp cam with 3X optical zoom cam be better than a 13 mp cam with only 4X digital zoom every time. Now its true that if you don't use the optical zoom before the picture is taken you won't get great results if you crop. It is a new idea but it sounds like this is what they are going to have to do to make these small cameras better and more reliable plus I don't think HTC, Toshiba and Corephotonics would waste time on this if it didn't have promise. In fact Corephotonics was created just for this purpose. I for one am excited about this technology.