If the hardware is just so-so, why all the exitement?

[SpaceHippie]

One thing i always said was that the Nexus was 1.5 ghz just underclocked to 1.2. Now hearing it can't even overclock, im a bit dissapointed.

 

[whiteshadow001]

One thing i always said was that the Nexus was 1.5 ghz just underclocked to 1.2. Now hearing it can't even overclock, im a bit dissapointed.

I saw one oced on youtube dude, you can definitely oc it

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[SpaceHippie]

I saw one oced on youtube dude, you can definitely oc it

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Really? Link plz. Not being rude. I really would like to see

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[SpaceHippie]

I do t like the "its a nexus" line. Sounds very "fruit-like" if you catch my drift

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[ragnarokx]

I do t like the "its a nexus" line. Sounds very "fruit-like" if you catch my drift

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The Nexus takes some of the best attributes of the iPhone and leaves some of the worst, so that's fine with me

 

[philly]

anyone who thinks this device is going to get updates straight from google.. is kidding themselves.

 

[ManBearPig618]

anyone who thinks this device is going to get updates straight from google.. is kidding themselves.

So you got confirmation that VZW is providing them?

 

[Premium1]

anyone who thinks this device is going to get updates straight from google.. is kidding themselves.

Because you used the device or are high up with verizon? Funny the testers get updates from google. I guess all the sudden it will change.

 

[philly]

So you got confirmation that VZW is providing them?

noone has confirmation either way. Samsung was the one who prepared the last update.

and I wouldnt be surprised if Verizon had a hand in it.. they have apps on the phone so the purity is broken.. and they like to put their hands in everything. This is the first Nexus device on Verizon.. so simple assumptions based on the past dont carry much weight.

I think it will go Google --> Samsung --> Verizon --> User

Look at the upgrade timetables that HTC and Motorola released.. half the timetable is Verizon internal testing and approval.. do you really think google will somehow beable to skirt around this?.. they cant even get their phone released before black friday

 

[ManBearPig618]

noone has confirmation either way. Samsung was the one who prepared the last update.

and I wouldnt be surprised if Verizon had a hand in it.. they have apps on the phone so the purity is broken.. and they like to put their hands in everything. This is the first Nexus device on Verizon.. so simple assumptions based on the past dont carry much weight.

I think it will go Google --> Samsung --> Verizon --> User

Look at the upgrade timetables that HTC and Motorola released.. half the timetable is Verizon internal testing and approval.. do you really think google will somehow beable to skirt around this?.. they cant even get their phone released before black friday

Because VZW had the ultimate say on the launch. Verizon has two apps on the phone that aren't baked into the OS...no "approval" is going to be needed. Sure, Samsung might occasionally be involved if needed, but this is a stock ICS experience. Like you said, no one has confirmation either way. I think that makes it pretty much nonsense to belittle someone for thinking Google will provide the updates (as history would suggest they would).

 

[CynicX]

noone has confirmation either way. Samsung was the one who prepared the last update.

and I wouldnt be surprised if Verizon had a hand in it.. they have apps on the phone so the purity is broken.. and they like to put their hands in everything. This is the first Nexus device on Verizon.. so simple assumptions based on the past dont carry much weight.

I think it will go Google --> Samsung --> Verizon --> User

Look at the upgrade timetables that HTC and Motorola released.. half the timetable is Verizon internal testing and approval.. do you really think google will somehow beable to skirt around this?.. they cant even get their phone released before black friday

The Motorola Xoom has been getting its updates from Google on Verizon's network. So this isn't Verizon's first time doing this. The Xoom is the Nexus of tablets.

I won't say Verizon doesn't test it prior to the release because I don't know. I do know however the Xoom is the first to receive updates a LONG time before other Honeycomb devices. There are some devices that are still running 3.1 and I've had 3.2 for a looonnngggg time.

I think once we get passed the initial release Samsung won't have a hand in it. I do believe we won't get updates quite as fast as the GSM users do but will get updates faster then any other phone running a skin.

Maybe I missed it but where does something say the current update is from Samsung?

 

[Poopai]

The Motorola Xoom has been getting its updates from Google on Verizon's network. So this isn't Verizon's first time doing this. The Xoom is the Nexus of tablets.

I won't say Verizon doesn't test it prior to the release because I don't know. I do know however the Xoom is the first to receive updates a LONG time before other Honeycomb devices. There are some devices that are still running 3.1 and I've had 3.2 for a looonnngggg time.

I think once we get passed the initial release Samsung won't have a hand in it. I do believe we won't get updates quite as fast as the GSM users do but will get updates faster then any other phone running a skin.

Maybe I missed it but where does something say the current update is from Samsung?

It should be noted, for those who like to spout about "optimization", that Honeycomb was "built for the Xoom's hardware" and yet most reviewers prefer many other tablets in terms of performance.

 

[CynicX]

It should be noted, for those who like to spout about "optimization", that Honeycomb was "built for the Xoom's hardware" and yet most reviewers prefer many other tablets in terms of performance.

Most tablets have had the same hardware for the most part. Compared to my roommates galaxy 10.1 I much prefer the Xoom simply for its pure honeycomb. I even prefer it over my gf's ipad2. While maybe in benchmarks I can't find any real performance differences.

I've been curious about the Asus esp. the new one but really I don't want more hardware, I want more stream lined software without all the extras. I don't know much about the asus's rooting process either but the xoom is a snap.

 

[TerryMasters]

It should be noted, for those who like to spout about "optimization", that Honeycomb was "built for the Xoom's hardware" and yet most reviewers prefer many other tablets in terms of performance.

I'd trade my Galaxy Tab for a Xoom anyday. The Xoom was heavy but at least it worked, I've sent back 2 10.1s so far where the power buttons magically became nonexistent "brightness" buttons and the screens lost input response completely - both of which were untouched, 0 installed apps factory stock tabs.

 

[Poopai]

I've been curious about the Asus esp. the new one but really I don't want more hardware, I want more stream lined software without all the extras.

I definately want more hardware, as my Xoom is certainly not a smooth experience, and that doesn't lend well for the Nexus, considering it has a similar resolution screen and specs.

 

[Qazme]

I like my Asus Transformer. Never had an issue with it handling just about anything without a single stutter. It's silky smooth, the Xoom and Tab I would imagine should be about the same. The hardware is pretty much as close to identical as you can get from the manufactures. It's also light and has a pretty nice shaped back for holding.

 

[revickulous2001]

Actually he's dead on. You're the one who does not know what he is talking about.

It's an inaccurate statement because the Nexus IS NOT first and foremost a developer phone as he said. So that's just false. The Nexus was and always has been meant to be a Google phone to display their latest work with the Android OS. Being a developer phone is a secondary prerogative of the Nexus line. So I will repeat to you as well... "Try again."

As for what you have said in previous posts, the GSM version of the Nexus doesn't have Google Wallet because so far Google Wallet has only rolled out in the United States. But be certain that Google will make every effort to have Google Wallet released on AT&T, Spring, And T-Mobile.

 

[CynicX]

It's an inaccurate statement because the Nexus IS NOT first and foremost a developer phone as he said. So that's just false. The Nexus was and always has been meant to be a Google phone to display their latest work with the Android OS. Being a developer phone is a secondary prerogative of the Nexus line. So I will repeat to you as well... "Try again."

As for what you have said in previous posts, the GSM version of the Nexus doesn't have Google Wallet because so far Google Wallet has only rolled out in the United States. But be certain that Google will make every effort to have Google Wallet released on AT&T, Spring, And T-Mobile.

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Nexus is a developers phone, matter of fact the GSM model is the only model that should be used for developing at least according to Google/android developing.

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The LTE model isn't because its not released yet. I'm not trying to be argumentative but this is the phone apps should be developed to work on if you are programming for ICS.

 

[Mapex]

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Nexus is a developers phone, matter of fact the GSM model is the only model that should be used for developing at least according to Google/android developing.

Building for devices | Android Open Source

The LTE model isn't because its not released yet. I'm not trying to be argumentative but this is the phone apps should be developed to work on if you are programming for ICS.

Let's clarify some terminology here.

The Nexus line of devices are to showcase the baseline requirements for future Android devices, especially in terms of software. This means they are usually bleeding edge in the software department with enough hardware to enable the use of the latest software's features. The hardware is minimalistic but well integrated.

That said, these phones are not "developer" phones. Because they are the baseline of how future Android devices should function, these Nexus and Google Experience devices lend themselves to being the best for app and OS/ROM developers; if your app works on the Nexus/GE device, chances are it will work on almost every other device made after it.

Yes, the devices are intended to fulfill the purpose of Android development, but they are also supposed to be the "gPhone" for the mainstream consumer, competing with the other Android devices on the market.

 

[CynicX]

Let's clarify some terminology here.

The Nexus line of devices are to showcase the baseline requirements for future Android devices, especially in terms of software. This means they are usually bleeding edge in the software department with enough hardware to enable the use of the latest software's features. The hardware is minimalistic but well integrated.

That said, these phones are not "developer" phones. Because they are the baseline of how future Android devices should function, these Nexus and Google Experience devices lend themselves to being the best for app and OS/ROM developers; if your app works on the Nexus/GE device, chances are it will work on almost every other device made after it.

Yes, the devices are intended to fulfill the purpose of Android development, but they are also supposed to be the "gPhone" for the mainstream consumer, competing with the other Android devices on the market.

Google has always intended their developer's phone to be a consumer product. Come on how is this argument? They used to use adp1 and adp2 prior to renaming it Nexus adp2 = android developers phone.

Plus I posted the developers link that says the galaxy nexus should be the only phone used for ics development. And no an app developed on different devices won't always work on other devices.

Next time you download an app read the reviews. Does "doesn't work on (insert phones name her) " sound familiar?