Is the Nexus 7 already out of favor with Google?

[blitzen89]

I'll take slow updates any day over having to play by any of the competitions rules (apple/rim/nokia). While updates aren't lightning quick, at least we get them and have the option of doing whatever we damn well please with our device (within reason of course )

 

[Acelx]

Dude, last time i check the Nexus 7 was a AOSP device.. when Google update its AOSP to 4.1.2 or 4.2 or 4.1.1.1 the Nexus 7 will get it.. i don't think Google wants a Nexus issue again.. where one Galaxy Nexus was on 4.0.1 and the other was on 4.0.4.. n then we will see post about how the Galaxy Nexus isn't AOSP anymore because the Nexus 7 is a update ahead of it

Correct me if im wrong

 

[skyfaller99]

It is quite clear at this point that software updates for the Nexus 7 are not a priority for Google. They have allowed the WPA Enterprise connection issue to simmer for over 2 months without a update or even listing it as an issue on their support pages. One problem with Google is they suffer from Corporate ADD. They may be all gung ho on a product and then it becomes yesterdays news as their focus turns to something else. I'm beginning to suspect that Google's attention is already elsewhere. When I purchased my Nexus 7 I didn't expect it to be perfect, but did expect updates on a regular basis. So far in the over 2 months that this device has been out, there has been exactly one update for it (pushed out at about the same time as the public launch). Google has not commented publicly about the WPA Enterprise Connection issues and their front line support people are unaware of it (or at least claim to be). Very sad indeed. I would have to think 2X before buying another Google device. I have to say for my next phone or tablet I will take a closer look at what Microsoft has to offer as I doubt they would let a bug like this languish for over 2 months.

Iphone 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[greatgoogly]

Iphone 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not a chance.

 

[LegalAmerican]

I actually heard that Google and the Nexus 7 were having words. Also, there's been witnesses that have seen or heard them talking bad about one another behind their backs. I think eventually, Google just said "enough is enough". And who can blame them? The Nexus 7 hasn't been keeping curfew and it has been experimenting in substance abuse. Like any good parent, you eventually have to step in and say something to curb the negative behavior.

 

[jjhoneck]

Um, how about the people that use WPA, that's who cares. Do you even know what WPA is? And do you personally know the OP? I ask because you are so quick to point out that he is a "chronic complainer".

Don't just call it WPA, because that's totally inaccurate and misleading. The N7 works just fine with WPA, just not apparently (and I've never seen this, myself) WPA Enterprise.

Sent from my Nexus 7

 

[gonzlobo]

If you want nightlies, flash a rom. I get it every night.

 

[mrfett79]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall getting 2 updates rather quickly for my N7. I purchased it the day after it came out so others may not have gotten 2 because the second update may have replaced the first by incorporating the first into the second. Just a thought. When did the OP purchase the N7?

 

[mvader123]

How very odd.
I have a Galaxy Nexus (Verizon), and my work network uses WPA EAP-TLS, and I've been able to connect to it with both stock ICS and a Jellybean ROM (Liquid Beta 1 and Beta 2).

 

[n0obpr0]

My Nexus 7 runs great lol it doesn't need any updates hehe

 

[keilflex]

loving my replacement , so far.

 

[kamui957]

I for one then fail to see how this is even REMOTELY the Nexus 7's fault or a sign that the Nexus 7 in particular is out of Google's good graces. Like many have said already this is a Jellybean issue and, as such, will be updated when Jellybean as a whole is updated. There isn't a mystical magical Nexus 7 only fix for this as it is an inherent software fault that needs to be patched in the OS itself.

 

[chunkcohen]

These lack of updates are pushing people away from Android. In my opinion, the next two years are make it or break it for Android. There are too many branches and varieties of Android. Nobody is on the same page and that dilutes the product and weakens the customer base. If Google doesn't get its act together and gain control of Android, I see this OS going the way of Blackberry. As a diehard Android fan, this frustrates and worries me. Vanilla Android is such a great operating system.

Agreed, but I don't foresee any of this changing unless Android's source transitions from open to closed. That's the only way the Android platform would get the tight control iOS has. The Nexus project only does so much when there's only a handful of these devices up against the dozens upon dozens of Android devices from HTC, Samsung, LG, ZTE, Huawei, etc. out in the wild - all running on a wide array of different hardware configurations. And this happens because open source LETS it.

On the flip side, open source is part of what makes the Android platform great. If you're adventurous, you can make an Android device do a lot of things iOS devices can't.


But with that being said, I don't think that Android will suffer the same fate as Blackberry did. Blackberry's demise can be attributed to RIM's inability to change with the times. Their OS is dated and as a platform, it only remains truly relevant to enterprise business users that rely on Blackberry's robust email services.

 

[crackberrytraitor]

Agreed, but I don't foresee any of this changing unless Android's source transitions from open to closed. That's the only way the Android platform would get the tight control iOS has. The Nexus project only does so much when there's only a handful of these devices up against the dozens upon dozens of Android devices from HTC, Samsung, LG, ZTE, Huawei, etc. out in the wild - all running on a wide array of different hardware configurations. And this happens because open source LETS it.

On the flip side, open source is part of what makes the Android platform great. If you're adventurous, you can make an Android device do a lot of things iOS devices can't.


But with that being said, I don't think that Android will suffer the same fate as Blackberry did. Blackberry's demise can be attributed to RIM's inability to change with the times. Their OS is dated and as a platform, it only remains truly relevant to enterprise business users that rely on Blackberry's robust email services.

Well prepare for Blackberry 10 because it's going to rock your world. Don't get me wrong, I love Android. I REALLY, REALLY love it, as I love everything open-source. My desktop is rocking Gentoo. But BB10 with QNX is a game changer. Don't count RIM out yet. Ten years ago people were saying Apple was dead and discussing who would buy them out. Despite what I thought of their business model, I didn't count them out then and don't count RIM out now. I'd bet cold, hard cash that BB10 is going to revitalize RIM and put them back in the game.

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[Unibrow]

I'm surprised at all the nagging at the OP. The OP has an issue and Google has yet to address it. OP, Google is not known for being very communicative. They will fix the bug and they won't abandon your Nexus 7 but don't expect to hear anything from them except how many android devices they've activated last month.

In short, I find that if you have a device that doesn't work the way you want be prompt about returning it and do NOT ever wait for a manufacture to update it to work the way you want. I, personally, have been burned far too many times.

 

[benjone]

to wait

 

[2defmouze]

Well prepare for Blackberry 10 because it's going to rock your world. Don't get me wrong, I love Android. I REALLY, REALLY love it, as I love everything open-source. My desktop is rocking Gentoo. But BB10 with QNX is a game changer. Don't count RIM out yet. Ten years ago people were saying Apple was dead and discussing who would buy them out. Despite what I thought of their business model, I didn't count them out then and don't count RIM out now. I'd bet cold, hard cash that BB10 is going to revitalize RIM and put them back in the game.

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Meh.. I think it's going to be too little, far too late for BB. The VAST majority of smartphone users are now heavily invested in either iOS or Android. Who is going to want to switch to a long-forgotten OS, having all their apps, media, etc already tied to one of the 2 giants? If RIM had stepped their game up 2 years ago recognizing the changing trends and demands of consumers I'd say things would be different, but I don't give them a popsicle's chance in hell at this point. Of course.. stranger things have happened... so I guess we'll see

I'm surprised at all the nagging at the OP. The OP has an issue and Google has yet to address it. OP, Google is not known for being very communicative. They will fix the bug and they won't abandon your Nexus 7 but don't expect to hear anything from them except how many android devices they've activated last month.

In short, I find that if you have a device that doesn't work the way you want be prompt about returning it and do NOT ever wait for a manufacture to update it to work the way you want. I, personally, have been burned far too many times.

You are correct... Google is not known for great communication. Additionally they are known for jumping head first into new technologies, ideas, implementations.... and VERY often the first iterations are not great.. but over time they work out the bugs and improve upon almost everything. That's their innovation, and its something I'll take over some other OS's stagnation any day. They do this with all of their ideas. You will very often with Android or Google services see some new feature that just feels buggy and/or lacking... I've learned that this is how Google operates and I've grown to love them for it. They aren't afraid to introduce new ideas and concepts that might not be fully fleshed out yet, but they are always working on making things better. And that is pure innovation

 

[JaSauders]

I've seen Microsoft bugs linger for years within their operating systems. Not sure I'd bet a dollar that Microsoft will be any better. I'd personally shoot for Google first on that front. My 2c.

Well prepare for Blackberry 10 because it's going to rock your world.

Maybe I'm just being a jerk (highly likely), but I did have a legit LOL reading this one. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to believe that BB 10 is going to be amazing, but sometimes I feel like that's a dream at this point.

 

[1966cah]

Seriously? I get that 2 months is annoying when you are having an issue, but I've been in IT support long enough to know that there are bugs in MS products that go unfixed for MUCH longer periods, and some never get fixed until a new version of the product is released.

 

[NickA]

Meh.. I think it's going to be too little, far too late for BB. The VAST majority of smartphone users are now heavily invested in either iOS or Android. Who is going to want to switch to a long-forgotten OS, having all their apps, media, etc already tied to one of the 2 giants? If RIM had stepped their game up 2 years ago recognizing the changing trends and demands of consumers I'd say things would be different, but I don't give them a popsicle's chance in hell at this point. Of course.. stranger things have happened... so I guess we'll see

I hope you're wrong on this (the BB thing). It's no fun having just Android and iOS at the top. Windows is coming on strong (that Lumia 920 is sweet), and BB 10 looks like it's going to have some nice features. Where I disagree with you is that I do think smartphone users will drop their current smartphone for the "hottest" one that's out there. I think even some iPhone users are getting tired of the "form over function" mentality, unless they are truly die-hard Apple fans.