iPhone X hype train

[j_hansen]

Have to agree with the money side of the argument
, I now have 2 Note 8 and they didn't cost me more than 1 iPhone plus an additional wireless charger

 

[thecaringkind]

Well I disagree that you claim you can judge a phone without even using it.

You seem to think that because the Note 'offers more' that by definition means it's better, which I'd completely disagree with. More =/= better. If the features aren't useful, don't work well, are intrusive, slow the product down etc then I'd argue that those features are detrimental to the product and the phone would be better off without them.




Sure features matter and those features have to be weighted to the device overall. They don't have equal weighting between devices and features you might weigh highly is something another customer couldn't care less about, so who's right?





You keep banging on about 'offering more' when you should be banging on about 'offering better'. Everything and the kitchen sink doesn't mean it's a better product. Never has, never will be. iPhones didn't become (and remain) popular because they do everything, they're popular because everything they do, they do it extremely well.

And saying you don't need an iPhone X is a pretty ridiculous statement. An iPhone X user could just say they don't need to use a Note 8 to know it's inferior to the iPhone X, I guess that'd be right too?

I agree with your general premise that more features in and of themselves don't necessarily make a product better, although I'd rather have them than not. Your logic can probably be applied to the X as well. Sometimes things do come down to personal tatste. I'm curious though, you seem somewhat strident in your arguments for Apple. I take it that you prefer their products over others? Apple does some things very well, no denying that. Would you say that it is a fair statement that Samsung did an excellent job with the overall package of the Note 8? One of the things that sort of sticks in my craw is that Apple sets the standard so be to speak with their smartphones and in 2017 I think that is objectively not the case.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

I agree with your general premise that more features in and of themselves don't necessarily make a product better, although I'd rather have them than not. Your logic can probably be applied to the X as well. Sometimes things do come down to personal tatste. I'm curious though, you seem somewhat strident in your arguments for Apple. I take it that you prefer their products over others? Apple does some things very well, no denying that. Would you say that it is a fair statement that Samsung did an excellent job with the overall package of the Note 8? One of the things that sort of sticks in my craw is that Apple sets the standard so be to speak with their smartphones and in 2017 I think that is objectively not the case.

No, don't own an iPhone haven't owned one in years. The only phone I own is the Note 8.

Would I say Samsung did an 'excellent' job with the overall package of the Note 8? No, I wouldn't say that. I'd say it's good, not excellent.

 

[madgalaxy]

This has been discussed in other threads, not sure way the OP felt another was needed...

I have BOTH devices and BOTH are fantastic! The iOS vs Android and fanboyism in general is getting to be an old and stale topic. I love gadgets and love to see the innovation and competitiveness in the industry.

 

[bassjo]

Sounds like OP doesn't have it.

One thing that I've noticed that android fans just simply don't get is you can't compare spec sheets of a phone and declare one a winner over the other. You need to use the phones, experience them and then you can make a decision. Phones are more than just a sum of their parts, which is why iOS and Apple products are so highly rated and so liked by their owners. There's an elegance and simplicity to them that just isn't matched by competing offerings. Rattling off a list of features the Note 8 has vs the iPhone X has doesn't mean anything because one thing that users would rate the iPhone infinitely higher on is iMessage, to which android simply does not have an answer for. Add to that, apps on iOS are *still* better than their android counterparts. Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook etc all run much better on iOS than on android and as an android user, it's extremely frustrating to use the android version of apps and feel like the unwanted step son.

Now those things aren't on a spec list. They're not an advertised feature like 'Snapchat runs better on iPhone' but they're relevant and only discovered when you use both devices/platforms together.

Is the Note 8 better than the iPhone X? I don't know, I don't have the iPhone X, but I can say with confidence now that the Note 8 isn't the best phone I've owned, at least in my subjective experience. The hardware of the Note 8 I think is unmatched and I don't think I've used or held a phone with more stunning hardware, but the software experience for me is simply not there. It's not a 2017 phone experience. And to me software > hardware every time.

I don't own an X but I do own a iPhone 7plus and I can say unequivocally that I've by far enjoyed my experience with Android and the Note. Are there apps that I used on my iPhone that either are not in the android ecosystem or not as polished yes... But overall from a standpoint where the iPhone used to reign supreme, my Note just works. No lag, no stuttering, no force closes, it simply just works. My iPhone 7plus, not so much. I've had apps force close or refuse to open. Pandora sucks on the iPhone, I jump into my truck plug in my iPhone and maybe Pandora starts 5 minutes later, even while still connected to my home wifi it doesn't always work properly. Repeat the same thing with my Note 8 and the moment I plug my phone into the USB C cable and Android Auto starts, Pandora is ready to go. This is just one of many issues I've experienced, ymmv.

 

[thecaringkind]

This has been discussed in other threads, not sure way the OP felt another was needed...

I have BOTH devices and BOTH are fantastic! The iOS vs Android and fanboyism in general is getting to be an old and stale topic. I love gadgets and love to see the innovation and competitiveness in the industry.

Can't disagree. And it has been discussed to death. However I did have an overall point in that Apple benefits from allot of hype in general for the X which if you really take a hard look? It's a Samsung phone with an ugly notch, better speakers and missing an S pen compared to the Note 8. Just saying

 

[thecaringkind]

No, don't own an iPhone haven't owned one in years. The only phone I own is the Note 8.

Would I say Samsung did an 'excellent' job with the overall package of the Note 8? No, I wouldn't say that. I'd say it's good, not excellent.

You haven't owned an iPhone in years... You only have a Note 8 my friend I think you got lost on your way to the iMore board. Seriously?!? How can you make somewhat compelling albeit dogmatic arguments for a platform you don't use or support?!

Hey it's a free country, you can do what you like but your position on the discussion is rather...odd considering your current circumstances. You use the Note 8 every day but you want to extoll the virtues of Apple...

Priceless.

I wish you and your Note 8 well.

 

[kj11]

Would I say Samsung did an 'excellent' job with the overall package of the Note 8? No, I wouldn't say that. I'd say it's good, not excellent.

Everyone is entitled to their option, I respect that and I'd never say someone's opinion is wrong, but you sir are wrong.

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

You haven't owned an iPhone in years... You only have a Note 8 my friend I think you got lost on your way to the iMore board. Seriously?!? How can you make somewhat compelling albeit dogmatic arguments for a platform you don't use or support?!

Hey it's a free country, you can do what you like but your position on the discussion is rather...odd considering your current circumstances. You use the Note 8 every day but you want to extoll the virtues of Apple...

Priceless.

I wish you and your Note 8 well.

Go ahead and find my posts on iMore - good luck with that as I don't have any. Been posting on Android Central discussing the multitude of android phones I've owned for years now. So you can try to paint me as some sort of Apple spy or whatever you want but the fact is I'm a long, long time android user, currently with the Note 8.

And I'm not extolling the virtues of anything. Just countering the blind fanboyism from someone who's making claims about a device they haven't used.

I don't know if the iPhone X is a good phone or not and neither do you. You can pretend like you do know, but the fact is you don't.

You can try to pretend like you know what you're talking about, posting about the features of the two, but you don't.

Everyone is entitled to their option, I respect that and I'd never say someone's opinion is wrong, but you sir are wrong.

So I'm wrong in thinking that the Note 8 is a good phone, but not an excellent one?

Wait, aren't Apple fans supposed to be the ones who are sheep?

 

[kj11]

don't.


So I'm wrong in thinking that the Note 8 is a good phone, but not an excellent one?

Wait, aren't Apple fans supposed to be the ones who are sheep?

So anyone who this the Note 8 is excellent is a sheep?

In that case, bbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Jewels81]

So anyone who this the Note 8 is excellent is a sheep?

In that case, bbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Lol

 

[I Can Be Your Hero]

So anyone who this the Note 8 is excellent is a sheep?

In that case, bbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Not at all but you're the one saying I'm wrong for my opinion. Basically saying I can't think freely about the phone.

 

[thecaringkind]

Go ahead and find my posts on iMore - good luck with that as I don't have any. Been posting on Android Central discussing the multitude of android phones I've owned for years now. So you can try to paint me as some sort of Apple spy or whatever you want but the fact is I'm a long, long time android user, currently with the Note 8.

And I'm not extolling the virtues of anything. Just countering the blind fanboyism from someone who's making claims about a device they haven't used.

I don't know if the iPhone X is a good phone or not and neither do you. You can pretend like you do know, but the fact is you don't.

You can try to pretend like you know what you're talking about, posting about the features of the two, but you don't.




So I'm wrong in thinking that the Note 8 is a good phone, but not an excellent one?

Wait, aren't Apple fans supposed to be the ones who are sheep?

My friend. I absolutely know what I'm talking about. I ACTUALLY own phones from both platforms, unlike yourself. You can call me a fanboy that's fine, but you have yet to explain your position on Apple yet YOU OWN A NOTE 8. Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[Jewels81]

Can't tell me that Samsung and Apple ain't the most popular rivals with as much as people go back and forth on the subject lol

 

[jjinal]

I appreciate the OPs opinion but this post is a complete waste of time and based purely on opinion. I chose the Note 8 over the X for now but make no mistake, the iPhone X is a badass piece of technology.

 

[kj11]

Not at all but you're the one saying I'm wrong for my opinion. Basically saying I can't think freely about the phone.

Oh great and wise Shepherd, please lead my flock and me to the promised Land of phones that you, in your infinite wisdom, find to be "excellent" so that we can leave this inferior note 8 behind. After all, you CAN be my hero.

 

[j_hansen]

Food fight... Yeah

 

[Jewels81]

Popcorn anyone? Lol

 

[jj2339]

Oh great and wise Shepherd, please lead my flock and me to the promised Land of phones that you, in your infinite wisdom, find to be "excellent" so that we can leave this inferior note 8 behind. After all, you CAN be my hero.

Sure, put words in his mouth.

Agree with poster up thread, fanboyism is annoying.

 

[Deke218]

Let's settle this once and for all.

This is a Note 8 forum

Note 8 wins.