Is the pixel 2 xl's display the same as v30?

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Just went through the reddit thread as well...some major issues with the comparisons there. You have to compare the panels at the same output lumens. Adjusting the brightness slider to the same value isn't the same thing. My concerns are rooted in the fact that I have seen the POLED panels in the past, I believe all of them were made by LG as well, and all of them had the same problems that were noted in the Verge review. If Pixel 2 XL is using the same display, while the calibration may be accurate, the overall display quality will be terrible. I really can't wait until I can actually try this phone to see for myself. I don't have high hopes though.

Edit: In before somebody says "Samsung uses POLED too". Even if they do (and I still doubt that because the information that I have seen so far points to Samsung still taking the harder approach of shaping glass substrate), the manufacturing differences between Samsung and LG are quite large for OLED panels, at least based on displays produced to date.
Hope LG notices it.just wondering how they miss such things in QC!
The display is something that wealways stare at when the phone is on...
Google corrected it would mean that they might have corrected the white balance etc etc....but the overall quality still can't be changed .I guess the main concern is the distribution of
 
Just went through the reddit thread as well...some major issues with the comparisons there. You have to compare the panels at the same output lumens. Adjusting the brightness slider to the same value isn't the same thing. My concerns are rooted in the fact that I have seen the POLED panels in the past, I believe all of them were made by LG as well, and all of them had the same problems that were noted in the Verge review. If Pixel 2 XL is using the same display, while the calibration may be accurate, the overall display quality will be terrible. I really can't wait until I can actually try this phone to see for myself. I don't have high hopes though.

Edit: In before somebody says "Samsung uses POLED too". Even if they do (and I still doubt that because the information that I have seen so far points to Samsung still taking the harder approach of shaping glass substrate), the manufacturing differences between Samsung and LG are quite large for OLED panels, at least based on displays produced to date.

Samsung switched to POLED with the S8 moving forward.

Also I'm not sure how you would have seen POLEDs made by LG in the past when the only LG POLED that existed prior to the V30 was in the GFlex series only. Neither of those panels had these issues. (they had other issues though)
 
Samsung switched to POLED with the S8 moving forward.

Also I'm not sure how you would have seen POLEDs made by LG in the past when the only LG POLED that existed prior to the V30 was in the GFlex series only. Neither of those panels had these issues. (they had other issues though)
I believe that POLED by LG was used in both BlackBerry Z30 and in the BlackBerry Priv. They both had the same types of issues as what is being experienced now. Even if they were not made by LG, they exhibited similar or same issues and they were also plastic substrate OLED screens and were terrible.

As for Samsung, I heard that they moved to plastic substrate OLED for S8 and onwards, but did anyone actually confirm this or is this just assumed because of the curve (note glass can be bent too and Samsung isn't going wild with these things).

Either way, reviews will be out soon and then we can continue this discussion. For now I'll just patiently wait.
 
Pixel 2 XL screen quality

Just thought I'd make this thread as I'm planning on buying the Pixel 2 XL, however knowing that it has the LG V30 OLED screen, I've become concerned after reading about the LG V30 screen quality from reviews like these:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design

"You may be wondering why I have left discussion of the LG V30’s display for last. Well, that’s because I wanted you to understand the essential strengths and weaknesses of this phone before I told you the ultimate deal-breaker for me. The OLED screen of the V30 is just bad. There’s no dodging this issue, and there’s no making excuses for it. This isn’t a good display, and if your phone doesn’t have a good display it might as well be a Nokia 5110.

Areas of the same color on the V30 appear blotchy: when I open up a Google Keep note, I don’t get a flat white canvas as I should, but instead I see streaks of gray, looking as if there’s an inconsistent backlight. This being an OLED display, there’s no backlight to speak of, so it’s just poor brightness uniformity across those light-emitting diodes. The same unhappy effect is even more pronounced with darker grays and colors like navy blue, and it’s amplified by the V30’s apparent inability to render color gradations smoothly. Gradients appear grainy and I see unpleasant color banding, exactly the same issues that Ars Technica encountered with a preproduction V30 device last month.

Every time I switched between the V30 and HTC’s U11 in my testing, the U11’s screen felt like a luxurious escape. It’s painfully apparent that LG’s so-called plastic OLED screens are multiple generations behind Samsung’s alternative — which graces the Galaxy S8, Galaxy Note 8, and the upcoming iPhone X — as well as significantly behind the best LCDs, as exhibited by the U11. If you’d asked me, before getting ahold of the V30, what most excited me about this phone, the bezel-deprived OLED screen would have been one of my top two or three features. I really do think LG nailed the dimensions of this phone, and I’m confident the screen technology contributes to the V30’s thinness (as well as making it compatible with Google’s budding Daydream VR ecosystem). But the V30’s desaturated, lifeless screen, addled with all of the foregoing issues, makes this a phone I find impossible to love, or even get along with on a daily basis."


And this: https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2017/09/lg-v30-hands-on-display-quality/

"The front is dominated by all-new LG-made 6-inch 2880×1440 P-OLED display with an extra-tall 18:9 aspect ratio. LG has been producing OLED TVs for some time, but the company's OLED display production has kept away from smartphones after the awful LG G Flex and G Flex 2 displays in the 2013-2015 era. These were physically curved smartphones (they were banana shaped for some reason) and LG's flexible OLED technology was so early that the display couldn't display a smooth, consistent color.

Two years later and things don't seem to be any better. The OLED panel on my pre-production unit still has the same issues as the LG G Flex. In low brightness in a dark room, the screen is grainy and has "dirty" looking horizontal banding all over it. The light level is also woefully uneven, with hotspots blazing out of the left and right corners."


Now this does sound very concerning to me. The Pixel 2 XL is not a cheap device, and reading these reviews, it sounds like the screen is not good at all. Not average, not decent, but sounds actually quite poor.

Granted this may be a bad batch, might be defects, might be a number of things, or it could be that the display simply is not good and noticeably worse than modern LCD and AMOLED displays.

I had thought that the Pixel 2 XL pretty much ticked a whole lot of boxes for me, but if the screen is that poor, I really don't know if I could spend the money on a phone with a sub-par screen.

Android Central's review is nicer on the screen: https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-v30-review

"I'm happy to report that the company has made a huge amount of progress over the past two years, to the point where V30's screen is almost as good as Samsung's SuperAMOLED. That sounds like faint praise, but I'm actually more than satisfied with what LG has brought to the table here. It's not Galaxy S8 good, but it's surprisingly close, and that's an achievement in itself.

Samsung is still the king of smartphone displays, there's no doubt about that. But LG's latest screen, at Quad HD+ resolution, looks fantastic and punchy, and unlike some of those older P-OLED panels, is clear enough to use outdoors in bright daylight."


I don't get how we can have such a large disparities of opinions on the screen? One reviewer pretty much calling it terrible and another saying it's great and almost as good as the best screens on the market.

I guess we have to wait for the reviews for the Pixel 2 XL to come out, and I'll have to see the screen myself to decide, but these comments on the LG V30 screen do concern me.
 
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Yeah, I can see why it might cause concern, though I am not worried at this point.


(1) In a few hours (hopefully) there should be 50 reviews on the internet of the Pixel 2 XL from these same blogs (The Verge included). We'll have more opinions soon.
(2) As the Verge often does, it showed no photos of the massive problem it had with the displays. Other sites showed ultra low lux blank grey screens as evidence. I guess that wouldn't be my use case :-).

Anyway, we'll know soon enough, as we'll have them in hand shortly. While I can understand the concern, I am hoping for the best
 
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You just have to know what you're getting into with the Verge and how they "review" certain phones. A 7/10 for the V30 seems unreasonably low. And maybe they're right but they've been biasedly wrong about a lot of phones that aren't Apple, Samsung, or Google.
 
I believe that POLED by LG was used in both BlackBerry Z30 and in the BlackBerry Priv. They both had the same types of issues as what is being experienced now. Even if they were not made by LG, they exhibited similar or same issues and they were also plastic substrate OLED screens and were terrible.

As for Samsung, I heard that they moved to plastic substrate OLED for S8 and onwards, but did anyone actually confirm this or is this just assumed because of the curve (note glass can be bent too and Samsung isn't going wild with these things).

Either way, reviews will be out soon and then we can continue this discussion. For now I'll just patiently wait.

Nope. LG hasn't had any POLEDs since the G flex series since those displays had a lot of issues. The Blackberry displays were Samsung.

One of the Android sites confirmed that Samsung switched to plastic, but I can't recall which.
 
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No, it's my phone. It's $949 of my hard earned money. Trying to figure out why people on this forum have obsessions over blue tint and screens. Normal customers don't think about this stuff. Does it make phone calls and allow me to search the internet? Yes...take my money.

The real question is why are you here then. Yes, for me $949 of my hard earned money it better have a nice screen. If all i cared about was "does it allow me to make phone calls and search the internet" well then amazon is running a deal on the Moto E for $49.99
 
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Well so far every review has stated the screen is not like the V30. So there's that. :D
 
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For some people, visual aspects of their products matter. What my car looks like, my home, my sneakers, and what many other things I own look like actually does matter to me.

Without reading a single line of forum discussion on the Samsung S8's I bought for everyone in my family earlier this year, I can tell you that, for me, those screens are strikingly beautiful. Just beautiful. Even sitting on the table a few feet away they look gorgeous. But again, that's just me, but it's not like someone told me the S8's were good or bad, it's just the way I see the world and what I notice.

I've got the Pixel 2 XL on pre-order and I've come close more than once to just clicking that cancel button, just b/c of the display. But, I tend to like everything else I hear/see about the new P2 XL. The combo of the positive attributes of this phone, with the generous trade-in program offered by Google and the "promise" of bluetooth that actually might work (read any of my previous rants about the OG XL and horrible BT) makes me lean toward keeping the order in place even though the screen is likely to come up short for me.

So, I am with the OP regarding these concerns. I think everyone has to assess their own needs and make a personal decision on how they spend their money. I guess on the bright side is that I don't know of any phone, from any manufacturer, that clicks off everything in the "crazy good" column for me - now or in the past. Just figure out what works for you and have fun with it!
 
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I'm a screen buff could never live with the XL2 wanting the regular pixel 2. I'm coming from the S6 how does the screen compare to the regular pixel 2?
 
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Google has a 14 day "no regrets" return policy. No restock fee, and I think they pay for the shipping label too.

No need to worry your pretty little heads. all it'll cost you if you decide the screen isn't good enough is a trip to FedEx to drop off the return package
 
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I'm a screen buff could never live with the XL2 wanting the regular pixel 2. I'm coming from the S6 how does the screen compare to the regular pixel 2?

A little confused by your statement/question. But the screen on the Pixel 2XL is supposed to be of higher quality and better pixel density then that of the Pixel 2.
 
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Well so far every review has stated the screen is not like the V30. So there's that. :D

Well, the AC one said it is like it a bit in the video review. The reviews of the XL screen have not been great so far.
 
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