HTC One (M8): This is just a simple thread about the camera!

[CHILLYWILL_95831]

I'm pretty sure that tap will also change focus not just exposure.

In close, yes, landscape shots, no! In my original post, I tapped on the third bldg from the right, but as you can See in the couple walking towards me their facial features are quite clear if you expand the file. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure if the phone focuses on a tap where the landscape is broad, then no way you're able to make out facial features of someone who is 100 yards from my reference point... However, as I said before, tapping while taking a closeup can affect focus somewhat.

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[Kibbster]

In close, yes, landscape shots, no! In my original post, I tapped on the third bldg from the right, but as you can See in the couple walking towards me their facial features are quite clear if you expand the file. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure if the phone focuses on a tap where the landscape is broad, then no way you're able to make out facial features of someone who is 100 yards from my reference point... However, as I said before, tapping while taking a closeup can affect focus somewhat.

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Yes it looks like when there's nothing close to focus on it will use infinity focus so everything is in focus and it just controls exposure.
Tap to focus definitely works with items that are fairly close as well as doing the exposure.

Quite clever really.

 

[uh60james]

View attachment 112332View attachment 112328View attachment 112328I've read numerous reviews and comments about the M8 camera, and after owning the phone... I said OWNING THE PHONE... I am an old school photographer. The HTC takes great pics whether macro or landscape! If I knew how to attach pics, I'd love to post. There are two things you need to remember... The most important is to make sure your lenses are smudge free, in fact you should keep a microfiber cloth in your pocket at all times. If you have an m8 please test this for yourself. Even a one time pass over your lense with your finger will obscure your cameras ability to take great shots. The second most important thing is when in difficult lighting situations, don't allow your camera to meter the seen without your help. Make sure to tap your finger on a moderately exposed area of the frame*and watch your pic come to life! Two simple tricks for getting great pics every time! And, I'm willing to bet that the negative reviews did not shoot with a smudge free lense because it's very easy to impair the camera lenses on this phone! The cleanliness of the lense matters because of the large F stop and the minute size of the lens! There you go... Just keeping it very simple!

OK, i think i was able to post some pics. On the first pic, I let the camera meter the pic and it did not come out bad. The sky was not blue in the pic. It was hazy just as the pic shows, but had i metered the bridge on the horizon, you would see more detail in the sky as in the 2nd and 3rd pics, which are the same...OOPS!

To give some info, As you can see the pic does have high contrast and great detail, despite what reviewers are saying. I did not make any special adjustments; however, i did meter the third building on the right which is sort of the light grey bldg. I just tapped my finger on that bldg, but i did not hold my finger to lock in exp and focus...Feel free to blow it up and give opinions please. This camera is getting an awful rap!!!

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[warpdrive]

A single tap will, with out a doubt, focus on that spot and do spot metering instead of center weighted.

Your example just shows how much even f2.0 lens give way too much depth of field.... And is why we have the second lens.

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[Jdane07]

Lol downtown Napa??
Do you live here as well, or were you just visiting?

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[CHILLYWILL_95831]

Lol downtown Napa??
Do you live here as well, or were you just visiting?

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My lady loves Napa, so I have to indulge from time to time... We live in Sacramento! I wish I could live there though!

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[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Those are some pretty damn good photos!

Guess the reviews were wrong about the picture quality.

That said, it only becomes a problem when printing or outputting to a large display. (But, how many smartphone users do that, anyway?)

 

[cdaq]

That said, it only becomes a problem when printing or outputting to a large display.

UGH!!!! Will this stupid myth never die????

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

UGH!!!! Will this stupid myth never die????

Probably until the megapixel wars end, which will be never.

 

[Kibbster]

Probably until the megapixel wars end, which will be never.

Ain't that the truth.
Smartphone manufacturers have spent years using more and more megapixels as a yardstick to measure cameras against.
What HTC have done is very brave/foolhardy and unfortunately there will always be those that feed into marketing machine and will swallow whole anything it feeds to them.

The camera doesn't really need more MPs for what people use it for.
How many people crop and blow up smartphone pictures to print them out?

HTC know and that's exactly why they've chosen to go the route they have with the camera.

 

[CHILLYWILL_95831]

UGH!!!! Will this stupid myth never die????

That's why I posted so that I can put my 2? in to help end the myth! And, it's almost maddening for people to say things like it's a good camera as long as you're not creating prints or posting to a large display! That's like just saying anything! You could also say, I guess it's a good camera as long as you're not trying to make a bill board out of it! Lmao! Because we all know that when we get ready to print really great pics or post to really large displays we're going to pull out our cell phones with these tiny pinhole lenses to create the perfect masterpiece!

Here's what I'm saying, if I can shoot great pics with this phone, so can you! The pics that I've posted will print to 8x10 just fine! That's the upper limit for any 4 mega pixel camera! Now, if you're out there shooting pics to create larger prints than an 8x10, then you probably shouldn't be using a cell phone camera... Just saying!

We're just tired of the silly "what if" scenarios that 99% of us will never encounter!

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

That's why I posted so that I can put my 2? in to help end the myth! And, it's almost maddening for people to say things like it's a good camera as long as you're not creating prints or posting to a large display! That's like just saying anything! You could also say, I guess it's a good camera as long as you're not trying to make a bill board out of it! Lmao! Because we all know that when we get ready to print really great pics or post to really large displays we're going to pull out our cell phones with these tiny pinhole lenses to create the perfect masterpiece!

Here's what I'm saying, if I can shoot great pics with this phone, so can you! The pics that I've posted will print to 8x10 just fine! That's the upper limit for any 4 mega pixel camera! Now, if you're out there shooting pics to create larger prints than an 8x10, then you probably shouldn't be using a cell phone camera... Just saying!

We're just tired of the silly "what if" scenarios that 99% of us will never encounter!

Hence, the reason why I said "But, how many smartphone users do that, anyway?" after I made that statement.

I have never seen a person use a smartphone image to print for something big (aside from school assignments, where you don't need a 41MP monster), though some do output to an external display on certain occasions.

But after seeing those shots, I think the M8's camera should handle just fine.

 

[BigDinCA]

Honestly, I like the iPhone shot a little better. The colors are slightly more saturated, especially around the chair and the bricks on the ground, and it did a better job of keeping the background sharp (i.e. the leaves on the tree and that white thing on the wall). But the M8 picture looks great as well. The only issue I had with the One was the purple tint. Got that fixed and love it. Was it the best camera on a phone last year? Is the M8 camera the best this year? Nope. But the rest of the device is a winner for me in every other respect. If the camera was terrible I'd pass. But it's really good. It's not great, but I am not an iPhone guy so that isn't an option. I don't buy phones for the camera. I buy a camera for the camera.

And I've thrown pictures over to my 70" Sharp and they still look great. I've printed a ton and they look fine. I'm sure the M8 is just as good, hopefully better. I don't really crop digital photos anyway (except from my Nikon D3100) because all camera-phones "suck" in that regard. A little cropping is fine, but even with a 12MP sensor your cropped photos will be no different than using the digital zoom when you take the shot, which just makes everything look terrible anyway.

 

[josh6113]

How about we talk about how great the 5mp front shooter is...

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[CHILLYWILL_95831]

How about we talk about how great the 5mp front shooter is...��

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I don't really do a lot of selfie shots, but I think HTC is so far ahead of the curve with the 5mp front shooter that the only thing reviewers know to do is somehow turn it into another camera negative for the HTC M8 by saying things like " we just don't get why HTC chose to have a higher MP front shooter than rear." When, in actuality, the rear shooter garners much better resolution, color balance and overall pic quality than the amazing front shooter. Until Apple and Sammy catch up, the front shooter doesn't matter. It's a shame but true! But, what i will give is a couple more real life shots of the UFocus in action and you guys tell me if it's gimmick or a must have feature? Enjoy! And please feel free to drop some of your own shots! Let's keep hope alive for HTC We all know we have a pretty awesome phone, so let's get it out there. We have to advertise for them...LOL! You know they only have about a $25.00 advertising budget. And, just to make it clear, the first pic of the pretty lady was metered and focused for her and the purpose of creating the Bokeh, so the trees in the background will not and should not be sharply detailed as this was a rather closeup shot.

 

[for3nsicguy]

One additional bonus to the 4up camera that no one seems to be mentioning is the file size of the photos. I have been very satisfied with the quality of the photos I am getting from the M8's camera. The detail is excellent and the images are crisp, clear, and accurate.

Compare the photo quality of the M8's 4up against an 8mp, 13mp, or 20mp camera on other devices; then compare the size of the files created by those higher mp cameras. Instead of 1-2mb files you are storing 4-7mb files. That difference starts to become a big deal in a hurry if you take a lot of photos.

I'll take the excellent 4mp shots I get from my M8 over 20mp shots that are only slightly more detailed and take up 4-5 times more storage space.

Bits and Bytes from my HTC One M8

 

[SCjRqrQCnBQ19QoYCtdl]

Ain't that the truth.
Smartphone manufacturers have spent years using more and more megapixels as a yardstick to measure cameras against.
What HTC have done is very brave/foolhardy and unfortunately there will always be those that feed into marketing machine and will swallow whole anything it feeds to them.

The camera doesn't really need more MPs for what people use it for.
How many people crop and blow up smartphone pictures to print them out?

HTC know and that's exactly why they've chosen to go the route they have with the camera.

More mega pixels = slower camera too.

 

[SCjRqrQCnBQ19QoYCtdl]

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I don't really do a lot of selfie shots, but I think HTC is so far ahead of the curve with the 5mp front shooter that the only thing reviewers know to do is somehow turn it into another camera negative for the HTC M8 by saying things like " we just don't get why HTC chose to have a higher MP front shooter than rear." When, in actuality, the rear shooter garners much better resolution, color balance and overall pic quality than the amazing front shooter. Until Apple and Sammy catch up, the front shooter doesn't matter. It's a shame but true! But, what i will give is a couple more real life shots of the UFocus in action and you guys tell me if it's gimmick or a must have feature? Enjoy! And please feel free to drop some of your own shots! Let's keep hope alive for HTC We all know we have a pretty awesome phone, so let's get it out there. We have to advertise for them...LOL! You know they only have about a $25.00 advertising budget. And, just to make it clear, the first pic of the pretty lady was metered and focused for her and the purpose of creating the Bokeh, so the trees in the background will not and should not be sharply detailed as this was a rather closeup shot.

I think the uFocus feature is killer from what I have seen. I have the m7 and love it, but wish I had the uFocus feature. The only think I am disappointed in is the lack of OIS on the M8 vs. the M7.

 

[SCjRqrQCnBQ19QoYCtdl]

Honestly, I like the iPhone shot a little better. The colors are slightly more saturated, especially around the chair and the bricks on the ground, and it did a better job of keeping the background sharp (i.e. the leaves on the tree and that white thing on the wall). But the M8 picture looks great as well. The only issue I had with the One was the purple tint. Got that fixed and love it. Was it the best camera on a phone last year? Is the M8 camera the best this year? Nope. But the rest of the device is a winner for me in every other respect. If the camera was terrible I'd pass. But it's really good. It's not great, but I am not an iPhone guy so that isn't an option. I don't buy phones for the camera. I buy a camera for the camera.

And I've thrown pictures over to my 70" Sharp and they still look great. I've printed a ton and they look fine. I'm sure the M8 is just as good, hopefully better. I don't really crop digital photos anyway (except from my Nikon D3100) because all camera-phones "suck" in that regard. A little cropping is fine, but even with a 12MP sensor your cropped photos will be no different than using the digital zoom when you take the shot, which just makes everything look terrible anyway.

I don't understand this comment. How can you look at those two pictures and think the iPhone is more saturated? My impression was the colors on the M8 shot were OVER saturated, and maybe it would look better with the saturation dialed down a bit.

 

[CHILLYWILL_95831]

I think the uFocus feature is killer from what I have seen. I have the m7 and love it, but wish I had the uFocus feature. The only think I am disappointed in is the lack of OIS on the M8 vs. the M7.

I think i would have to agree! I'm not big on video and i think it makes the biggest difference when shooting video... Looks like "we have half a dozen in one hand and 6 in the other!"