I must say this ...

[sp44]

In case you didn't read everything I've followed this phone since it was a rumor. I'm in no way trying to discredit this phone. You are acting unreasonable because you can't take your precious device has flaws. Big ones at that.

Why do you already have the Sensation from T-Mobile in your profile?

 

[Air Force One]

The thunderbolt has Been out for a while so I think I can safely say this. This phone is so disappointing you me. I've watched news of this phone since the rumors of the Incredible HD. And this phone was hyped up to be "The phone after your dream phone. " and hasn't lived up to the hype in the least.

Some of my dissatisfactions in this phone are :

1.No sense.com support.

2.Sense 2.0.

3.No unibody

4.This was the first lte phone and didn't work the way it should had.

5.Major bugs which the "solution" only worsened .

6.It was rushed and that is apparent.

7.No dual coring.

8.Doesn't have 1gb of ram.

9.It shipped with a year old version of android.

10.No Skype.

11.No Netflix.

12.So much bloat in it.

Please don't flame me. I've never flamed any of you.

1. This is the only legit complaint you have.

2. I love Sense 2.0. Neither you or I have actually used sense 3.0 so you have no idea if it is good, or will be buggy.

3. You should have known by picking it up in your hand that it was not aluminum unibody.

4. It's the LTE network that is having issues, not the TBolt.

5. . I have no issues whatsoever, no bugs at all and I'm running day 1 stock

6. The NETWORK is rushed, not the TBolt...the TBolt was actually delayed forEVER.

7. You should have known it was not dual core on DAY ONE

8. Memory is fine. Have never had an issue.

9. Again, you should; have known what version of Android the TBolt was shipping with.

10. contact the owners of Skype, they're to blame.

11. contact the owners of Netflix, they're the ones to blame.

12. AGAIN, you knew there was bloat on it day one.

 

[INK]

None that I have experienced.

I know that's not what you wanted to hear (read), but it's the truth.

Truth is the most popular threads are the problem ones. I know because I read thunderbolt the most.

 

[INK]

1. This is the only legit complaint you have.

2. I love Sense 2.0. Neither you or I have actually used sense 3.0 so you have no idea if it is good, or will be buggy.

3. You should have known by picking it up in your hand that it was not aluminum unibody.

4. It's the LTE network that is having issues, not the TBolt.

5. . I have no issues whatsoever, no bugs at all and I'm running day 1 stock

6. The NETWORK is rushed, not the TBolt...the TBolt was actually delayed forEVER.

7. You should have known it was not dual core on DAY ONE

8. Memory is fine. Have never had an issue.

9. Again, you should; have known what version of Android the TBolt was shipping with. t.

10. contact the owners of Skype, they're to blame.

11. contact the owners of Netflix, they're the ones to blame.

12. AGAIN, you knew there was bloat on it day one.

Screw this you guys are the most rude and unreasonable people I've ever talked to on this site. And sir I'm far from ignorant I'm probably younger than you and I don't resort to name calling.

 

[mannw1977]

Ink your another person that is never happy. You can go ahead and and go to sprint att or tmobile. Then you will be on here talking about how long it takes to load a page. Lte will be going smoothly as soon as the bugs are fixed. Drink a beer and chill out.

 

[nate44]

Truth is the most popular threads are the problem ones. I know because I read thunderbolt the most.

Look at any forum, and you will see that most threads are from people with problems. You're grasping at straws now.

 

[mannw1977]

Screw this you guys are the most rude and unreasonable people I've ever talked to on this site. And sir I'm far from ignorant I'm probably younger than you and I don't resort to name calling.

Did you read your first post. Lol.

 

[nate44]

Screw this you guys are the most rude and unreasonable people I've ever talked to on this site. And sir I'm far from ignorant I'm probably younger than you and I don't resort to name calling.

 

[Gravytrain]

What does a unibody phone exactly mean?

 

[Air Force One]

Screw this you guys are the most rude and unreasonable people I've ever talked to on this site. And sir I'm far from ignorant I'm probably younger than you and I don't resort to name calling.

Actually the most unreasonable people are the fanboys who don't even own the device yet. Like you and the Sensation.

You just sit back and READ rather than buy and try devices. I'd respect your opinion more if you had a TBolt. But you don't. You've just read about it. Which means nothing.

 

[INK]

Ink your another person that is never happy. You can go ahead and and go to sprint att or tmobile. Then you will be on here talking about how long it takes to load a page. Lte will be going smoothly as soon as the bugs are fixed. Drink a beer and chill out.

I'm never happy? You don't know me sir and I speak as a tech enthusiast. I was merely saying im disappointed this phone wasn't the best it could have been.

 

[nate44]

I'm never happy? You don't know me sir and I speak as a tech enthusiast. I was merely saying im disappointed this phone wasn't the best it could have been.

It's been out for 3 whole months. Come back in another year and make that statement.

 

[INK]

Actually the most unreasonable people are the fanboys who don't even own the device yet. Like you and the Sensation.

You just sit back and READ rather than buy and try devices. I'd respect your opinion more if you had a TBolt. But you don't. You've just read about it. Which means nothing.

Fanboy I never claimed sensation was better or anything and I have tried it out.

 

[mannw1977]

Just chill out bro! You are meat and there are wolves all around you. Most of us have TB and you are talking hella ****. Take the losses and move on. You need to get a TB and see were we are coming from.

 

[INK]

Just chill out bro! You are meat and there are wolves all around you. Most of us have TB and you are talking hella ****. Take the losses and move on. You need to get a TB and see were we are coming from.

Did all of you miss all my other posts where I've been nothing but helpful in this Forum?

 

[bunique4life05]

Countdown until thread is closed.....begins

 

[INK]

-sigh -

 

[canesfan44]

Well what kind of reaction were you aiming for? I mean you come into the forum ripping the phone that many people like myself are very satisfied with and you expect us to just go along with it?

It seems like your expectations were a little too unrealistic, especially being that this phone is only 3 months old. You have to understand that growing pains were to be expected for Verizon's first 4G device. It's not a perfect, but it's the best phone for Verizon right now and will continue to be for at least another year.

We all know the Sensation has better specs than the Thunderbolt, but you can't play the wait game in mobile tech forever. Really, how much better can it get than what we have now for the near future. 3D is a gimmick, dual core won't be optimized for the OS anytime soon, Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 is already being ported to the Bolt as well. Other than some miraculous improvements in battery technology I really don't see anything on the horizon that will blow this phone out of the water anytime soon.

I could neither agree more nor say it better.

Ink: I certainly don't think he's being unreasonable. He knows it has some flaws and he admits it. It seems like you're the one being unreasonable. It certainly comes off like you only want people to complain about the TB, and if you're like myself and most other TB owners then you probably haven't had any problems with it, and have no reason to complain. Why is it perfectly reasonable for you to create a thread bad-mouthing the TB, in the TB forum, and unreasonable for TB owners to stand up for their phone, especially when it hasn't had any of the problems some people have had. What was your purpose in creating this thread? What did you want to get out of creating this thread? The reason why you see a lot of threads of people having problems with their TB should be pretty obvious. It's simple logic. An overwhelming majority of those threads are a repeat of something that has already been talked about many times in many other threads. A lot of people are too lazy to simply do a search, so they create a new thread so that other people will do the search for them and either post a link or just repeat what's already been said. The phone is still relatively new. When any phone first comes out, the majority of the threads are complaints or questions of why "x" does/doesn't do "y". I have never looked at the Droid Charge forum, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of threads that aren't user reviews, aren't asking about what are the best apps/which apps to get, and aren't about people wanting to know how to root it, are about complaints, bugs, or other problems. Most people don't start a thread just to tell everyone about how great their phone is working. Think about it. I someone notices that their phone won't record in HD, they will more than likely ask or create a thread about it hoping that someone knows what exactly is wrong and how to fix it. People don't create thread just to say that there video camera is fully functional and that every shooting mode works. If everybody that likes their TB and haven't had any problems with it (like myself) made a thread just to say there phone is working the way it should and how much they like it, you would rarely see a thread where someone is actually having a problem, because there would be 100,000+ positive threads in front of it pushing it to the 1,000th page. Seriously, I have never looked at the Droid Charge forum, but, like I said, I'm willing to bet that the majority of the threads (that aren't reviews, app questions, or about rooting/hacking) are complaints and problems. Next, any and every complaint/problem that a user has is going to become a thread (unless they actually do a search), so that the user can see if it is a common problem, or very unusual, or if someone has a fix, or if the user did something to cause the problem and what they need to do to fix it, etc, etc. People aren't creating threads because


Since the update, my battery is significantly better than it was (almost double the life), and that was my only complaint (no longer a complaint) other than no hdmi port, but the dlna works great for me. I don't see why anyone complains about this phone. Anything that people claim to be better either came out after the TB, haven't come out yet, or isn't available on Verizon. In my opinion, the only phone that is on the TB's level is the Droid Charge, simply because it's the only other Verizon LTE phone. Yes, there have been a couple problems with LTE, which only effected me for one day. Those LTE problems only effected LTE service. I was still getting 3g service. So, since the day it has come out, my phone has been significantly faster than any other phone, with the exception of one day. For me, unlimited LTE makes this by far the best phone. I don't play games or leave all sorts of apps and screens running at the same time, so having dual-core makes no difference to me. The only thing I care about is how fast the service is, and nothing compares to Verizon's LTE. Netflix will be here soon, so will Skype, and I seriously doubt that any of these "new technology" phones are going to work better than my "last year's technology" TB (unless they're using wifi, but if you aren't using wifi and have to use 4g or 3g, unless your phone is the Droid Charge, the TB will be much better). I seriously can't understand why anybody complains about the TB, unless they have reboot problems, and I and none of my friends that have a TB have had those (or any) problems. It's easy to find faults/insufficiencies with anything, but when I weigh out the pros and cons, and assign value/importance levels to each pro and con, no phone, except the Droid Charge, stacks up to the TB. People that try and say that Verizon's LTE isn't worth it or it always crashhes, are fooling themselves. It's the same price on Verizon for 3g and 4g, so that argument holds no water. The LTE crashes argument is almost as weak. The LTE network has had a couple problems, but it only effected me for one day and I still had 3g, so my phone was slowed down to almost the same speed that every other has. The other 98%+ of the time, I can download an entire album in the time it takes my girlfriend's AT&T iPhone4 to download the first song. I pay the exact same rate for LTE as I did with 3g, so if I lose LTE for a day or two for the next couple months, I'm still in a better situation than I would be if I was using a different service provider. By the time AT&T, and everyone else, start to get their LTE network up and running, Verizon's LTE will be well established and have great coverage, and everyone else is will be going through the LTE issues that Verizon is going through now. Until then, where I live (Miami), Verizon's "4g" network will be running circles around everyone else's.

 

[INK]

I could neither agree more nor say it better.

Ink: I certainly don't think he's being unreasonable. He knows it has some flaws and he admits it. It seems like you're the one being unreasonable. It certainly comes off like you only want people to complain about the TB, and if you're like myself and most other TB owners then you probably haven't had any problems with it, and have no reason to complain. Why is it perfectly reasonable for you to create a thread bad-mouthing the TB, in the TB forum, and unreasonable for TB owners to stand up for their phone, especially when it hasn't had any of the problems some people have had. What was your purpose in creating this thread? What did you want to get out of creating this thread? The reason why you see a lot of threads of people having problems with their TB should be pretty obvious. It's simple logic. An overwhelming majority of those threads are a repeat of something that has already been talked about many times in many other threads. A lot of people are too lazy to simply do a search, so they create a new thread so that other people will do the search for them and either post a link or just repeat what's already been said. The phone is still relatively new. When any phone first comes out, the majority of the threads are complaints or questions of why "x" does/doesn't do "y". I have never looked at the Droid Charge forum, but I'm willing to bet that the majority of threads that aren't user reviews, aren't asking about what are the best apps/which apps to get, and aren't about people wanting to know how to root it, are about complaints, bugs, or other problems. Most people don't start a thread just to tell everyone about how great their phone is working. Think about it. I someone notices that their phone won't record in HD, they will more than likely ask or create a thread about it hoping that someone knows what exactly is wrong and how to fix it. People don't create thread just to say that there video camera is fully functional and that every shooting mode works. If everybody that likes their TB and haven't had any problems with it (like myself) made a thread just to say there phone is working the way it should and how much they like it, you would rarely see a thread where someone is actually having a problem, because there would be 100,000+ positive threads in front of it pushing it to the 1,000th page. Seriously, I have never looked at the Droid Charge forum, but, like I said, I'm willing to bet that the majority of the threads (that aren't reviews, app questions, or about rooting/hacking) are complaints and problems. Next, any and every complaint/problem that a user has is going to become a thread (unless they actually do a search), so that the user can see if it is a common problem, or very unusual, or if someone has a fix, or if the user did something to cause the problem and what they need to do to fix it, etc, etc. People aren't creating threads because


Since the update, my battery is significantly better than it was (almost double the life), and that was my only complaint (no longer a complaint) other than no hdmi port, but the dlna works great for me. I don't see why anyone complains about this phone. Anything that people claim to be better either came out after the TB, haven't come out yet, or isn't available on Verizon. In my opinion, the only phone that is on the TB's level is the Droid Charge, simply because it's the only other Verizon LTE phone. Yes, there have been a couple problems with LTE, which only effected me for one day. Those LTE problems only effected LTE service. I was still getting 3g service. So, since the day it has come out, my phone has been significantly faster than any other phone, with the exception of one day. For me, unlimited LTE makes this by far the best phone. I don't play games or leave all sorts of apps and screens running at the same time, so having dual-core makes no difference to me. The only thing I care about is how fast the service is, and nothing compares to Verizon's LTE. Netflix will be here soon, so will Skype, and I seriously doubt that any of these "new technology" phones are going to work better than my "last year's technology" TB (unless they're using wifi, but if you aren't using wifi and have to use 4g or 3g, unless your phone is the Droid Charge, the TB will be much better). I seriously can't understand why anybody complains about the TB, unless they have reboot problems, and I and none of my friends that have a TB have had those (or any) problems. It's easy to find faults/insufficiencies with anything, but when I weigh out the pros and cons, and assign value/importance levels to each pro and con, no phone, except the Droid Charge, stacks up to the TB. People that try and say that Verizon's LTE isn't worth it or it always crashhes, are fooling themselves. It's the same price on Verizon for 3g and 4g, so that argument holds no water. The LTE crashes argument is almost as weak. The LTE network has had a couple problems, but it only effected me for one day and I still had 3g, so my phone was slowed down to almost the same speed that every other has. The other 98%+ of the time, I can download an entire album in the time it takes my girlfriend's AT&T iPhone4 to download the first song. I pay the exact same rate for LTE as I did with 3g, so if I lose LTE for a day or two for the next couple months, I'm still in a better situation than I would be if I was using a different service provider. By the time AT&T, and everyone else, start to get their LTE network up and running, Verizon's LTE will be well established and have great coverage, and everyone else is will be going through the LTE issues that Verizon is going through now. Until then, where I live (Miami), Verizon's "4g" network will be running circles around everyone else's.

Oh really? This is the first time I've made a negative argument against the phone. I've even recommended it to friends who want a new android device talked him out of a Droid x. But yes I only speak negatively about the phone. (sarcasm )

 

[zero neck]

The thunderbolt has Been out for a while so I think I can safely say this. This phone is so disappointing you me. I've watched news of this phone since the rumors of the Incredible HD. And this phone was hyped up to be "The phone after your dream phone. " and hasn't lived up to the hype in the least.

Some of my dissatisfactions in this phone are :

1.No sense.com support.

2.Sense 2.0.

3.No unibody

4.This was the first lte phone and didn't work the way it should had.

5.Major bugs which the "solution" only worsened .

6.It was rushed and that is apparent.

7.No dual coring.

8.Doesn't have 1gb of ram.

9.It shipped with a year old version of android.

10.No Skype.

11.No Netflix.

12.So much bloat in it.

Please don't flame me. I've never flamed any of you.

alot of this is fair tho.

everyone knows this phone isnt perfect, but honestly its the best phone out for now (except the charge if you're into that, which is cool), and there will always be better phones coming out.

is the tbolt awesome? yes (especially if you have lte and dont mind less than great battery or have the extended which is too big for normal humans jk)
is it the best phone ever>? no but nothing will be till next year and then that phone will suck and the next one will be amaazing i swear.