If the Note 5 has a sealed battery ...

[GaryFunk]

What are the advantages of an enclosed battery and no memory card slot?

I think you mean non-removable battery.

A non-removable battery means a thinner phone. I like that idea.

If the phone has 128gB of memory at a reasonable price, then I don't need a sdcard slot.

Internal memory will be much faster.

 

[Kelly Kearns]

I also like the removable battery, because sometimes in phones, you just need a battery pull..

 

[Adawg1203]

Then you haven't been reading this thread very carefully. Lots of people will jump ship, myself included.

OK let me clarify my statement. Note users will jump ship they always do and it happens with every manufacturer.

My point was the MAJORITY will not. So if Samsung plans on selling 5 million note 5's they will do just that. The defectors in this thread represent a microscopic number of sales that don't add up to anything. These losses won't be felt by Samsung. Remember, you may not go for a note 5 but an S6 user might, an iphone 6 plus user may.

So yes I've been reading the thread however, I understand the fact that when you say "a lot" of people plus yourself will jump ship, that isn't a quantifiable number because it represents so small a figure in the Note base tens of millions strong....

As I stated before there is no evidence that Samsung will even go the S6 route with the Note 5 based on the devices targeted audiences. Like everyone else I'll have to wait for future leaks to know for sure.

 

[patriotaki]

OK let me clarify my statement. Note users will jump ship they always do and it happens with every manufacturer.

My point was the MAJORITY will not. So if Samsung plans on selling 5 million note 5's they will do just that. The defectors in this thread represent a microscopic number of sales that don't add up to anything. These losses won't be felt by Samsung. Remember, you may not go for a note 5 but an S6 user might, an iphone 6 plus user may.

So yes I've been reading the thread however, I understand the fact that when you say "a lot" of people plus yourself will jump ship, that isn't a quantifiable number because it represents so small a figure in the Note base tens of millions strong....

As I stated before there is no evidence that Samsung will even go the S6 route with the Note 5 based on the devices targeted audiences. Like everyone else I'll have to wait for future leaks to know for sure.

I totally agree with you..but note series are for power users

You colleague may want to share something with you and doesnt want to share the files to the cloud even if its private ..maybe its some important files for work!
Only way to share files securely is by micro usb or sd card. Note series is for business! Its not a universal product line

 

[sweetypie31]

At this point I can't say whether I will or won't buy the note 5 until I actually see what Samsung offers. If they take away the removable battery, it's not a big deal for me. I would be bummed about losing expandable storage, but If they produce a great phone then I'm willing to give it a try. I said I'd never buy a all touchscreen phone or a phablet, but wouldn't you know I changed my mind.

 

[Adawg1203]

At this point I can't say whether I will or won't buy the note 5 until I actually see what Samsung offers. If they take away the removable battery, it's not a big deal for me. I would be bummed about losing expandable storage, but If they produce a great phone then I'm willing to give it a try. I said I'd never buy a all touchscreen phone or a phablet, but wouldn't you know I changed my mind.

I agree...

 

[Ntchwaidumela]

Frankly, I believe Sammy is going to continue to keep the S devices and the Note devices as separate and distinct entities. If they make the Note just a larger version of the S, they lose the appeal of the Note. Otherwise, they could do away with the Note series and just make an S Plus, like Apple did. Unless they keep the removable battery and micro SD features, they're going to lose out to LG and devices like the G4.

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[adegbenroagoro]

After being a long time S phone fan I've truly enjoyed my five months with the Note 4. I'd rather have both options available but place more importance on the external storage card slot. I'd definitely want the 128 gb version. That version of the S6 hasn't been readily available and the price is

Adegbenro Agoro. Galaxy Note 4.

 

[phone-a-holic]

If the note 5 has a sealed battery I will still consider it. However, if it doesn't have a micro SD then I am not getting it either. I like the flexibility of having my 128gb sd card. The 16gb phone or 32gb is just not enough especially since I use it for work too.

 

[patriotaki]

The new Galaxy Note will not have the same specs neither S Pen like the Note 5 rumor says.. That means they are going to release a bigger version of S6 edge , hopefully Note 5 keeps the removable battery and expandable storage

 

[millerwa76]

In the end, I don't think there will be too many people who care enough about a sealed battery or internal memory to sway their decision. If the phone is one of the superior products on the market, people will buy it.

The removable battery pack is a bit overrated, imo, for the simple fact that by and large, the battery that comes with the phone is most likely going to last you 1 year or 2 until you decide to upgrade to another model. Smartphones are basically "disposable" these days and the amount of people who keep them beyond the life of the contract with their carrier are significantly decreasing. So most people will probably never have to actually replace the battery. The only people I can see being affected are really heavy users who need to swap batteries halfway through the day.

As for the expandable memory, the benefit to this is mostly just in the up front cost of the phone (or your monthly payment if you're on a plan like AT&T Next), and it's really not that dramatic of a price increase. Using the current pricing for AT&T Next, an S6 with 32gb of storage will cost you $22.84 per month for 24 months. The 128gb S6 will cost $29.50/month. Over 2 years, that comes out to an additional $159.36 for the 128gb version. Comparatively, you'd probably spend around $100 for a 128gb card, so the cost difference is somewhere around $60 spread out over 24 months....or $2.50/month. If $2.50/month is putting you in a financial bind, you may want to reevaluate your finances instead of worrying about getting the latest and greatest phone.

Again, the only people I could see really being impacted by the lack of expandable memory are more "power users" who carry multiple micro sd cards on them throughout the day and swap them in and out based on their content. I think this applies to a relatively small portion of users, too, though.

Do I like having a removable battery and expandable memory? Sure. Would it actually sway my decision? Most likely, no.

 

[mrcil20]

People outside the US don't have plans to change their phones every 6 months and keep their phones at least for 2 years. I maintain, a replaceable battery is a must after 1 year. Sealed battery is a good thing only for big buck companies. I don't care about changing my battery during the day but I feel good knowing that I can replace it when I feel the need.

 

[mumfoau]

I think so long as it still supports fast charging and has at least the same size battery that the Note 4 has, it'll still be a viable option.

 

[CehowardNote7]

Yesterday I took a train for a two hour trip. It was spirit of the moment thing. Battery went down to 12%. Didn't have the charger, but I did have my spare battery. A 15 second swap out and I smiled big time looking at the 100%. Also, I have a 128GB SD card too. Now I MIGHT can live with a stronger battery that is sealed. But, I wilI not go for them taking both. No way. I would welcome 6 inches too.

Now, if they offer a 256gb at no extra cost, I could live with that.

 

[mumfoau]

A 6" screen would be too much for me.

 

[OceanView]

I hope it's not sealed. I do like the option to swap batteries as needed. If the 5 is sealed I will continue using my note 4 and not upgrade. I can't really imagine big improvements in the note 5 that will compel me to upgrade.

Posted on my Amazing Note 4!

 

[Ntchwaidumela]

I hope you've all noticed the pricing of the S6 with extended memory (if you can even get one). That, in itself, is enough to turn off Note buyers, especially since a "base" Note is already more expensive than the S.

 

[millerwa76]

People outside the US don't have plans to change their phones every 6 months and keep their phones at least for 2 years. I maintain, a replaceable battery is a must after 1 year. Sealed battery is a good thing only for big buck companies. I don't care about changing my battery during the day but I feel good knowing that I can replace it when I feel the need.

To be fair, I'm not familiar with any plans in the US that allows you to change phones every 6 months.....without paying some sort of penalty or upgrade fee. I had my S5 for 12 months when I traded in for the Note 4 and I had to pay AT&T $150, which was the amount of money that I still owed on my contract. My S5 is also the first smartphone I've had for less than 2 years. Prior to that, I had 2 different iPhones over the course of 5 years and I experienced minimal drain in the battery life with both of them. If there were a significant number of people who had battery problems after 1 year, I could understand being strongly opposed to a sealed battery. But I'd say the overwhelming majority of smartphone users throughout the world are going to get at least 18-24 months of solid battery life.

Also, sealed batteries can be replaced with minimal skill and effort should they go bad. I personally never replaced an iPhone battery, but I've got several friends who did and it seemed like a pretty simple process. They ordered the battery online (I believe for around $40) and it came with a small tool kit to help open up the phone and remove the original battery. I'd say it took roughly 5 minutes. I can't imagine that the process for a sealed Galaxy phone like the S6 (or future Notes, should they go that route) will be significantly different.

But if it's really that big of a deal, what's the difference in carrying a spare battery with you vs a portable charger? Both are going to take up roughly the same amount of space in your pocket. It's not like having a sealed battery makes it impossible to charge your phone if you don't have a wall outlet nearby.

 

[natehoy]

One significant advantage of a replaceable battery (as opposed to an external battery pack) is the ability to put in a larger battery. Using a ZeroLemon or similar battery does limit your choice of cases, and it certainly makes your phone larger and heavier, but it's a lot more convenient than having to carry around a battery and having a cable hanging out of your phone for an hour every now and then (not to mention the risk of damage to your USB port if you have to move around and use your phone with a USB cable sticking out of it).

I had an HTC Thunderbolt that I had to carry around for 2.5 years or so - and the battery life on the stock battery was measured in single-digit hours with minimal screen-on time. I would go from full battery to 15% in 2 hours if I used the screen continuously. I was able to add a $40 extended battery and that usually got me through a workday without sweating it too much. Not ideal, but it was a company issue phone and changing the phone was simply not an option.

Speaking of USB ports - if you manage somehow to hose yours, which happens, a replaceable battery means you can charge a spare using alternate means and swap batteries when your charge gets low. Certainly not all that convenient, but it sure beats replacing a very expensive phone because you managed to munge up the USB port.

It also means you can get into the case more easily and add wireless charging capability if your phone doesn't come with it natively, whereas a sealed case will involve plugging something into the USB port. And it generally (not always) means some components of the phone are easier / cheaper to repair.

 

[millerwa76]

Good comments.....definitely a couple things I never thought about or considered, especially the S6 being sealed much tighter than the iPhone and not as easy to open up to replace the battery. It's still not something that would turn me off from future Note phones (or any phone with a sealed battery, for that matter) because I've very rarely found myself running low on battery and not having a power source close by to plug into. And having gone through 2 iPhones, I guess I'm just used to it. But, like I said before, I could see the sealed battery being a big turn off for some power users who basically need 2 batteries to get through a day. To each his own.