I got an Android, but want to go back to the iPhone. Why is this?

[pappy53]

Now let's be fair. Nothing you've posted so far has substantiated your initial claim of the 5s doubling the sales of the S4. Selling more overall, ok, but not doubling.

Fair enough. I'll just say right now that the 5 outsold the S4, and the 5s is headed in that direction.


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[Haalcyon]

It kinda makes sense. You have more folks that are not tech savvy buying a lot of iPhones and folks that are indeed tech savvy buying them as well. I've read folks here say some people buy iPhones as a fashion accessory. Okay, if someone says so. I don't think a lot of android users are buying their phones as fashion accessories. They're buying them because...watch this...they have four cores.... ...and can zip files, and have S Pens and stuff. But even the little dual-core fashion accessory that is the iPhone is selling okay. I sure know that mine don't make me look any more hip.

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[benhaube]

I won't say that iOS 7.1 is crash and lag-free. I will say that on my four iBabies it is lag-free from what I can see and the only thing that crashes are errant apps, CNN and Tapatalk (which also crashes on this G Pad 8.3). I haven't received OS crashes in iOS. 7.1 (or on this G Pad today). I'm obviously no genius so I don't know why my experiences are different except that I am not doing any complex gaming on thelse iBabies. Otherwise, I'm consuming content on them constantly. I had no problems in iOS 7.0.x either but many complained of performance issues. None of my iBabies lags like this G Pad 8.3. Click an icon and then, pause, pause, launch. I don't recall it being so noticeable before. I don't recall my G2 or Optimus G Pro acting this way.

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First of all... Why do you call iPad an iBabie? That just sounds really weird. Second...I have a G Pad 8.3 and I have never had a lag or a crash. It is, however, the Google Play Edition so all of that LG stuff over Android is not there and it is running android 4.4.2.

I have owned an iPad and an iPhone and I can tell you for certain that Android can do more and is a far more advanced OS than iOS is

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[benhaube]

Typically iPhone people bring this up when trying to demonstrate why the iPhone is better than Android phones. Since Android crushes iOS in every other metric, this is their go-to statistic to prove iOS still matters.


People voted with their wallets. Thats why Android leads in marketshare and Windows Phone is struggling and Blackberry is virtually dead.

Yeah I prefer Android and it is a better OS. I hate the limitations of iOS. The only reason for them is because Apple thinks I don't need to do those things, and I'm here to tell you that I can think for myself.

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[JeffDenver]

iPhones sweep list of 2011's best-selling smartphones in U.S.

This is talking about sales from 3 years ago. Not sure what the point of posting it was.

iPhone 5 becomes world's best selling smartphone | News | TechRadar

This is from your own link:

Apple's dominance is in sharp contrast to the third quarter of 2012 when the S3 was perched above both iOS devices, selling 18 million units.

iPhone 5 becomes world's best selling smartphone | News | TechRadar

Your link is talking about a single quarter, and is also clearly saying how the iPhone was not previously at the top. It changed quarter to quarter. If your argument is that the iPhone has always sold the most units, this link does not prove that. If your argument is that the iPhone is currently outselling evverything else, this link does not prove that.

iPhone 5s Top-Selling Smartphone at All U.S. Carriers, iPhone 5c Takes Third - Mac Rumors

You are really using numbers from an Apple fan site as evidence? Really?

Best Buy accounts for 12% of U.S. smartphone sales

This link is actually supporting my claim that the carriers are far from the only ones selling phones. And the chart even shows an equal split between Android and iOS. It shows no specifics at all, so we have no way of knowing which iOS devices are in that figure and in what proportions.

Wouldn't you think that those numbers would count, as they are activated on the carriers?

No. Because they are talking about sales, not activations. The two terms do not mean the same thing. I can buy a used 4S and activate it...that is not a sale in this context. It's not a new phone.

Even if that was all true it would still prove nothing, because the claim being made (I assume) is that Apple has the best selling smartphone....not OS. In order to determine that we'd need figures breaking down sales by model, which I have not seen so far. The figures I have posted are not generic Samsung models, but specific models (The S3 above for example).

 

[JeffDenver]

This thread title needs an update... Android sales versus iPhone sales.

It is unreasonable to expect that when someone makes a claim in a thread that is clearly wrong that it simply go unchallenged, even if it is not directly related to the original topic. You can't expect to just let people insert random "facts" into a discussion without comment. If you do you are tacitly accepting their claims as fact.

That being said, I am not even sure this is off topic. This topic is clearly iOS vs Android. Read the thread title.

 

[pappy53]

This is talking about sales from 3 years ago. Not sure what the point of posting it was.


This is from your own link:


Your link is talking about a single quarter, and is also clearly saying how the iPhone was not previously at the top. It changed quarter to quarter. If your argument is that the iPhone has always sold the most units, this link does not prove that. If your argument is that the iPhone is currently outselling evverything else, this link does not prove that.


You are really using numbers from an Apple fan site as evidence? Really?


This link is actually supporting my claim that the carriers are far from the only ones selling phones. And the chart even shows an equal split between Android and iOS. It shows no specifics at all, so we have no way of knowing which iOS devices are in that figure and in what proportions.


No. Because they are talking about sales, not activations. The two terms do not mean the same thing. I can buy a used 4S and activate it...that is not a sale in this context. It's not a new phone.

Even if that was all true it would still prove nothing, because the claim being made (I assume) is that Apple has the best selling smartphone....not OS. In order to determine that we'd need figures breaking down sales by model, which I have not seen so far. The figures I have posted are not generic Samsung models, but specific models (The S3 above for example).

You are probably the only person on the planet that thinks that the iPhone isn't the best selling smartphone every year I posted the links to show different years that the iPhone sold more. The 5 sold 89,000,000 through Sept.2013. Has any Android done that?


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[Haalcyon]

Yeah I prefer Android and it is a better OS to me. I hate the limitations of iOS. I think the only reason for them is because Apple thinks I don't need to do those things, and I'm here to tell you that I can think for myself.

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Corrected that for you. I think if you were to go up the street to iMore they may disagree with you. I'm not sure, but that is what I believe.

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[Sanjay Chandra]

You are probably the only person on the planet that thinks that the iPhone isn't the best selling smartphone every year I posted the links to show different years that the iPhone sold more. The 5 sold 89,000,000 through Sept.2013. Has any Android done that?
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iPhone 5 sold that much because that's the only phone besides 4S and 4 for users who want iOS.

Once check how many flagships are there for Android :
Galaxy S3 , Note II , Galaxy S4 , HTC One , Xperia Z etc.

Users have choice from many devices , So the sales are broken down into different models.
You are comparing two different markets here.

A platform where several companies offer flagships Vs a platform where only single company offers flagship.
That being said , Galaxy series which is 3 years later to the market is showing lot of heat to all companies.

 

[ab304945]

You are probably the only person on the planet that thinks that the iPhone isn't the best selling smartphone every year I posted the links to show different years that the iPhone sold more. The 5 sold 89,000,000 through Sept.2013. Has any Android done that?


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Just because it sells more doesn't mean it's better. Just means more people are brain washed.

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[UJ95x]

You are probably the only person on the planet that thinks that the iPhone isn't the best selling smartphone every year I posted the links to show different years that the iPhone sold more. The 5 sold 89,000,000 through Sept.2013. Has any Android done that?


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iPhone is the only iOS option. Android outsells iOS by a lot, around the world, because there are a multitude of options. But you already knew that...

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[Haalcyon]

Just because it sells more doesn't mean it's better. Just means more people are brain washed.

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Possibly. There's a lot of word of mouth selling iPhones too. It's easy to target the iPhones as recommendations, there's only 2 models. When there's 20 different models it's harder for some to know what to buy. Everyone doesn't do the deep research AC members might on all the different models of phones. That's a big part of why Apple and Samsung sell so many phones, I THINK.

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[benhaube]

Corrected that for you. I think if you were to go up the street to iMore they may disagree with you. I'm not sure, but that is what I believe.

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But see that's the whole point I was trying to make earlier in this thread. There are so many different phones and a handful of different mobile operating systems for a reason, and if you disagree with my opinion than there is an OS for you. Choice is our best friend because it forces all of them to constantly get better, and that's only good for us. So, I personally couldn't care less if your opinion differs from mine. I have simply stated the way I see things. It makes no sense to me why people fight over this stuff because in the end it doesn't really matter, and they are going to use what they feel like using.

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[A895]

But see that's the whole point I was trying to make earlier in this thread. There are so many different phones and a handful of different mobile operating systems for a reason, and if you disagree with my opinion than there is an OS for you. Choice is our best friend because it forces all of them to constantly get better, and that's only good for us. So, I personally couldn't care less if your opinion differs from mine. I have simply stated the way I see things. It makes no sense to me why people fight over this stuff because in the end it doesn't really matter, and they are going to use what they feel like using.

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If only everyone saw it this way. I see members in other forums lose their mind over petty things when it concerns their favorite company. I don't understand defending multi million/billion dollar company's who only care if you buy what they are selling.

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[pappy53]

Just because it sells more doesn't mean it's better. Just means more people are brain washed.

Very observant.

 

[pappy53]

iPhone 5 sold that much because that's the only phone besides 4S and 4 for users who want iOS.

Once check how many flagships are there for Android :
Galaxy S3 , Note II , Galaxy S4 , HTC One , Xperia Z etc.

Users have choice from many devices , So the sales are broken down into different models.
You are comparing two different markets here.

A platform where several companies offer flagships Vs a platform where only single company offers flagship.
That being said , Galaxy series which is 3 years later to the market is showing lot of heat to all companies.

I am comparing the same markets. It just seems, IMO, that if the best-selling Android (S4) is so much greater than the iPhone that all the extra millions of Android buyers would make it the #1 seller. The guy said on here that he didn't think that the iPhone was the best selling smartphone, so I simply asked if he could show any Android that has sold 89,000,000 units. Instead of just answering "no", it got spun into "Android has so many models, and iOS has one option".

 

[Aquila]

I am comparing the same markets. It just seems, IMO, that if the best-selling Android (S4) is so much greater than the iPhone that all the extra millions of Android buyers would make it the #1 seller. The guy said on here that he didn't think that the iPhone was the best selling smartphone, so I simply asked if he could show any Android that has sold 89,000,000 units. Instead of just answering "no", it got spun into "Android has so many models, and iOS has one option".

Essentially, the way I understand it... Android and iOS sell in approximately equal volumes in the US, however Android sells at about 5:3 globally.

Most Android sales are still not the flagship devices, but a myriad of hundreds of devices released to different markets with an extreme variety of specs, forms, options, prices, etc - while the iPhone is the same 5-6 devices sold across the globe.

Comparing Android to iOS therefore, it is easy to see that Android sells more and by a lot, although the interpretation of why is a definite point of debate... but no single Android phone sells quite as well as the best selling iOS phone each year - at least, we generally believe this is true.

 

[astoria0128]

Re: got an android but want to go back to iphone. why is this

May be iPhone gives you better user interface.....

 

[Sanjay Chandra]

Very observant.

Do you think KFC or McDonald's is the best place for food ?

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[Haalcyon]

Do you think KFC or McDonald's is the best place for food ?

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KFC is the best place for fried chicken to me. McDonald's. No, just no...but my his Highnesses, the Morsel, my 4-year old would strongly disagree.


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