I feckin knew it ......

[TheBiggestLie]

So:
Last night I took a screenshot before I went to bed. On waking up, it looked like it had dropped 1% per hour. Probably not bad for you lot, but I'm certain this was better on my iPhones.

I have medium signal over that period, with DS battery saver set to gentle (data and wifi set to wake every 30mins for a minute).

Mail, weather, blinkfeed and in fact almost everything set to manual fetch - although funnily enough I still get some mail pushed through the HTC app notifications, I'm certainly not fetching it! Just Line and whatsapp are let through

I've run wakelock detector and there's not much going on, mainly line and a bit of google maps (not sure why that's wakelocking, I assume that's normal).

The phone will still last a couple of days on light to moderate usage, but it is a little disappointing the amount lost in standby. I'll turn power saver on next to see how much that helps

 

[bjb_nyj101]

I find it hard to understand how losing 10% in 6hrs is a problem.... That's less than 2% an hour...

 

[SenseMonkey]

10% in 6 hours is a problem?

Not here trying to say is bad but my old htc one x+ only drained 4% in 10Hrs. :thumbup: Then again it had the extra specialized chip for standby time ; the s4 600 chip is great just maybe not on part with Nvidias tegra 3 or 4 chips standby. Samsung's Exynos 4 quad was pretty good in standby too.

Courtesy of My LT3VO

 

[LegalAmerican]

I disagree, it's all about the user experience. This is one thing that Apple gets better than any other company out there. I don't care about the reasoning behind it I just want a phone that will get through the day without dying and I shouldn't have to reduce the usefulness of some of the coolest features just to get there. I don't really have that issue with the One, but I certainly have to pay more attention to battery life and have had to start using NFC tags in my car/office/home to change settings to maximize battery life. The end user shouldn't have to worry so much about every little thing just to make the device function.

Yes I get that I have a larger screen and LTE and those things eat battery faster, but that isn't my fault. HTC knew what they were putting into this phone and if they knew that the average user was going to have issues with battery performance then they might have considered a larger battery.

I'm not disappointed in the device or even the battery performance, I'll adjust. But it's another thing occupying my highly limited mental bandwidth.

You disagree? There's nothing to disagree with. One phone had capabilities that the other didn't have, and that changes battery usage. It's a fact, it's not whether or not you "agree". Everyone in the smartphone realm understands that a phone with LTE can't be compared to one without. At least not in a sensible way. My old Nokia got WAY better battery life than my current phone. I could go over a week without charging. But what good does it do to compare? One phone is a pocket computer, and the other did nothing except the most basic functions.

I get what you're saying about "not having to minimize the features to save battery", but that's why you have to do your homework when buying a phone. Right now the phone to go for if you don't want any battery issues, would be the Note 2 or the Razr Maxx HD. OR, you could always go back to the 4s but then you'll be left in the past until phone manufacturers are able to save battery even on 4G. And then of course, you need to be sure you live in an area that has strong signal all the time. Otherwise that will also kill the battery. And even if you do all those things, the bigger screen will still cause battery drain that the miniscule iPhone would not have experienced.

 

[adriandb]

You disagree?

Yes.

There's nothing to disagree with.

Sure there is.

One phone had capabilities that the other didn't have, and that changes battery usage. It's a fact, it's not whether or not you "agree". Everyone in the smartphone realm understands that a phone with LTE can't be compared to one without. At least not in a sensible way. My old Nokia got WAY better battery life than my current phone. I could go over a week without charging. But what good does it do to compare? One phone is a pocket computer, and the other did nothing except the most basic functions.

You can look at it that way if you want, but that isn't what I'm talking about. I'm comparing the user experience of two smartphones. One had great battery life the other is average. The specifics of what is causing the battery drain shouldn't really matter to the end user and they shouldn't have to reduce the functionality of their devices just to get better battery life.

 

[SteveISU]

Unless you're nocturnal or a Vampire just plug the thing in while your sleeping.

 

[Viva Terlingua]

You guys are scaring me. I just ordered an unlocked HTC One. I'm already a little concerned about how much time it's going to take me to set it up. But poor battery life will cause me to send it back. Maybe I'm spoiled by my iPhone 4, but I just never really worry about battery life, especially if I'm not using it much. Last night I checked my phone an I had logged 14 hours and 43 minutes of standby time and 1 hour and 23 minutes of usage. I still had 82% of battery left and that is on a two and a half year old phone and battery. Sounds like I'm dreaming if expect anywhere near this on the One.

 

[Led Zappa]

Yes.


Sure there is.


You can look at it that way if you want, but that isn't what I'm talking about. I'm comparing the user experience of two smartphones. One had great battery life the other is average. The specifics of what is causing the battery drain shouldn't really matter to the end user and they shouldn't have to reduce the functionality of their devices just to get better battery life.

So, what would your choice be? Faster speeds and shorter battery life or Slower speeds and longer battery life? That is the choice in your argument. If you don't care about LTE one way or another I guess your argument might make sense. As it stands, it doesn't, since LTE is a fairly important feature and is important to the user experience.

 

[TheBiggestLie]

You disagree? There's nothing to disagree with. One phone had capabilities that the other didn't have, and that changes battery usage. It's a fact, it's not whether or not you "agree". Everyone in the smartphone realm understands that a phone with LTE can't be compared to one without. At least not in a sensible way. My old Nokia got WAY better battery life than my current phone. I could go over a week without charging. But what good does it do to compare? One phone is a pocket computer, and the other did nothing except the most basic functions.

I get what you're saying about "not having to minimize the features to save battery", but that's why you have to do your homework when buying a phone. Right now the phone to go for if you don't want any battery issues, would be the Note 2 or the Razr Maxx HD. OR, you could always go back to the 4s but then you'll be left in the past until phone manufacturers are able to save battery even on 4G. And then of course, you need to be sure you live in an area that has strong signal all the time. Otherwise that will also kill the battery. And even if you do all those things, the bigger screen will still cause battery drain that the miniscule iPhone would not have experienced.

I'd point out I'm in the UK running 3g, exactly like my iPhone 4 with minimal widgets. There is no doubt in my mind that android is the better experience, but the iPhone certainly sets a higher expectation in terms of battery life. I would hope that in standby I would have at least equivalent behavior and that I shouldn't have to work around it.

 

[vbockius]

You guys are scaring me. I just ordered an unlocked HTC One. I'm already a little concerned about how much time it's going to take me to set it up. But poor battery life will cause me to send it back. Maybe I'm spoiled by my iPhone 4, but I just never really worry about battery life, especially if I'm not using it much. Last night I checked my phone an I had logged 14 hours and 43 minutes of standby time and 1 hour and 23 minutes of usage. I still had 82% of battery left and that is on a two and a half year old phone and battery. Sounds like I'm dreaming if expect anywhere near this on the One.

You ARE going to be trading some of that battery life for features.....If you live in the desert with no power outlets for days at a time you may be in trouble....lol just kidding....you will have to change your thinking a little in keeping the battery charged, you'll get used to it in no time

 

[TheBiggestLie]

You guys are scaring me. I just ordered an unlocked HTC One. I'm already a little concerned about how much time it's going to take me to set it up. But poor battery life will cause me to send it back. Maybe I'm spoiled by my iPhone 4, but I just never really worry about battery life, especially if I'm not using it much. Last night I checked my phone an I had logged 14 hours and 43 minutes of standby time and 1 hour and 23 minutes of usage. I still had 82% of battery left and that is on a two and a half year old phone and battery. Sounds like I'm dreaming if expect anywhere near this on the One.

Yeah, that was me. I think in terms of battery, you're going to be a little disappointed like me. I assume this is probably the same with any Android phone. But not disappointed enough in terms of the upsides of the phone elsewere (i.e. user experience). It should still last you the day, just need to change behaviour to charge more regularly.

 

[Led Zappa]

You guys are scaring me. I just ordered an unlocked HTC One. I'm already a little concerned about how much time it's going to take me to set it up. But poor battery life will cause me to send it back. Maybe I'm spoiled by my iPhone 4, but I just never really worry about battery life, especially if I'm not using it much. Last night I checked my phone an I had logged 14 hours and 43 minutes of standby time and 1 hour and 23 minutes of usage. I still had 82% of battery left and that is on a two and a half year old phone and battery. Sounds like I'm dreaming if expect anywhere near this on the One.

If you can't be bothered to keep an eye on your battery and plug it in at least once a day then you should probably send the One back. It doesn't sound like you'll get the most out of it anyways.

 

[adriandb]

So, what would your choice be? Faster speeds and shorter battery life or Slower speeds and longer battery life? That is the choice in your argument. If you don't care about LTE one way or another I guess your argument might make sense. As it stands, it doesn't, since LTE is a fairly important feature and is important to the user experience.

Honestly I don't know how much of an impact LTE has had on my life. Does it improve my ability to stream music? Nope. Videos? Barely, and I rarely do this.

 

[Viva Terlingua]

You ARE going to be trading some of that battery life for features.....If you live in the desert with no power outlets for days at a time you may be in trouble....lol just kidding....you will have to change your thinking a little in keeping the battery charged, you'll get used to it in no time

I did go on a 4 day hiking trip a couple of months ago and brought my phone to use the GPS functions and record our hiking. GPS was on about 10 hours a day, the rest of the time it was in airplane mode. I was able to get by with a fully charged phone and an 8400 mAh battery pack.

 

[adriandb]

I did go on a 4 day hiking trip a couple of months ago and brought my phone to use the GPS functions and record our hiking. GPS was on about 10 hours a day, the rest of the time it was in airplane mode. I was able to get by with a fully charged phone and an 8400 mAh battery pack.

I hate suggesting this, but a dedicated GPS device may make more sense there.

 

[Viva Terlingua]

I hate suggesting this, but a dedicated GPS device may make more sense there.

I have a Garmin GPS but I quit using it a couple of years ago. The screen on the iPhone blows it away and the iPhone is also more user friendly.

 

[LegalAmerican]

You can look at it that way if you want, but that isn't what I'm talking about. I'm comparing the user experience of two smartphones. One had great battery life the other is average. The specifics of what is causing the battery drain shouldn't really matter to the end user and they shouldn't have to reduce the functionality of their devices just to get better battery life.

If the specifics of what is causing the battery drain shouldn't matter, then by that logic the specifics of why you buy a phone shouldn't either. So why don't you have an old style basic flip phone? Specifics of a phone ALWAYS matter. Like I said before, you CAN make the comparison, but it's completely pointless and adds nothing to the discussion. Because you're comparing two devices that are completely different in every meaningful way. My iPod Classic got WAY better battery life than my current smartphone, so if we're using your logic, shame on smartphone companies for not making their batteries as effective as a device that doesn't even function in the same way. I wont even mention how ridiculous it is that my Remote Control car doesn't go as fast as my Ram 1500.

 

[LegalAmerican]

I assume this is probably the same with any Android phone.

Nope. Try the Razr Maxx, Razr Maxx HD or the Note 2. It's not the same, it depends on a few factors. You just have to take the time to look into it.

 

[LegalAmerican]

I'd point out I'm in the UK running 3g, exactly like my iPhone 4 with minimal widgets. There is no doubt in my mind that android is the better experience, but the iPhone certainly sets a higher expectation in terms of battery life. I would hope that in standby I would have at least equivalent behavior and that I shouldn't have to work around it.

Again, whether you're in the UK, the US, or on the moon a bigger screen will use more battery than a tiny 3.5". It isn't just in regards to 4G/3G. You're right, you shouldn't HAVE to work around it. I COMPLETELY agree which is why I bought the Razr Maxx when it came out. However, all manufacturers also shouldn't HAVE to design and develop an entire phone line around the people who are super power users who will tear through almost any phone's battery in a day. If you're in that group (I am) you have alternate options to meet your needs. Extra batteries, charging cables, or extended batteries. Also I should say, I would take the better user experience and slightly worse battery, then a boring experience and fantastic battery that will keep me bored for hours and hours.

 

[MrSmith317]

Surprised I haven't seen this suggested yet. If your phone drops too much while you're not using it (at night), maybe try turning it off. I only charge my phone at night if I can help it just so that I'm never tethered to my desk or wherever it's plugged in during the day. Either put the phone in airplane mode or turn it off. either way it shouldn't drop more battery than what you're already seeing.