I don't know if this illegal, but at best, it's unethical.

[dpham00]

The more lines you add to a family plan, the more affordable each person's stake is - presuming you divide the cost equally. That is, after all, the whole point of them.

Not on the Verizon share Everything plan for me at least , you are paying $30 per dumb phone line, $40 smartphone line. For those who use few minutes like me, the Share Everything Plan is a rip, considering I pay under $45 with unlimited unthrottled 4glte. On share everything, it is $40 for voice alone, then you gotta factor in data.

My basic lines are running about $20 per line (once the costs are divided out) on the family share plan.

The data does get shared, but 60gb for my line alone would cost a lot more than the $24 per month for unlimited unthrottled 4glte

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[dchawk81]

Not on the Verizon share Everything plan for me at least , you are paying $30 per dumb phone line, $40 smartphone line. For those who use few minutes like me, the Share Everything Plan is a rip, considering I pay under $45 with unlimited unthrottled 4glte. On share everything, it is $40 for voice alone, then you gotta factor in data.

My basic lines are running about $20 per line (once the costs are divided out) on the family share plan.

The data does get shared, but 60gb for my line alone would cost a lot more than the $24 per month for unlimited unthrottled 4glte

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I don't understand your logic. In one sentence you say you don't save any money on a family plan and in another you say the same data would cost you a lot more if you went it alone.

Again, it's clear that family plans save money over individual ones. They always do. They're meant to. That's their purpose.

 

[androidluvr2]

I don't understand your logic. In one sentence you say you don't save any money on a family plan and in another you say the same data would cost you a lot more if you went it alone.

He was comparing apples to oranges. His plan is not a Share Everything plan. He is on a Nationwide Talk and Text Family Share plan (I know, the names are confusing), and on that plan you do save money if you add more lines. Verizon no longer offers those plans. Now Verizon only offers the Share Everything plans and on the Share Everything plans, you don't save any money by adding a line.

 

[dpham00]

He was comparing apples to oranges. His plan is not a Share Everything plan. He is on a Nationwide Talk and Text Family Share plan (I know, the names are confusing), and on that plan you do save money if you add more lines. Verizon no longer offers those plans. Now Verizon only offers the Share Everything plans and on the Share Everything plans, you don't save any money by adding a line.

Correct. Not all family share plans save money voice and text wise. The Verizon share everything has a fixed $30 fee for dumb phone, $40 for smartphones. Only Data is shared. Let's say you have one smartphone with 1gb data. That would be $90. Add 1, 2,3, or even 9 dumb phones and the cost of each dumb phone is $30
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[dchawk81]

I'm talking about when you compare available plans with other available plans. It makes no sense to compare things that can no longer be obtained.

 

[dpham00]

I'm talking about when you compare available plans with other available plans. It makes no sense to compare things that can no longer be obtained.

The Verizon family share plan and unlimited unthrottled 4glte can still be obtained, it is just more difficult to do so.

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[androidluvr2]

The Verizon family share plan and unlimited unthrottled 4glte can still be obtained, it is just more difficult to do so.

You can't get that plan from Verizon anymore. The only way to get it is to buy someone else's account off of ebay and assume liability for it.

If you already have it, you can keep it and so far at least they are letting you add lines to an existing family share plan.

 

[dpham00]

You can't get that plan from Verizon anymore. The only way to get it is to buy someone else's account off of ebay and assume liability for it.

If you already have it, you can keep it and so far at least they are letting you add lines to an existing family share plan.

Correct, hence why I said more difficult, but can be obtained.

You do not necessarily have to buy from eBay, you can get it from a friend or family member should they decide to switch carriers or whatever. I have personally done it, when someone gave me a Verizon family account, and can verify that it does not cost a cent on Verizon's end.

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[androidluvr2]

Correct, hence why I said more difficult, but can be obtained.

You do not necessarily have to buy from eBay, you can get it from a friend or family member should they decide to switch carriers or whatever. I have personally done it, when someone gave me a Verizon family account, and can verify that it does not cost a cent on Verizon's end.

I am surprised that they don't sell for more on eBay. If you live somewhere that has a strong 4G LTE signal, you can get rid of your home internet and just tether to your phone and save a bunch of money.

 

[Unicorn Rancher]

I'm talking about when you compare available plans with other available plans. It makes no sense to compare things that can no longer be obtained.

You can only get them on the secondary market. Kind of like a Straight Talk SIM for the AT&T network, apparently.

 

[dpham00]

I am surprised that they don't sell for more on eBay. If you live somewhere that has a strong 4G LTE signal, you can get rid of your home internet and just tether to your phone and save a bunch of money.

True, it again comes down to convenience and what hassles you are willing to deal with. If i were living alone, I would do it, but living with a family, it is inconvenient.

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[dpham00]

You can only get them on the secondary market. Kind of like a Straight Talk SIM for the AT&T network, apparently.

True, and the straight talk sim is cheaper than buying a Verizon unlimited unthrottled 4glte account. Of course, Verizon won't disconnect you if you hit 2-3gb,otherwise, they would have disconnected me long before I hit 60gb

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[androidluvr2]

True, it again comes down to convenience and what hassles you are willing to deal with. If i were living alone, I would do it, but living with a family, it is inconvenient.

yeah, everyone in the family would have to have an unlimited data plan for it to be viable.

 

[dchawk81]

The Verizon family share plan and unlimited unthrottled 4glte can still be obtained, it is just more difficult to do so.

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Yes, there are schemes. But let's be real about it...very few people want to go those less than above board routes. They're as knowledgeable and keen on those methods as they are hackery to get out of paying for texting or talk minutes.

Most people, including myself these days, don't really want to fight the system and deal with the problems that arise from it. We have jobs and families and other things that we'd rather spend our time on.

 

[dchawk81]

yeah, everyone in the family would have to have an unlimited data plan for it to be viable.

AND be willing to tolerate the inconvenience. People don't realize how easy and convenient life is with a perpetually available hotspot in the house until they don't have one. Yes, it's a first world problem but starting and stopping a phone hotspot app then pairing up gets old after awhile, especially when the phone needs to stay plugged in for extended usage and as a result can get quite hot. And of course once you have it anchored to a wall outlet, you're not so portable anymore.

Believe me, I've done the workarounds. I've tried almost all of them. I no longer do the workarounds.

 

[androidluvr2]

starting and stopping a phone hotspot app then pairing up gets old after awhile, especially when the phone needs to stay plugged in for extended usage and as a result can get quite hot. And of course once you have it anchored to a wall outlet, you're not so portable anymore.

On my unlocked and rooted GNex, I use switch pro widget and have a widget on my home screen that all I do is tap and it gives me WiFi tether and my laptop will connect to it automatically without me having to do anything, but yeah, it eats up my battery and the phone gets hot!

I just HATE comcast more than I hate Verizon and my DSL is max 4Mbps download speeds where I live. Comcast has more of a monopoly where I live than Verizon does and they are such b-tards that I would rather have sucky DSL speeds than give them a dime. If it weren't for my extremely tech unsavvy mother who lives with me I would get rid of the DSL, too and use my phone, though.

 

[jdbii]

.......my DSL is max 4Mbps download speeds where I live.

Ouch. How do you manage. Is that even fast enough for Netflix?

 

[androidluvr2]

Ouch. How do you manage. Is that even fast enough for Netflix?

No, its not. If we want to watch Netflix we have to connect to the internet via our phones.

 

[dpham00]

Yes, there are schemes. But let's be real about it...very few people want to go those less than above board routes. They're as knowledgeable and keen on those methods as they are hackery to get out of paying for texting or talk minutes.

Most people, including myself these days, don't really want to fight the system and deal with the problems that arise from it. We have jobs and families and other things that we'd rather spend our time on.

Absolutely, if you want the easy way, you gotta pay for it. Having 5 lines of service is quite costly if I went the unlimited everything route, especially when you are on a budget. I would rather make a few compromises to save what to me is a substantial sum of money while still on the network with the best coverage and unlimited unthrottled 4glte. I understand that everyone has different things which they are willing to sacrifice. Unless you are rich, you have to make the decision which is best for you.

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[dchawk81]

On my unlocked and rooted GNex, I use switch pro widget and have a widget on my home screen that all I do is tap and it gives me WiFi tether and my laptop will connect to it automatically without me having to do anything, but yeah, it eats up my battery and the phone gets hot!

I just HATE comcast more than I hate Verizon and my DSL is max 4Mbps download speeds where I live. Comcast has more of a monopoly where I live than Verizon does and they are such b-tards that I would rather have sucky DSL speeds than give them a dime. If it weren't for my extremely tech unsavvy mother who lives with me I would get rid of the DSL, too and use my phone, though.

Yes but even that "easy" connection process itself gets old after awhile, if you use it a lot. Compared to a laptop that's just on and the internet being just connected. I've been there, believe me.

Granted, I come from the business perspective of time lost being money lost. However, most people don't like inconvenience AT ALL. They'll pay to reduce or eliminate it, and I'm becoming one of those people as the years go by.

I don't think anyone likes Comcast though, by the way. That's who I'm stuck with, but it's far better than turning on my phone's hotspot constantly.