I need some honest opinions.

It got rather hot for me while using GPS. And as Jeff said ^ It likes to bounce connections/towers. I eventually locked it into LTE and my battery life is better.

I use the device just as your describing..and no other real heat issues. I might even remove my rubber case to see if it disperses heat better ( which im sure it will..but how much so.. )
 
yeah but are you guys on AT&T not sprint I am on AT&T.

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It doesn't overheat, but it is throttled. So you're not getting your money's worth. It's crippled on purpose.

Just like the poorer screen, this is bad design.

The design and metal build is still the best in the market in my opinion and it marries perfectly with Sense. The speakers continue to be amazing. But the there just isn't enough over the M8 to demand premium flagship prices. It's just not good value for money in my opinion
 
It doesn't overheat, but it is throttled. So you're not getting your money's worth. It's crippled on purpose.

Just like the poorer screen, this is bad design.

The design and metal build is still the best in the market in my opinion and it marries perfectly with Sense. The speakers continue to be amazing. But the there just isn't enough over the M8 to demand premium flagship prices. It's just not good value for money in my opinion

All flagships are over priced. Is there one out there that you feel isn't overpriced?
 
my m9 I have good battery it last me all day to 9 than I put on charger I can play iheartradio app on it it get little warm.
 
All flagships are over priced. Is there one out there that you feel isn't overpriced?
I don't think the M9 is good value. In the UK it's the same price as the S6 which has a better processor, camera, amoled and higher res screen, fingerprint scanner and quick charger out the box -- all at no extra cost. It's also double the price of the arguably equal M8. These thing diminish it's value. It's also the same cost as an iPhone, so if the M9 only really offers a great metal build and smooth UI, the iPhone 6 is a good alternative (minus boomsound but plus camera, fingerprint scanner).

All of these things factor when making a butting decision. Essentially, the M9 doesn't distinguish itself.
 
All flagships are over priced. Is there one out there that you feel isn't overpriced?

Yes I think the Note series provide more fun, utility, features, ease of use, built quality than everybody else in one whole package. I think that phone justifies it's price. Other than that, I don't think so.

P.s. not a current Note user.

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I don't think the M9 is good value. In the UK it's the same price as the S6 which has a better processor, camera, amoled and higher res screen, fingerprint scanner and quick charger out the box -- all at no extra cost. It's also double the price of the arguably equal M8. These thing diminish it's value. It's also the same cost as an iPhone, so if the M9 only really offers a great metal build and smooth UI, the iPhone 6 is a good alternative (minus boomsound but plus camera, fingerprint scanner).

All of these things factor when making a butting decision. Essentially, the M9 doesn't distinguish itself.

So you think the S6 is a flagship worth it's cost? It cost more than the M9. Why don't you compare the cost of the S6 to to the S5? Last I remember, you could get two S5s for the price of one. Comparing the price of the latest to last years model is redundant. You are always gonna pay more for the latest. The S6/is loaded with its own issues- poor battery, lag, over heating, rattling home button, and worst of all, Touchwiz is nowhere near as polished and smooth as Sense 7.
 
Yes I think the Note series provide more fun, utility, features, ease of use, built quality than everybody else in one whole package. I think that phone justifies it's price. Other than that, I don't think so.

P.s. not a current Note user.

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My wife had a Note 2 and I just recently moved her up to a Note 4. The Note is easily the best device Samsung puts out. If only it had a better UI.
 
So you think the S6 is a flagship worth it's cost? It cost more than the M9. Why don't you compare the cost of the S6 to to the S5? Last I remember, you could get two S5s for the price of one. Comparing the price of the latest to last years model is redundant. You are always gonna pay more for the latest. The S6/is loaded with its own issues- poor battery, lag, over heating, rattling home button, and worst of all, Touchwiz is nowhere near as polished and smooth as Sense 7.

The S6 and M9 cost the same in the UK. It has some minor issues, just like the M9 is throttled and suffers from 2 year old screen tech, not to mention a camera that can't even compete with the mid end. The Alcatel Idol 3 has a better camera (and dual front facing speakers that sound just as good) - yes Alcatel, an unknown company, but year upon year HTC serve mediocrity in the camera department

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So you think the S6 is a flagship worth it's cost? It cost more than the M9. Why don't you compare the cost of the S6 to to the S5? Last I remember, you could get two S5s for the price of one. Comparing the price of the latest to last years model is redundant. You are always gonna pay more for the latest. The S6/is loaded with its own issues- poor battery, lag, over heating, rattling home button, and worst of all, Touchwiz is nowhere near as polished and smooth as Sense 7.

Let's not get rowdy man.
Every phone has it's flaws. Its how they manage to move on from them that matters. There's a night and day difference between the s6 and s5. And a 1pm and 2pm difference in the HTC.

Little details like
The bezels
The thickness
The weight
The button layout
The screen

All these little things account for one big factor.

Don't get me wrong. I'll take HTC any day over a Samsung. But the HTC one M9 just didn't improve in anyway. Only the software got better. Which is a big deal I get it. But that's just really it.

Even if they managed to remove those bezels I would've said they actually did something nice.

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The S6 and M9 cost the same in the UK. It has some minor issues, just like the M9 is throttled and suffers from 2 year old screen tech, not to mention a camera that can't even compete with the mid end. The Alcatel Idol 3 has a better camera (and dual front facing speakers that sound just as good) - yes Alcatel, an unknown company, but year upon year HTC serve mediocrity in the camera department

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The camera issue is just software related and there is update on the way that fixes it. Beyond that, the M9 , even throttled as you believe, runs fast and smooth. Sense has leaped way ahead of Touchwiz. Even many of the S6 fanboys are installing Nova because they can't take Touchwiz. You don't have to like the M9. It is great to have different phones to choose from. Move on to that Acatel and be happy. I'm sure someone would quickly trade you an Acatel for the M9. Assuming you even have a M9.
 
The S6 and M9 cost the same in the UK. It has some minor issues, just like the M9 is throttled and suffers from 2 year old screen tech, not to mention a camera that can't even compete with the mid end. The Alcatel Idol 3 has a better camera (and dual front facing speakers that sound just as good) - yes Alcatel, an unknown company, but year upon year HTC serve mediocrity in the camera department

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I don't know where you get your info from but the M9 is not throttled any more than the S6. In fact the M9 is a better gaming phone than both the S6 and the note 4. Intensive gaming on the M9 does not throttle no where near what the S6 does. The s810 does not get as hot as exynos in the S6. The camera is just software and is set to get an update soon. It may not be as good as the S6 but we will have to wait and see. The raw feature blows the S6 away. That screen you love on the S6 has both a bad pink screen problem and very bad burn in. Just 3 weeks from release the S6 and the edge on display at best buy had so much burn in on the screen that the only time you didn't see it was if the screen was black. I'm sorry but that amount of burn in 3 weeks was the worse I have ever seen and it was on all 6 models on display. I will take the M9 anyday over the S6.

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Battery Doctor is the biggest waste of time. Android already manages apps. Force closing them actually takes more battery and more heat from the SOC and drains more battery life in the process reloading the app again when it can just stay dormant in the background and load quickly when needed. All those battery savers on the playstore do more harm than good.
Battery Doctor controls the rate of battery recharge and helps prevent overcharging. By doing so, the heat generation rate is affected.
Based on real world experience over the past week. Forcing Stop for the apps that I listed in my original post reduces CPU effort and extends battery life before requiring a recharge. It significantly reduces heat creation. There are times when I choose NOT to run those apps if I expect some real work for a full day. While some may disagree with me, I stand by my opinion with regards to the original question.
The answer to the original question lies in the apps running which is an individual thing..
 
The camera issue is just software related and there is update on the way that fixes it. Beyond that, the M9 , even throttled as you believe, runs fast and smooth. Sense has leaped way ahead of Touchwiz. Even many of the S6 fanboys are installing Nova because they can't take Touchwiz. You don't have to like the M9. It is great to have different phones to choose from. Move on to that Acatel and be happy. I'm sure someone would quickly trade you an Acatel for the M9. Assuming you even have a M9.

Yes, that elusive update that will solve everything - the one every phone has in the pipeline, "just around the corner." Sure. The ui is great and build still the best around, but as an all round device, which is what flagships need to be nowadays, it's not. The camera is not good even for 2013, and the screen is the poorest of all flagships on the market - Anandtech found it worse than the M7 in fact. I would consider an M9 but not compared to it's direct competitors, iPhone 6 and S6, which have more to offer all round. The M9 in my opinion at this point, having pushed the boat out, can only compete on price, so I predict a significant drop in the coming weeks. It can't stay competitive priced the same as these devices, which is the situation in the UK at least.


So you think the S6 is a flagship worth it's cost? It cost more than the M9. Why don't you compare the cost of the S6 to to the S5? Last I remember, you could get two S5s for the price of one. Comparing the price of the latest to last years model is redundant. You are always gonna pay more for the latest. The S6/is loaded with its own issues- poor battery, lag, over heating, rattling home button, and worst of all, Touchwiz is nowhere near as polished and smooth as Sense 7.

As I said a couple of times the iPhone 6, S6 and M9 are roughly the same price here in the UK (the 16gb iPhone 6 being the cheapest because it's the 16gb model).
Sense and a metal body aren't enough to save a device. It just doesn't offer enough. The other complaints you have listed for the S6 are nonsense. The battery is average but at least it has quick charging out the box. HTC cut back on everything so you don't even get quick charging out the box

You need to look at the environment. There are some crazy good mid end devices with high end capability (Asus Zenfone 2, One Plus One, Alcatel Idol 3 etc). Not to mention all the stuff in China with Xiaomi. Devices like the M9 will get easily squeezed out because they've done little over last year. They need to be on top of their game. They're not! I'm glad you enjoy your phone but to me it's not good value. I love a metal phone and smooth UI which is probably why I'll get another iPhone 6, even though I prefer Android. On the Android side, I hate to admit it but the S6 is pretty compelling

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Battery Doctor controls the rate of battery recharge and helps prevent overcharging. By doing so, the heat generation rate is affected.
Based on real world experience over the past week. Forcing Stop for the apps that I listed in my original post reduces CPU effort and extends battery life before requiring a recharge. It significantly reduces heat creation. There are times when I choose NOT to run those apps if I expect some real work for a full day. While some may disagree with me, I stand by my opinion with regards to the original question.
The answer to the original question lies in the apps running which is an individual thing..

The charger that comes with the phone already does that and so does any certified Qualcomm 2.0 quick charge. You can stand by what you say all you want but force close apps like Battery Doctor serve no practical purpose.

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Yes, that elusive update that will solve everything - the one every phone has in the pipeline, "just around the corner." Sure. The ui is great and build still the best around, but as an all round device, which is what flagships need to be nowadays, it's not. The camera is not good even for 2013, and the screen is the poorest of all flagships on the market - Anandtech found it worse than the M7 in fact. I would consider an M9 but not compared to it's direct competitors, iPhone 6 and S6, which have more to offer all round. The M9 in my opinion at this point, having pushed the boat out, can only compete on price, so I predict a significant drop in the coming weeks. It can't stay competitive priced the same as these devices, which is the situation in the UK at least.




As I said a couple of times the iPhone 6, S6 and M9 are roughly the same price here in the UK (the 16gb iPhone 6 being the cheapest because it's the 16gb model).
Sense and a metal body aren't enough to save a device. It just doesn't offer enough. The other complaints you have listed for the S6 are nonsense. The battery is average but at least it has quick charging out the box. HTC cut back on everything so you don't even get quick charging out the box

You need to look at the environment. There are some crazy good mid end devices with high end capability (Asus Zenfone 2, One Plus One, Alcatel Idol 3 etc). Not to mention all the stuff in China with Xiaomi. Devices like the M9 will get easily squeezed out because they've done little over last year. They need to be on top of their game. They're not! I'm glad you enjoy your phone but to me it's not good value. I love a metal phone and smooth UI which is probably why I'll get another iPhone 6, even though I prefer Android. On the Android side, I hate to admit it but the S6 is pretty compelling

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The update i speak of is already out and still needs to make it's rounds. You are entitled to your opinions, but that us all you state, unfounded biased opinions. The M9 sales are doing fine in comparison to S6 sales at this point because sales for the S6 all falling way short. I predict you will see the typical buy one get one free soon. Maybe that same competition you speak of is killing your dear S6.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/20/samsung-galaxy-s6-bad-sales/
 
Sorry but the M9 sales will be no where near the S6. Even if Samsung did sell 10 million the first month. HTC will be very lucky to sell that many M9 the whole year. They've never been in a position to be in Samsung's ballpark even if they had a great product.

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The update i speak of is already out and still needs to make it's rounds. You are entitled to your opinions, but that us all you state, unfounded biased opinions. The M9 sales are doing fine in comparison to S6 sales at this point because sales for the S6 all falling way short. I predict you will see the typical buy one get one free soon. Maybe that same competition you speak of is killing your dear S6.

Samsung Silent On Disastrous Galaxy S6 Sales - Forbes

The hypocrisy is strong. Claims "unfounded biased opinions" then says S6 will sell worse than the M9 and at buy one get one free. Laughable. That article has no substance, which you are well aware of. You're getting upset over a smartphone.
 

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