Is the Incredible better then the EVO 4G?

[Ky1e.YC]

Incredible vs. EVO

what a slim wonder woman on the left and what a man-up superman on the right

 

[tony bag o donuts]

I say who cares, both devices rock.
Both are 10x than any blackberry.
If the iphone was called a palm touch they wouldn't sell as much (cause if it's apple, everyone drinks the koolaid)

 

[Gekko]

>what a slim wonder woman on the left and what a man-up superman on the right

little brother and BIG BROTHER.

this graphic doesn't even do it justice. i was in BB and compared an EVO dummy with the Incredible and the Incredible was just so tiny in comparison. the display width differential was really shocking. YET - the EVO itself is not that much bigger. so you get a lot of display bang for your device size buck.

 

[Gekko]

I say who cares, both devices rock.
Both are 10x than any blackberry.
If the iphone was called a palm touch they wouldn't sell as much (cause if it's apple, everyone drinks the koolaid)

i care because i want THE BIGGEST, BADDEST, AND BEST!

 

[csierra72]

what a slim wonder woman on the left and what a man-up superman on the right

LOL, I don't know why but it made me think of these two...

 

[ashykat]

You're probably referring to the PCWorld Evo review which says it's second to the Incredible as the best smartphone. There are only 6 comments so far on that review (me being one of them) and every single one is saying the same thing this forum is. The only thing the Incredible has on the Evo is the AMOLED (which is subjective, they are horrible in sunlight but color saturation can be better) and the 8GB internal memory as opposed to the Evo's 1 GB. Having said that, the Evo has a lot more on the Incredible. Now if you do the Verizon to Sprint comparison, I would say VZW is a better network, but that's where the advantages end. They're more expensive, their customer service is horrible, and they are not flexible at all with their policies. VZW would charge you to breathe if they could. I'll stick with Sprint thank you very much.

 

[tony bag o donuts]

i care because i want THE BIGGEST, BADDEST, AND BEST!

true.
I am just saying we android users (or in my case recent convert) should be happy in general that these devices are coming out and are well designed.

I just visited CB for old times sake and the new flagship device has 512mb of memory LOL.

Oh and I like how they always say this is the device that xx model should have been.

Android just flat out rules and I for one think you can't go wrong with either device.

 

[atomicdog21]

The best part about HTC putting out amazing phones, which the Incredible and EVO both are, is that the expectation for what constitutes a decent phone constantly increases. Samsung is putting out what appears to be a very good phone in the Galaxy S, even if it looks like a jacked up iClone. Anyone with either phone should consider themselves lucky.
That being said, there isn't even a question that the EVO is superior in every way. It can do everything the Incredible can, plus a lot more. IT IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA! ALL FLYING THE BANNER OF VERIZON SHALL CRUMBLE AS DUST IN IT'S WAKE! MWAHAHAHAHAHA...
j/k. The incredible is awesome too. In fact, it is appropriately named.

I do have an actual question though. I'm really into a great mobile browsing experience, and had heard that the EVO was going to have a new and unique browser. Can anyone confirm?

 

[atomicdog21]

true.
I am just saying we android users (or in my case recent convert) should be happy in general that these devices are coming out and are well designed.

I just visited CB for old times sake and the new flagship device has 512mb of memory LOL.

Oh and I like how they always say this is the device that xx model should have been.

Android just flat out rules and I for one think you can't go wrong with either device.

Follow up post: So true about Crackberry! scroll down to the bottome of your screen and you'll see all news from the sister sites of AC for other devices. The news right now on CB says,"new premium clock app" and "we unbox a Bold 9700 AND it's WHITE!" I remember when the 9700 came out.

A year ago.

 

[RayStinkle]

to you future EVO owners, i say good luck, because i hate the nexus one screen size already because i can JUST barely reach up with my thumb to pull down the notification shade/window with one hand (which is something that you do A LOT of on android). and there is no way any human's thunb is gonna be able to reach that far up one-handed. might be a 2-handed device in a lot of cases!

 

[tony bag o donuts]

Follow up post: So true about Crackberry! scroll down to the bottome of your screen and you'll see all news from the sister sites of AC for other devices. The news right now on CB says,"new premium clock app" and "we unbox a Bold 9700 AND it's WHITE!" I remember when the 9700 came out.

A year ago.

mwahahaha!!!!!

 

[bubbatex]

Still hard to determine until you put it in your hand. I went to T-M to see the HD2. It's not too bad, but it is still big!

 

[bubbatex]

i care because i want THE BIGGEST, BADDEST, AND BEST!

Coming from a guy who loved the Centro?!?

 

[Rizop]

I guess I'll play devil's advocate here for the sake of argument. Here are some reasons why one might consider the Incredible better than the EVO (I don't necessarily agree with these, I'm just listing them):

* Size - some people may prefer the smaller dimensions of the Incredible

* AMOLED screen is preferred by some

* Monthly cost - For those who use little to no texting (<250 messages/month), Verizon would only cost $70 or $75 / month depending on which texting option you choose. Sprint+EVO would require $80/month for the Everything Data + Premium Data add-on (yes, I realize you get unlimited texting with Sprint's plan, but to those who don't need it, it's a waste). With the mandatory $10/month fee, Sprint is no longer the cheapest option for everyone.

* Speed - we don't really know the answer to this yet. But it is certainly possible that the EVO in its current state is slower than the Incredible. The processor is the same, but the software is not. We don't really know. For all we know the kernels are quite a bit different because of the WiMax radio support (anyone who has done any Linux kernel development in the embedded world knows that sometimes vendor drivers can force you to switch your kernel base or require you to forward or back-port it). This is yet to be determined, but you guys certainly can't say that there is "no way" that the Incredible is faster. Software matters a lot.

The last thing I'll point out is that a lot of people probably won't care about the advantages that the EVO has over the Incredible:

* WiFi hotspot support: Largely irrelevant to many because not many will pay $30/month for it.

* Screen size: Seen as a disadvantage to some

* 4G/WiMax support: Not many cities have support for this yet. Based on the reviews so far, even 4G cities have spotty coverage (especially indoors). Finally, in many reviews the speeds aren't as high as Sprint is claiming for "typical" performance. Plus, given that 4G is such a huge drain on the battery, many will be forced to only using it occasionally.

* Front camera: A lot of people remain skeptical on video conferencing ever taking off

* HDMI out: This is another one of those features that will excite some users, but leave others scratching their head as to why they would ever really want it

That said, I'll *probably* end up getting the EVO myself, as I have access to a family plan that makes it more affordable. If I were on my own getting an individual plan, I'd likely go for the Incredible.

Great post

 

[FreezingD]

... I would say VZW is a better network, but that's where the advantages end. They're more expensive, their customer service is horrible, and they are not flexible at all with their policies. VZW would charge you to breathe if they could. I'll stick with Sprint thank you very much.

I agree that VZW would charge you to breathe if they could. But I found found them to be very flexible, and their customer service to also be very good. Maybe they are flexible because I'm never delinquent paying my bill?

It would have been a very, very difficult decision if the EVO had been available on VZW. I probably would have had to wait to hold both in my hand before I made my decision, same as if the N1 had been available. The Incredible has no other competition on VZW right now, so the choice was very clear. And I am very, extremely happy with this device.

 

[Septro]

I guess I'll play devil's advocate here for the sake of argument. Here are some reasons why one might consider the Incredible better than the EVO (I don't necessarily agree with these, I'm just listing them):

* Size - some people may prefer the smaller dimensions of the Incredible

* AMOLED screen is preferred by some

* Monthly cost - For those who use little to no texting (<250 messages/month), Verizon would only cost $70 or $75 / month depending on which texting option you choose. Sprint+EVO would require $80/month for the Everything Data + Premium Data add-on (yes, I realize you get unlimited texting with Sprint's plan, but to those who don't need it, it's a waste). With the mandatory $10/month fee, Sprint is no longer the cheapest option for everyone.

* Speed - we don't really know the answer to this yet. But it is certainly possible that the EVO in its current state is slower than the Incredible. The processor is the same, but the software is not. We don't really know. For all we know the kernels are quite a bit different because of the WiMax radio support (anyone who has done any Linux kernel development in the embedded world knows that sometimes vendor drivers can force you to switch your kernel base or require you to forward or back-port it). This is yet to be determined, but you guys certainly can't say that there is "no way" that the Incredible is faster. Software matters a lot.

The last thing I'll point out is that a lot of people probably won't care about the advantages that the EVO has over the Incredible:

* WiFi hotspot support: Largely irrelevant to many because not many will pay $30/month for it.

* Screen size: Seen as a disadvantage to some

* 4G/WiMax support: Not many cities have support for this yet. Based on the reviews so far, even 4G cities have spotty coverage (especially indoors). Finally, in many reviews the speeds aren't as high as Sprint is claiming for "typical" performance. Plus, given that 4G is such a huge drain on the battery, many will be forced to only using it occasionally.

* Front camera: A lot of people remain skeptical on video conferencing ever taking off

* HDMI out: This is another one of those features that will excite some users, but leave others scratching their head as to why they would ever really want it

That said, I'll *probably* end up getting the EVO myself, as I have access to a family plan that makes it more affordable. If I were on my own getting an individual plan, I'd likely go for the Incredible.

*Size - some people prefer flip phones and sliders too. Some prefer to read fully presented webpages and use a keyboard with more natural spacing. EVO is better.

*AMOLED - Have you tried to use the Incredible screen in open sunlight?? Yea I love brighter colors if I have to use two hands to provide shade for my phone to read it /sarcasm off. EVO wins

*Cost - Do an apples to apples comparison of equal plans and Sprint is consistently cost-competitive against other carriers. 450minutes and unlimited data, text = $10 diff to the benefit of Sprint versus Verizon. EVO wins.

*Speed - No we don't know the answer yet so why don't we just not comment?

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As for your other points:

*Wifi HotSpot - Wherever your laptop is at, do you have your phone with you? The answer is yes. And since I pay $59.99 for a 5GB capped Mobile broadband for my lappy from Verizon - $29.99 just saved me 30bucks with Sprint with no bandwidth caps. So yea Verizon can SUCK IT.

*Screen Size - yea and chicks say size doesn't matter too /sarcasm off

*4G/WiMax - since most the cities haven't been fully lit up yet - let's hold off on the sniping since every review has shown 4G to be faster than 3G in all cases. Whether it is reaching Sprint's advertised rate versus reality, that's yet to be told. But hey don't listen to the guy who gets barely .5mb/s download throughput on Verizon's supposedly superior 3G service in some locations and almost 2mb/s in others..

*Front Facing Cam - I'll wait till someone posts a detail review of the QIK app before I open my yapper and pretend to talk for 'a lot of people'

Trust me I'm not banging Verizon (I use it, my wife has an Eris) - but dam these emo posts from folks nibling at every little detail to find fault where there is an obvious benefit just crack me up.

 

[Yourdogsdead]

I guess I'll play devil's advocate here for the sake of argument. Here are some reasons why one might consider the Incredible better than the EVO (I don't necessarily agree with these, I'm just listing them):

* Size - some people may prefer the smaller dimensions of the Incredible

* AMOLED screen is preferred by some

* Monthly cost - For those who use little to no texting (<250 messages/month), Verizon would only cost $70 or $75 / month depending on which texting option you choose. Sprint+EVO would require $80/month for the Everything Data + Premium Data add-on (yes, I realize you get unlimited texting with Sprint's plan, but to those who don't need it, it's a waste). With the mandatory $10/month fee, Sprint is no longer the cheapest option for everyone.

* Speed - we don't really know the answer to this yet. But it is certainly possible that the EVO in its current state is slower than the Incredible. The processor is the same, but the software is not. We don't really know. For all we know the kernels are quite a bit different because of the WiMax radio support (anyone who has done any Linux kernel development in the embedded world knows that sometimes vendor drivers can force you to switch your kernel base or require you to forward or back-port it). This is yet to be determined, but you guys certainly can't say that there is "no way" that the Incredible is faster. Software matters a lot.

The last thing I'll point out is that a lot of people probably won't care about the advantages that the EVO has over the Incredible:

* WiFi hotspot support: Largely irrelevant to many because not many will pay $30/month for it.

* Screen size: Seen as a disadvantage to some

* 4G/WiMax support: Not many cities have support for this yet. Based on the reviews so far, even 4G cities have spotty coverage (especially indoors). Finally, in many reviews the speeds aren't as high as Sprint is claiming for "typical" performance. Plus, given that 4G is such a huge drain on the battery, many will be forced to only using it occasionally.

* Front camera: A lot of people remain skeptical on video conferencing ever taking off

* HDMI out: This is another one of those features that will excite some users, but leave others scratching their head as to why they would ever really want it

That said, I'll *probably* end up getting the EVO myself, as I have access to a family plan that makes it more affordable. If I were on my own getting an individual plan, I'd likely go for the Incredible.

Very nice post. Personally, I would have loved if the Evo had an AMOLED screen, but only the one that is actually usable in sunlight (Samsung makes it). My Zune is horrible in the sun.

Speed wise, from the reviews, it looks like it's the same as the Incredible (It has the same core does it not?)

Both phones are great, both phones are Android. So in the end we all win.

 

[Nate#AC]

*Size - some people prefer flip phones and sliders too. Some prefer to read fully presented webpages and use a keyboard with more natural spacing. EVO is better.

*AMOLED - Have you tried to use the Incredible screen in open sunlight?? Yea I love brighter colors if I have to use two hands to provide shade for my phone to read it /sarcasm off. EVO wins

*Cost - Do an apples to apples comparison of equal plans and Sprint is consistently cost-competitive against other carriers. 450minutes and unlimited data, text = $10 diff to the benefit of Sprint versus Verizon. EVO wins.

*Speed - No we don't know the answer yet so why don't we just not comment?

----------------
As for your other points:

*Wifi HotSpot - Wherever your laptop is at, do you have your phone with you? The answer is yes. And since I pay $59.99 for a 5GB capped Mobile broadband for my lappy from Verizon - $29.99 just saved me 30bucks with Sprint with no bandwidth caps. So yea Verizon can SUCK IT.

*Screen Size - yea and chicks say size doesn't matter too /sarcasm off

*4G/WiMax - since most the cities haven't been fully lit up yet - let's hold off on the sniping since every review has shown 4G to be faster than 3G in all cases. Whether it is reaching Sprint's advertised rate versus reality, that's yet to be told. But hey don't listen to the guy who gets barely .5mb/s download throughput on Verizon's supposedly superior 3G service in some locations and almost 2mb/s in others..

*Front Facing Cam - I'll wait till someone posts a detail review of the QIK app before I open my yapper and pretend to talk for 'a lot of people'

Trust me I'm not banging Verizon (I use it, my wife has an Eris) - but dam these emo posts from folks nibling at every little detail to find fault where there is an obvious benefit just crack me up.

It was not an "emo" post. People were sincerely asking how anyone could say that the Incredible was superior. I gave reasons why people might think so. Yes, they are mostly subjective. Yes, your own personal opinions differ. That's not exactly surprising. Your own subjective preferences don't make EVO superior for everyone else.

As far as mentioning the speed issue, I mentioned it specifically because others in this thread were making silly claims like "there's no way the EVO is slower".

 

[Nate#AC]

Very nice post. Personally, I would have loved if the Evo had an AMOLED screen, but only the one that is actually usable in sunlight (Samsung makes it). My Zune is horrible in the sun.

Speed wise, from the reviews, it looks like it's the same as the Incredible (It has the same core does it not?)

Both phones are great, both phones are Android. So in the end we all win.

Yeah, it's the same processing core. There's no hardware limitation that would make one faster than the other. I only wanted to point out that because they are potentially running different kernels, performance might vary. In theory they should be able to make them perform the same, but that isn't necessarily true right away (especially with early firmware).

 

[Rizop]

It was not an "emo" post. People were sincerely asking how anyone could say that the Incredible was superior. I gave reasons why people might think so. Yes, they are mostly subjective. Yes, your own personal opinions differ. That's not exactly surprising. Your own subjective preferences don't make EVO superior for everyone else.

As far as mentioning the speed issue, I mentioned it specifically because others in this thread were making silly claims like "there's no way the EVO is slower".

Exactly. There are actually a couple of reviews (CNET and Washington post maybe) that insinuate that the EVO seems to be a little bit slower than the incredible...actually CNET said that the evo was NOWHERE as "zippy" as the incredible. We wont really know for sure until someone gets to see them side by side, but i hope this isn't the case. I have tinkered with my cousins' incredibles for an extended period of time and the phone had almost no stuttering/jutter issues out of the box. The unboxing videos that i have seen of the EVO show a very slight stutter/jutter issue(while scrolling through menus, etc..) that i didnt see with the incredible(hopefully this is me imagining things)