HTC One = Total Fail?

You're wrong. There's no sugar coating it. If they weren't a tiny percentage of users, then there wouldn't be 200 million iPhones in the wild. Consumers at large just don't care, point blank.

Please feel free to provide data to back that up.
 
You're wrong. There's no sugar coating it. If they weren't a tiny percentage of users, then there wouldn't be 200 million iPhones in the wild. Consumers at large just don't care, point blank.

True fact. I've yet to meet a single person who carries around extra removable batteries with them.

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Honestly a removable battery on a phone should be common sense...I mean why would anyone want the battery stuck in the phone, and if something happens they are pretty much ****ed...Some people may say they dont need a removable battery, but they can just leave it in there, but a non removeable battery is pretty dumb to me

I think companies do that so just in case the phone messes up, they are forced to send it in a pay for repairs...I am pretty sure thats why Apple does it

I have been treated very well by Apple. I don't have an Iphone, but I do have an Apple laptop. it has been dropped, sat on, and spilled on. They have replaced the casing around the keys (twice) for free. They have replace the magnetic charger for free. It is now 6 years old, and I feel that I have gotten my moneys worth. I don't ever plan to get an Iphone, but I'm sure they would be just as generous if something went wrong within a reasonable time.
 
True fact. I've yet to meet a single person who carries around extra removable batteries with them.

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How would you know? I carry a spare battery in my briefcase, but there is not a sign on me or my briefcase indicating as much.

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I disagree. It's not that iPhone users don't care. It's that they don't know any better.

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Then explain why there is a not insignificant number of android users that switch to the iPhone.

Sorry guys, the market does not support your point of view. Customers just don't care about a removable battery or sd card slot.

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Then explain why there is a not insignificant number of android users that switch to the iPhone.

I don't understand this. Android's market share grows every year. This is no doubt due, in part, to the added flexibility and utility of Android phones, including removable batteries. As far as those that switch to iPhone - half of them probably don't even know their phone is powered by a battery. There will always be outliers.

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I don't understand this. Android's market share grows every year. This is no doubt due, in part, to the added flexibility and utility of Android phones, including removable batteries. As far as those that switch to iPhone - half of them probably don't even know their phone is powered by a battery. There will always be outliers.

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Androids market share is growing because there are significantly more android models than there are iPhone models. Things like the removable battery are not a factor for the bulk of users. (things like sales people being paid to push android models also has an effect)

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As far as those that switch to iPhone - half of them probably don't even know their phone is powered by a battery. There will always be outliers.

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Gotta say, with this and additionally many other things you've written, I think irrefutable is a strong word.
 
You're wrong. There's no sugar coating it. If they weren't a tiny percentage of users, then there wouldn't be 200 million iPhones in the wild. Consumers at large just don't care, point blank.

It's not that they don't care, its more that its not the most important to them, BUT I am pretty sure most people would prefer the option of a removable battery when asked
 
It's not that they don't care, its more that its not the most important to them, BUT I am pretty sure most people would prefer the option of a removable battery when asked

If the phone stayed exactly the same but had a removable battery I think people would rather have the option. The issue is that the phone design would have to change.
 
If the phone stayed exactly the same but had a removable battery I think people would rather have the option. The issue is that the phone design would have to change.

I think it is generally recognized that HTC has some of the nicest hardware and styling in the industry, but don't most people put a case on it anyway? Once the case is on, the hardware is largely or wholey obscured.

I've always thought this was the great irony of the Ipad. They spent so much attention on making it sleek that the device can't be comfortably held without a case. So everybody gets a case and covers the sleek design. It is completely self defeating.

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I think it is generally recognized that HTC has some of the nicest hardware and styling in the industry, but don't most people put a case on it anyway? Once the case is on, the hardware is largely or wholey obscured.

I've always thought this was the great irony of the Ipad. They spent so much attention on making it sleek that the device can't be comfortably held without a case. So everybody gets a case and covers the sleek design. It is completely self defeating.

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I agree completely, but I don't use cases on my phones, so styling/hardware feel is a larger part of my considerations for a device.
 
How would you know? I carry a spare battery in my briefcase, but there is not a sign on me or my briefcase indicating as much.

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Because, as a phone nerd, I talk to the people I know about their phones. I'm not just eying their pockets and taking a wild guess.

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Yeah Air View is great. Anyone that owns a Note 2 knows that. It can really help you find things fast and you don't have to hold the Note 2 to close to you're face when trying to find a good picture or document.

Imho the HTC One will be great. The S4 is nice but the Note 2 already out does it. I love my Note 2 and I can't wait to see what they do with the Note 3.

Other then that the Note 2 is the first phone I've owned that haven't got bored with in the first few months. It's also the first phone I've owned that allows me to not care so much about getting the next newest device that comes out. I could really live with my Note 2 for the full 2 year contract. I've never been able to do that with my older phones.

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My girlfriend wanted the iPhone 5 after seeing with everyone at her workplace! Convinced (bullied) her to get the HTC one which she got yesterday! Every iPhone user wants one and pretty happy that I convinced her to get it. In my opinion its the best phone that I have ever seen or touched! Removable battery is of no concern this thing will blow you away you just need it in your hands to appreciate it! HTC one FTW

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If the phone stayed exactly the same but had a removable battery I think people would rather have the option. The issue is that the phone design would have to change.
I doubt it would be a dramatic change..maybe a bit wider or longer...they can still keep the curved back
 
I plan to get an HTC ONE. It is beautiful. That being said, there are several non-facts being tossed around this thread and others as if they were facts, and I would like to address them.

1. A camera's megapixel count means nothing? Wrong. Now, they don't by themselves dictate picture quality, this much is true. But implying they aren't a factor in an image is silly. Different people, depending upon their photography goals, will weight it as a desirable factor differently in their choice. They may weight other factors more importantly. But it does mean something and it does have value.

2. Removable batteries and /or SD cards are useless and the majority of people don't care? Wrong, and maybe, respectively. They aren't useless. Maybe they're useless to you, and that's fine, but they're usable to somebody else. Suggesting that iPhone sales proves most people don't care is a big leap. Maybe they just decided other features were more important to them.

3. An aluminum uni-body is automatically stronger than other designs? Maybe, maybe not. There are a huge number of factors that will determine the physical strength of a part. What alloy is that aluminum? How thick is it? If it's thin, what internal features such as ribbing, gussets, etc. have been designed in to provide strength/rigidity? Where are those features located? In the drop test video I watched (yes, I know it's lame and unscientific but that doesn't affect my point) I get the impression that on the HTC ONE the aluminum is nothing more than a thin veneer glued around the guts of the phone. Coke cans aren't very strong. Now I'm not saying the ONE is a coke can. The image on this page Design overview of the HTC One in an interview with Scott Croyle VP of Design | HTC Source give the impression of strength at least. But that image also suggests the speaker grills are one piece with the rest of the chassis. It turns out they are just glued onto the black plastic guts and can pop off if the edge is hit right. And the ease with which it dents/buckles suggests that I at least would prefer it be a bit more robust. Also a tear-down article suggests the sides bend very easily with gentle prying. Now it may be fine; I'm only making the point that aluminum/uni-body doesn't automatically make for a strong, durable product. Totally depends on the engineering.

4. Removable batteries are impossible in an aluminum and/or uni-body form? Wrong. My car has an aluminum uni-body and the battery is replaceable. Okay that doesn't prove anything, but hear me out. I can imagine a few designs off the top of my head that would do it. The word uni-body doesn't by definition preclude doors or openings. Or the whole, entire uni-body shell could be removable if you want to stick with no seams. Or heck, the screen could hinge up out of the way! Sorry, just brainstorming here. Anyway, sure there might be design trade-offs, but saying it's flat impossible is wrong.

I might become an HTC fanboy, or at at least a ONE fanboy, soon. I'm not going to decide for sure until I hold it in my hand. If I do, I don't want some of you on my side if you can't defend your choice without logical, well thought out points. The S4 appears to be a great device. Now it's perfectly fine for you to dislike things about it, but bashing it without logic doesn't make you look smart.
 
A metal back is different than an entirely metal phone.

Getting rid of the unibody would be idiotic. It creates a much more durable and high quality device that will be less prone to damage and common pitfalls of devices like Samsung's.

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Durable and high quality yet dents so easily?

Samsung phones are more durable, they drop, but no damage to the body.

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