Is 4GB of RAM large enough for pixel 3 and XL

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Does anyone honestly think that Google trying to solidify themselves as an up-and-coming smartphone manufacturer that can be reputable as heck would put something subpar out there after putting so much effort into it?

Well, the Pixel 2 screens were not exactly awesome, so...

Also, two words: Planned obsolescence.
 
I don't see any reason they couldn't have had 6 instead of 4. Will it run OK sure it will.
For all the complaining about Samsung my s9 is still plenty fast after all these months with just 4 gigs of ram. Same goes for my OG pixel it still runs great. But with them doing a price increase they should've started at 6 gigs. We all know that's where we heading is 6 gigs for the baseline.

Google is trying to follow the same business model as apple. Present it as ultra premium and charge more for less.

No doubt the camera is the best on any pixel 1 2 or 3. But after that not so much.
Samsung gets put down for all the "bloat" but in reality most can be turned off or uninstalled. And there is actually a few useful things that Google just don't see fit to offer. Until they decide to just copy it after a year or 2.
 
Personally I don't plan to get a pixel because I don't like stock android, or being first to experience a new wave of bugs with updates.

However I can still say that I don't think more than 4GB of RAM is needed, Android and apps aren't suddenly using twice the RAM they did a year ago.

Still would of been nice to see more simply due to the cost, not good when similar priced flagships have better specs and even some of the cheaper mid range devices look better on paper.
 
Does anyone honestly think that Google trying to solidify themselves as an up-and-coming smartphone manufacturer that can be reputable as heck would put something subpar out there after putting so much effort into it?

Well I can for sure say that my pixel 2 wouldn't pull as good a signal as my s8 and the water resistance wasn't as good.
So no I don't believe they are putting out the BEST product they could. But nobody else is ether. Why would they ?? I mean the BEST product would still be going strong 2, 3, 4 years down the road and they for sure don't won't that ... everything in this country is made to last only so long. Ever wonder why the fridge your grandma has from 1950 is still running ?meanwhile the one you just paid 2500 for won't last 10 years without multiple visits from the repair man? Big companies aren't stupid.
 
Will those saying more RAM unnecessary for the update lifespan of the P3s also say it's unnecessary (and needlessly added) when the P4s or P5s come out with 6gb or 8gbs of RAM?

Bonus question: How many will spend more if more RAM is an upgrade option on future Pixels?
 
I don't see any reason they couldn't have had 6 instead of 4. Will it run OK sure it will.
For all the complaining about Samsung my s9 is still plenty fast after all these months with just 4 gigs of ram.

Well do you feel the same about the S9? Both devices are 2018 flagship devices. If you do, why did you buy it with 4GB of RAM?
 
Will those saying more RAM unnecessary for the update lifespan of the P3s also say it's unnecessary (and needlessly added) when the P4s or P5s come out with 6gb or 8gbs of RAM?

Bonus question: How many will spend more if more RAM is an upgrade option on future Pixels?

I'm not saying I wouldn't take it if it's there, but if that was the ONLY upgrade for the Pixel 4 or 5, then no I wouldn't upgrade. But that won't happen, because like me, no one would buy it simply for a RAM upgrade. It'll have a newer processor, some software options that won't be available on previous models, camera improvements, etc.

But if you recall, a few years back one OEM put more RAM in their offering, but then aggressively limited the number of apps that could stay open (I'm thinking it was OnePlus). That was a seriously dumb move, either you keep the same RAM and limit the number of apps, or increase the amount of RAM and let the Android OS determine how many apps it can run. So if they're just putting X amount of RAM in to pad the spec sheet, then it's all about bragging rights and to push the maybe buyers into the affirmative camp aka "Everything else is the same but it's got more RAM!" My honest opinion, if it runs fluidly, I wouldn't care how much RAM it has. At some point it'll need to be upgraded anyways, so I'll upgrade.

Now here's a question for the ones reading. A lot of people are complaining about Google shortchanging us on the amount of RAM. Some of it's coming from people who upgrade yearly or even more often, so "future proofing" shouldn't be a worry for them. Some of it's coming from people who are on much older phones, as far back as the Nexus 5, which had 2GB of RAM. So if they're worried about it, why didn't they upgrade sooner? That's a 5 year old phone, and there were 3 other models of newer and more affordable Nexus phones available. So if they're able to make it to now with 2GB of RAM, I'd imagine 4GB and the newer processors should hold them over ok until their next upgrade.
 
I'm not saying I wouldn't take it if it's there, but if that was the ONLY upgrade for the Pixel 4 or 5, then no I wouldn't upgrade. But that won't happen, because like me, no one would buy it simply for a RAM upgrade. It'll have a newer processor, some software options that won't be available on previous models, camera improvements, etc.

But if you recall, a few years back one OEM put more RAM in their offering, but then aggressively limited the number of apps that could stay open (I'm thinking it was OnePlus). That was a seriously dumb move, either you keep the same RAM and limit the number of apps, or increase the amount of RAM and let the Android OS determine how many apps it can run. So if they're just putting X amount of RAM in to pad the spec sheet, then it's all about bragging rights and to push the maybe buyers into the affirmative camp aka "Everything else is the same but it's got more RAM!" My honest opinion, if it runs fluidly, I wouldn't care how much RAM it has. At some point it'll need to be upgraded anyways, so I'll upgrade.

Now here's a question for the ones reading. A lot of people are complaining about Google shortchanging us on the amount of RAM. Some of it's coming from people who upgrade yearly or even more often, so "future proofing" shouldn't be a worry for them. Some of it's coming from people who are on much older phones, as far back as the Nexus 5, which had 2GB of RAM. So if they're worried about it, why didn't they upgrade sooner? That's a 5 year old phone, and there were 3 other models of newer and more affordable Nexus phones available. So if they're able to make it to now with 2GB of RAM, I'd imagine 4GB and the newer processors should hold them over ok until their next upgrade.

On point
 
I don't see any reason they couldn't have had 6 instead of 4. Will it run OK sure it will.
For all the complaining about Samsung my s9 is still plenty fast after all these months with just 4 gigs of ram. Same goes for my OG pixel it still runs great. But with them doing a price increase they should've started at 6 gigs. We all know that's where we heading is 6 gigs for the baseline.

Google is trying to follow the same business model as apple. Present it as ultra premium and charge more for less.

No doubt the camera is the best on any pixel 1 2 or 3. But after that not so much.
Samsung gets put down for all the "bloat" but in reality most can be turned off or uninstalled. And there is actually a few useful things that Google just don't see fit to offer. Until they decide to just copy it after a year or 2.
You say the way things are going6 would be the Baseline... The way camera phones were going for a bit I thought 100 megapixels was going to be the Baseline. Seems like we've back down to around 12. It got crazy up to round 21 for a bit.
 
I was surprised for a flagship, my G4Plus is two years old mid range and has 4 gig.
As said, its okay for now..
 
You say the way things are going6 would be the Baseline... The way camera phones were going for a bit I thought 100 megapixels was going to be the Baseline. Seems like we've back down to around 12. It got crazy up to round 21 for a bit.

That's true. I don't think we'll be going to less ram though. Ram is the one spec that's consistently been going up since my first computer started out with 128 mb. I was told then "oh you'll never need more than that. LOL.
 
Well do you feel the same about the S9? Both devices are 2018 flagship devices. If you do, why did you buy it with 4GB of RAM?

I do feel that way about the s9.
But I only ended up on the s9 because my pixel 2 didn't pull in a very strong signal. And the pixel 3 wasn't out yet. And I broke my s8. So the s9 was the only thing going at the time in the size I wanted. But I will say other than the camera being not quiet as good as the pixel 2 it's been overall a better phone. For the way I use it.
 
Undoubtedly, 4 GB is not sufficient. Google dropped the ball on this.

I usually download and review large spreadsheets while on the go. Often, I am on call with someone and usually with my emails on and documents open.

Last year's Pixel 2, with 4GB of RAM, was showing signs of lagging. This was highly reported and Google knew about it

Yes, the new HTC team has brought over bad habits from HTC devices. This will be an Achilles heel for Google Mobile phone division.
 
I guess It should be fine for Normal usage,
unless you want keep lots of App or Large Application on the memory to continue where you left or quicker launch time.
 
Undoubtedly, 4 GB is not sufficient. Google dropped the ball on this.

I usually download and review large spreadsheets while on the go. Often, I am on call with someone and usually with my emails on and documents open.

Last year's Pixel 2, with 4GB of RAM, was showing signs of lagging. This was highly reported and Google knew about it

Yes, the new HTC team has brought over bad habits from HTC devices. This will be an Achilles heel for Google Mobile phone division.

So how do we explain lag on phones with 6GB of ram?

HTC was not on board for the development of the P3
 
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Well I can for sure say that my pixel 2 wouldn't pull as good a signal as my s8 and the water resistance wasn't as good.
So no I don't believe they are putting out the BEST product they could. But nobody else is ether. Why would they ?? I mean the BEST product would still be going strong 2, 3, 4 years down the road and they for sure don't won't that ... everything in this country is made to last only so long. Ever wonder why the fridge your grandma has from 1950 is still running ?meanwhile the one you just paid 2500 for won't last 10 years without multiple visits from the repair man? Big companies aren't stupid.

Weird.. I had zero issue with signal on my Pixel 2 XL. Pulling consistent speeds around town on Verizon. Just as good as my previous S8.
 
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