Im Blown Away On How Fast This Phone Pushes Third Party E Mail..

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Its as fast as Blackberrys BIS System. Why is the Charge so much faster than the Thunderbolt. With the thunderbolt I seem to get my 3rd party e mail in batches with the Charge they fire out to the phone almost instantly. I also noticed when setting up the Charge there was a box to check for "push email" not fetch that I don't see on the bolt. Is Samuung providing a Blackberry type BIS system on the Charge?
 
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As I stated in another thread, I often get my Microsoft Exchange email a half second or so before my desktop Outlook client gets it. And that's with my phone accessing the Exchange server through the cell network / internet and the Outlook client going through ethernet on my office network.
 
And the Thunderbolt does have a push setting. It's in menu->More->Settings->Send & Receive->Update Schedule.

You can set two schedules: one for peak times and one for off peak times. One of the schedule choices is "Push".
 
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And the Thunderbolt does have a push setting. It's in menu->More->Settings->Send & Receive->Update Schedule.

You can set two schedules: one for peak times and one for off peak times. One of the schedule choices is "Push".

I'm not sure what you're seeing but my phone does not have a push option in the native email app.
 
The settings for the intervals are for the other emails like exchange. The gmail is already push. You mentioned 3rd party emails. Which one? When I used Touchdown it was pretty fast.
 
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I'm not sure what you're seeing but my phone does not have a push option in the native email app.

Well, on the HTC mail app (not gmail), when I press the menu button, I see a menu with 6 options: "Refresh", "Sort", "Compose", "Folders", "Account list", and "More".

If I press "More", I get a popup list with four entries: "New meeting invitation", "New account" "Out of office", and "Settings'.

If I press "Settings", I get a screen with my account name at the top and five options: "Account settings", "General settings", "Send & Receive", "Notification settings", and "Delete account".

If I press "Send & Receive", I see a screen with a whole bunch of settings, the first three of which are "Mail size limit", "Message format", and "Update schedule".

If I press "Update schedule", I see a screen with settings to describe when "Peak time" is, and then two settings to set the update schedule for "Peak times" and "Off-peak times".

If I press either of these, I get a popup list with "Push Mail", "Every 5 minutes", "Every 10 minutes", "Every 15 minutes", etc
 
rcpa there is not "PUSH MAIL" button what op is talking about is pushing all emails in and out via actively as it arrives. So your last line is not very factual being it says exactly this when you select "Peak times"

Peak Times:
Manual all way down to Once a day

There is NOTHING that says push mail. Settings you are referring to are just how often the mail app CHECKS for new messages. Pushing mail is completely different as in soon as you obtain a message it goes directly to whatever place you want it to show up. Reason obviously for this function is maybe you want to save battery life and don't receive a ton of emails from one or more specific accounts so you set it once a day. Well with push function if important email cones in before that timeframe you want it pushed to your email and get notification if you had that setup. Obviously it is a double edged sword because I have yahoo emails that in timestamp show they were sent to me 2-4 hours before I actually get them and timestamp on yahoo mail is 2-4 hours later. Gmail and other services are known for pushing emails very fast like microsoft exchange ect. I think you might just be thinking pushing is equal to receive frequency setting but it is not the same overall fuction.
 
And the Thunderbolt does have a push setting. It's in menu->More->Settings->Send & Receive->Update Schedule.
Yes. Probably many people didn't see the Push option because you have to scroll the screen downward to see that option at the very top.

-Frank
 
I don't see anything that says "Push Mail" in the HTC app.
It's there on the HTC app if you're accessing a Gmail account. But you do have to scroll the choices downward to see it becuase it is the very top listing.

If you're accessing a non-Gmail account via IMAP/POP it normally would not be there. It has to be supported by the server.

-Frank
 
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Opening another post about the same subject? We already talked about this on your previous post.

Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt.
 
Why do you keep making threads about the Charge in the Thunderbolt area? I don't care about the Charge. Please make Charge threads in that area so I can skip them.
 
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rcpa there is not "PUSH MAIL" button what op is talking about is pushing all emails in and out via actively as it arrives. So your last line is not very factual being it says exactly this when you select "Peak times"

Peak Times:
Manual all way down to Once a day

Maybe it's because I'm using a Microsoft Exchange account and you are using something else, but my list of choices for "Peak times" and "Off-peak times" is exactly the following:

Manual
Push mail
Every 5 minutes
Every 10 minutes
Every 15 minutes
Every 30 minutes
Every hour
Every 2 hours
Every 4 hours
Once a day

During "Peak times", I have mine set to "Push mail" and like I said, I often hear the notification from my phone a half second or so before I see the message on my desktop Outlook client.

Maybe that setting is only available for Microsoft Exchange accounts.
 
Maybe it's because I'm using a Microsoft Exchange account and you are using something else, but my list of choices for "Peak times" and "Off-peak times" is exactly the following:

Manual
Push mail
Every 5 minutes
Every 10 minutes
Every 15 minutes
Every 30 minutes
Every hour
Every 2 hours
Every 4 hours
Once a day

During "Peak times", I have mine set to "Push mail" and like I said, I often hear the notification from my phone a half second or so before I see the message on my desktop Outlook client.

Maybe that setting is only available for Microsoft Exchange accounts.

See on the Charge there is none of that its either manual or automatic push and when set to automatic it works like Blackberry's BIS system the e mails push right away this is very interesting. Here is a picture of the only options you have on the charge. The Thunderbolt seems to send mail in batches in the time interval selected and the Charge sends them in real time like you would get them on your PC like a Blackberry.
 
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See on the Charge there is none of that its either manual or automatic push and when set to automatic it works like Blackberry's BIS system the e mails push right away this is very interesting. Here is a picture of the only options you have on the charge. The Thunderbolt seems to send mail in batches in the time interval selected and the Charge sends them in real time like you would get them on your PC like a Blackberry.
It is useless to compare mail options between different types of accounts. IMAP, POP, Gmail, Exchange, Activesync, all will have different options. It depends on the type of account, the server's capability and configuration!

-Frank
 
It is useless to compare mail options between different types of accounts. IMAP, POP, Gmail, Exchange, Activesync, all will have different options. It depends on the type of account, the server's capability and configuration!

-Frank

These are just free AOL accounts Frank.
 
These are just free AOL accounts Frank.
The provider name itself doesn't really matter. Providers usually provide for different forms of access, including AOL. Often the providers offer various forms of access, such as IMAP, POP, Exchange, and Activesync. All to the same email "account" - user's choice of type of access. In order for the client-side "frequency" choices to be the same between individuals, the type of access has to be the same, and it has to be supported (configured) on that specific server.

Gmail is one notable exception because it uses an emulated form of Activesync/Exchange to accomplish the Activesync functionality. Also, the Push functionality in Gmail/Google would NOT work without using the specifically modified Gmail client app. So, Gmail is unique in this arena when using an Android phone.

Some other providers are starting to jump on the "push" bandwagon by using slightly different techniques. Blackberry doesn't count bedause BB requires a specifically licensed BIS server from BB - nothing "generic" will work for BB style access via BIS.

-Frank
 
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