I got an Android, but want to go back to the iPhone. Why is this?

[timetry]

I use a Samsung Note II but have kept my old (old 3Gs) iPhone. Both seem to have advantages and disadvantages. The iPhone apps, probably being simpler to design for a single platform, seem more robust, cheaper and better value overall (I can't say the same for apps on a MacBook). There's no worry about viruses or 3rd party threats - you only have the one antagonist to put up with and that's Apple. My main reason for getting an Android was Apple's aggressive monetization of accessories, such as new non-standard cables and plugs at exhorbitant prices. The lack of features compared to Androids is also offputting.

The Android is infinitely more tweakable and customisable and seems more innovative right now than iPhones. But many of the niggles are similar to using a PC vs an Apple computer. You can avoid using iTunes with an iPhone, but the general message is, do it the Apple way or it's gonna cost you time and money. With Android, we are becoming increasingly screwed by Google, so they might end up the same; but just now there seems to be more choice, more opennesd and more compatibility with Android.

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[A895]

There's no worry about viruses or 3rd party threats

Same with Android. Never worry a day about viruses and malware.

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[Aquila]

Same with Android. Never worry a day about viruses and malware.

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If you invite them, they're easy to find in both OS's. If you do not seek them, they're absent in both.

Nexus. Through spacetime.

 

[A895]

If you invite them, they're easy to find in both OS's. If you do not seek them, they're absent in both.

Nexus. Through spacetime.

Then again that could go for any OS. The best way would be to avoid ad heavy porn sites on any smartphone or desktop OS.

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[Farish]

Your source is talking about a flaw specific to browsers only. And even then, it is not an OS level flaw. It is a leak, not a gaping hole. Disabling javascript or simply not using browsers would make you completely immune to that vulnerability.

This is from your own link:
?It should be understood that the required situation for a potential breach includes multiple sets of conditions that are extremely unlikely to occur at the same time and that the real potential risk is minimal, at best,? Davies said.

That is certainly not comparable to this iOS flaw IMO.

If it is part of the Android api, it is part of the OS.

Turn off Javascript and you turn off every functioning website.




Lets even go farther over the last few days of what has been posted in the public.


Android is target for 98 percent of all mobile malware- The Inquirer

This is from Kaspersky, you know those guys who know nothing about security.

or do I need now quote Android's main man at MWC

"We cannot guarantee that Android is designed to be safe, the format was designed to give more freedom. When people talk about 90% of malware for Android, they must of course take into account the fact that it is the most popular operating system in the world. If I had a company dedicated to malware, I would also be addressing my attacks on Android ? "

Oh look we have now become as bad as Microsoft.

 

[JeffDenver]

This is from your own link:
“It should be understood that the required situation for a potential breach includes multiple sets of conditions that are extremely unlikely to occur at the same time and that the real potential risk is minimal, at best,” Davies said.

If it is part of the Android api, it is part of the OS. Turn off Javascript and you turn off every functioning website.

So is Davies wrong? You tell me.

Whenever these arguments come up, I find that people (especially the ones arguing against Android) tend to grossly exaggerate the real magnitude of these threats.

(btw - It should be noted that this iOS flaw did not require "multiple sets of conditions unlikely to occur at the same time"...and that it happened on non-jailbroken devices running the stock OS with all security features enabled)

 

[retsaw]

This is from Kaspersky, you know those guys who know nothing about security.

A company that is in the market of selling security services. I'm not saying they are being dishonest here, I don't know, but it would be in their interests to make things look worse than they are so more people would be more likely to pay for their premium products.



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[Farish]

So is Davies wrong? You tell me.

Whenever these arguments come up, I find that people (especially the ones arguing against Android) tend to grossly exaggerate the real magnitude of these threats.

(btw - It should be noted that this iOS flaw did not require "multiple sets of conditions unlikely to occur at the same time"...and that it happened on non-jailbroken devices running the stock OS with all security features enabled)

There are no multiple set of conditions. If the transmission is unencrypted it can be intercepted.

From same article later on down.

JavaScript bridge attacks are ridiculously easy to do, Miller said. By reading a Web page and using tools available online for free, an attacker could have it ready in half an hour, he said.

HTTPS would mitigate the man-in-the-middle attack vector, but not others like rogue ads potentially making their way into the ad network and exploiting this issue. However, adding HTTPS would massively increase the levels of security that ad library vendors offer to their customers, Miller said.

This exists and I know you would like to make it minor, but it really isn't especially since so many devices run Android version under 4.2.

Good like trying to run the web without Javascript.

A company that is in the market of selling security services. I'm not saying they are being dishonest here, I don't know, but it would be in their interests to make things look worse than they are so more people would be likely to pay for their premium products.

That is true, but this company is also know as the ones who have figured that China had broken into Google, Microsoft, Apple etc. They figured out the mask trojan along others.

It is why they have such a good reputation with regards to this stuff.


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[JeffDenver]

This exists and I know you would like to make it minor

In the same way you would like it to be major. It is not in your interest in this argument to portray any threat as anything other than serious. I do not think you are unbiased.

 

[JeffDenver]

Contrary to what you?ve heard, Android is almost impenetrable to malware

Google?s Android Security chief Adrian Ludwig reported data showing that less than an estimated 0.001% of app installations on Android are able to evade the system?s multi-layered defenses and cause harm to users.

Contrary to what you’ve heard, Android is almost impenetrable to malware – Quartz

.001% are pretty good odds IMO, even if they are not zero.

 

[Haalcyon]

What is the point that both of you are trying to prove? Neither Android or iOS is infallible when it comes to security compromises. The rest is just details. Jeff, for your benefit I'll say Android is superior in every imaginable way, whether or not I believe that is largely irrelevant. If you don't agree with that, well, it's only me saying it but I'm sure there are some out there that would agree. As long as I can have my iOS devices I don't care which is deemed better or more secure by every person here or on the planet. Not sure why smart people waste time arguing it. What's been learned by this? The bottom line is that they're both secure ENOUGH and security issues are addressed. Anywho, what would it take to cease the android vs. arguments here? Yeah, they're entertaining and all but is that the point?


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[A895]

What is the point that both of you are trying to prove? Neither Android or iOS is infallible when it comes to security compromises. The rest is just details. Jeff, for your benefit I'll say Android is superior in every imaginable way, whether or not I believe that is largely irrelevant. If you don't agree with that, well, it's only me saying it but I'm sure there are some out there that would agree. As long as I can have my iOS devices I don't care which is deemed better or more secure by every person here or on the planet. Not sure why smart people waste time arguing it. What's been learned by this? The bottom line is that they're both secure ENOUGH and security issues are addressed. Anywho, what would it take to cease the android vs. arguments here? Yeah, they're entertaining and all but is that the point?


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Its the internet your words mean little. /jk

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[Haalcyon]

Its the internet your words mean little. /jk

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But you're so right. So people argue this knowing their words mean little...to just...pass the time?


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[A895]

But you're so right. So people argue this knowing their words mean little...to just...pass the time?


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Something to do I suppose. The worst and longest arguments can be had with Bitcoin fans.

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[Farish]

In the same way you would like it to be major. It is not in your interest in this argument to portray any threat as anything other than serious. I do not think you are unbiased.

I am very biased but has nothing towards operating systems/oems.

I think a high percentage of the malware happens because of the user and a lack of common sense. My bias comes from the belief that people shouldn't be clicking on things or hitting that wonderful yes button that pops up.

.001% are pretty good odds IMO, even if they are not zero.

Same article, most malware was found to be installed via text message. I wonder how much of that was because somebody clicked on the link.

My point is security holes are everywhere. You stated it hasn't happen in Android for a while

How many man-in-the-middle attacks has Android been vulnerable to lately?

and no matter how much you try to relegate the affect of it, my point is that this one that became known last month.

 

[JeffDenver]

What is the point that both of you are trying to prove? Neither Android or iOS is infallible when it comes to security compromises.

Which is not what iOS people would have you believe. I am attempting to expose the myth that iOS is some kind of virus-free utopia.

As long as I can have my iOS devices I don't care which is deemed better or more secure by every person here or on the planet.

You can have iOS on any Android device. Just ignore the desktop and use only the app drawer.

 

[Haalcyon]

Which is not what iOS people would have you believe. I am attempting to expose the myth that iOS is some kind of virus-free utopia.


You can have iOS on any Android device. Just ignore the desktop and use only the app drawer.

...or just use an iPhone/iPad.


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[prepaidguy9081]

If its a system it has flaws.
The whole code is written by get this, people, and we know their track record for mistakes.

Quantifying things for what is a qualitative opinion?

Just use what you like.
I like droid u like iphone, can't we all be freinds.

I mean if we all buy iphones because they are infallible [and thus move the android market share to apple] demand goes up, and for a while production stays the same and your iphone costs more money.

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[JeffDenver]

Just use what you like.
I like droid u like iphone, can't we all be freinds.

Can we have different opinions and still be friends? Am I allowed to express an opinion you don't like without risking our friendship?

 

[prepaidguy9081]

Of course, I was just ranting about the seemingly endless nu uhh iphones better cuz... nu uhh android is better cuz... grinds my gears a little but its all good



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