Is the Pixel 3 the 2018 Phone of the year?

Whether it's the people's choice or the editorial staff choice, the only question that their answering is which is the most popular device among a very biased sample size. We can pretty much figure that out just by looking at sales figures, can't we?

It does not require a lot of nuance to recognize that popularity and actual quality are not necessarily related. I would argue that they're not even correlated at all.

The things that move devices are a combination of perceived quality, marketing, and price. However we can actually determine the quality of device without using any of those three metrics. All it takes is setting up a criteria for scoring, detailing how each metric is going to be measured or evaluated if it is qualitative, and then sticking to an exact methodology when evaluating all contenders.

As an example it would be impossible to call the note 9 the best display in the market, because we know from an objective standpoint that the new iPhone screen is better. In a practical standpoint they are clearly tied, as are several other devices including the new pixels and earlier Galaxy phones and even last year's iPhone flagships. what form of jacked up stamps the new iPhone displays are the best on the market and the note 9 ranks in the top five.

The main trick for setting up criterion methodology is to make sure that you're not setting up a set of metrics that are going to skew to one type of a device over another. If half of your categories are devoted to aspects of software, support and security, it becomes impossible for any Samsung phone from the last 8 years to win. If more than half of your criteria are devoted strictly to the quantity of various hardware components, then excuse to where no one but Huawei or Samsung could possibly win... despite the fact that I think you would have to be absolutely insane to think that Huawei is a top 20 device contender let alone a challenger for the throne. So the approach has to be balanced in a way that what allow us to confidently state that a thing that scores as close to perfectly as possible on the metrics would align with what on average consumer is going to think makes an ideal device.

And we can't ever forget that the average consumer never reads any aspect of the spec sheet. most of them probably never spend more than 20 seconds comparing any one device to another out of the entire year.
 
Why do you think Huawei should not be in the mix ?
the phone is gorgeous
fast performance
just the uI not crazy
reverse charging
beautiful display
great camera
host of other features
big battery
7nm processor
face 3d
 
Why do you think Huawei should not be in the mix ?
the phone is gorgeous
fast performance
just the uI not crazy
reverse charging
beautiful display
great camera
host of other features
big battery
7nm processor
face 3d

Privacy, Security, Gimmicks, Poor Design choices (IMO).

On the spec sheet they look great. In actual execution, I would put them above "garbage" but not above "unacceptable".
 
Privacy, Security, Gimmicks, Poor Design choices (IMO).

On the spec sheet they look great. In actual execution, I would put them above "garbage" but not above "unacceptable".

Privacy and security Google and Apple can get hacked or share data just recently iPhone had a problem which is supposed to be the safest. We are not in government where we need security or data like you think ,even government gets hacked of course we want some level of security and data protection . Huawei design was never garbage I think it ranks top out there. iPhone in my opinion is the best looking phone. And I have to give credit to what's Huawei done with the pro the only problem is not available in US but everywhere else. I can't buy a phone that if something happens I'm stuck with no warranty after dumping a grand otherwise I'd buy one.
But really I never experience any data leaks or hacked in a the years I've own phones and I had phones that were less secure then now.
 
No its coming..
To me I dont look too much into these things
I have the device's that make me happy and people here I share my thoughts on things. They can pick the poco phone as number 1 dont matter to me.

"IF I LISTEN OTHER PEOPLE I NEVER BUY A PHONE " The Mike Dee Quote which I like a lot Mr. Redneck lol

Please quote me in english
 
Why do you think Huawei should not be in the mix ?
the phone is gorgeous
fast performance
just the uI not crazy
reverse charging
beautiful display
great camera
host of other features
big battery
7nm processor
face 3d

I agree. I have a Huawei Media pad M5 and the tablet feels very premium.
 
Android Authority just published their 2018 Android smartphone of the Year - Samsung Galaxy Note 9

https://www.androidauthority.com/best-of-android-2018-best-smartphone-926803/

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Note 9 took Best Display and tied for Best Camera with the Pixel 3/3XL and was top-5 in 4 out of 5 categories.

Can't say I disagree. I'd say the Note 9 is the best overall Androud phone for consumers. Hits the mark on pretty much every metric. Big beautiful display, great cameras, high end specs, great battery life, super fast with a slick UI and seemingly going to get better with One UI. Not much to fault really.
 
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Privacy and security Google and Apple can get hacked or share data just recently iPhone had a problem which is supposed to be the safest. We are not in government where we need security or data like you think ,even government gets hacked of course we want some level of security and data protection . Huawei design was never garbage I think it ranks top out there. iPhone in my opinion is the best looking phone. And I have to give credit to what's Huawei done with the pro the only problem is not available in US but everywhere else. I can't buy a phone that if something happens I'm stuck with no warranty after dumping a grand otherwise I'd buy one.
But really I never experience any data leaks or hacked in a the years I've own phones and I had phones that were less secure then now.
Yeah I'm with you. I think these data leaks are over-exaggerated and are more likely where Apple/Google's servers getting hacked than someone getting into my phone.

And yeah I think Huawei have outstanding designs. The P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro have great design language and they handle a notch elegantly. Much better than putting a bathtub on the top of the screen.

Also I would have said that Google had the best UI, but after Android 9.0 Pie and how poorly it's half-baked button/gesture UI is, I really can't give them that credit anymore. OnePlus have a far superior system, Motorola have a far superior system and Apple have the gold standard for a gesture-based system.

I just feel like the Pixels are always in a state of beta testing. The software has a tonne of bugs that always need ironing out, features aren't fleshed out, features come out at a later date even though they're advertised early....it just doesn't feel like a complete, consumer ready phone. It's as if as a consumer, I'm being asked to buy into a concept rather than a reality.
 
Privacy and security Google and Apple can get hacked or share data just recently iPhone had a problem which is supposed to be the safest. We are not in government where we need security or data like you think ,even government gets hacked of course we want some level of security and data protection

But isn't the security issue around Huawei more about the Chinese government and it's involvement with the company? Not so much some random hacker or something like that.. I mean, you gotta admit there's a lot of questions surrounding the company's ties.

https://tech.co/huawei-genuine-security-threat-2018-09

Regarding the design... I think the hardware looks nice, but EMUI looks like straight trash.
 
Lol! We'll see once the rest come in ... AA doesn't really like Pixels to begin with. I feel they have a bias against the brand. Just look at their review of the 3 this year.

I'm not sure where the Pixel bias is in their review though.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-xl-review-911391/

The main negatives in their review are average battery life and screen brightness which I don't think anybody can really argue with. Battery life is always a dicey throw and depends on use cases and when compared to the Samsung S9, Note 9, iPhone, and other flagships the objective screen brightness of the 3/3XL are lower than others in nits. That plus the fact that when comparing base configurations between the Pixels and other flagships, they appear overpriced with respect to hardware features. Software experience is always a subjective measure and shouldn't really be evaluated unless it's truly horrible or excellent. Some people think pure Android is great whereas others will find it boring and limited in features that can't be overcome through other apps.
 
But isn't the security issue around Huawei more about the Chinese government and it's involvement with the company? Not so much some random hacker or something like that.. I mean, you gotta admit there's a lot of questions surrounding the company's ties.

https://tech.co/huawei-genuine-security-threat-2018-09

Regarding the design... I think the hardware looks nice, but EMUI looks like straight trash.

I agree with security problems their no question about that.
Design gorgeous.
Emui horrible
I would buy the device only if US sells it with warranty, which they won't .
If the US didn't have the 1+6 I wouldn't of bought that either.
 
I'm not sure where the Pixel bias is in their review though.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-xl-review-911391/

The main negatives in their review are average battery life and screen brightness which I don't think anybody can really argue with. Battery life is always a dicey throw and depends on use cases and when compared to the Samsung S9, Note 9, iPhone, and other flagships the objective screen brightness of the 3/3XL are lower than others in nits. That plus the fact that when comparing base configurations between the Pixels and other flagships, they appear overpriced with respect to hardware features. Software experience is always a subjective measure and shouldn't really be evaluated unless it's truly horrible or excellent. Some people think pure Android is great whereas others will find it boring and limited in features that can't be overcome through other apps.

I agree here
 
I'm not sure where the Pixel bias is in their review though.

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-xl-review-911391/

The main negatives in their review are average battery life and screen brightness which I don't think anybody can really argue with. Battery life is always a dicey throw and depends on use cases and when compared to the Samsung S9, Note 9, iPhone, and other flagships the objective screen brightness of the 3/3XL are lower than others in nits. That plus the fact that when comparing base configurations between the Pixels and other flagships, they appear overpriced with respect to hardware features. Software experience is always a subjective measure and shouldn't really be evaluated unless it's truly horrible or excellent. Some people think pure Android is great whereas others will find it boring and limited in features that can't be overcome through other apps.

I feel like the review is riddled with backhanded compliments and they are being somewhat passive aggressive about the review. Every other sentence was like "this is great, but...". Things like, "While the wide-angle camera up front is a welcome addition, it is an unusual surrender to additional hardware." or " Playground is basically just an AR mode where you can place characters from Marvel and Stranger Things into your shots. It’s fun and fairly well executed, but pretty gimmicky and not something you’ll likely use much." are throughout the article.
 
I feel like the review is riddled with backhanded compliments and they are being somewhat passive aggressive about the review. Every other sentence was like "this is great, but...". Things like, "While the wide-angle camera up front is a welcome addition, it is an unusual surrender to additional hardware." or " Playground is basically just an AR mode where you can place characters from Marvel and Stranger Things into your shots. It’s fun and fairly well executed, but pretty gimmicky and not something you’ll likely use much." are throughout the article.

Yeah a lot of software features in other OEM skins are also called gimmicky as well. Criticismcs like these are not just confined to Pixel reviews and are doled out at other OEMs with even more veracity (in nearly all reviews about Samsung phones, everyone claims their UI is loaded with unnessary features, i.e, gimmicks). What may be considered a gimmick to one person may actually be useful to another thus evaluations of software experience is always subjective (remember how Active Squeeze was considered a gimmick when HTC announced it but when the Pixel 2 got it it's great even when's it's more restricted). Can't wait for the other reviews though. They should be coming in quick over the next few weeks.
 
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Yeah a lot of software features in other OEM skins are also called gimmicky as well. Criticismcs like these are not just confined to Pixel reviews. What may be considered a gimmick to one person may actually be useful to another thus evaluations of software experience is always subjective (remember how Active Squeeze was considered a gimmick when HTC announced it but when the Pixel 2 got it it's great even when's it's more restricted). Can't wait for the other reviews though. They should be coming in quick over the next few weeks.

Well, I didn't seem to get the same passive aggressive tone from their review of the N9. I also don't feel it's a reviewer's responsibility to make that type of determination. Really, just tell me how the device works and in what situations would different features benefit me. Features aren't "gimmicky" if a user finds beneficial uses for them.

It's just their tone for the review, that I find troublesome. There are plenty of positive, as well as critical, reviews of the Pixel 3 already. AA's specific review... well, I found it hard to appreciate because of the high amount of passive aggressive comments.
 
hahaha...I see more wine at the table for both you guys.

I look at it like this ...wait until AC,verge and others come to their conclusions and see if they feel the same if more then 1 thinks they number 1 this year well more wine 😁😂😂

I plugged this into Google Translate and got nothing
 
I think a lot of the technology that's in the Pixels gets overlooked because some of it is so new. As an example, Google took the AI technology that was behind the Clips camera and put that into the Pixel 3 with the Photobooth feature in the camera. That's on device recognition AI that most overlook. People seem to only focus on Top Shot and Night Sight, but photobooth is impressive as well.
 
I think a lot of the technology that's in the Pixels gets overlooked because some of it is so new. As an example, Google took the AI technology that was behind the Clips camera and put that into the Pixel 3 with the Photobooth feature in the camera. That's on device recognition AI that most overlook. People seem to only focus on Top Shot and Night Sight, but photobooth is impressive as well.

I agree
Like if I didn't like what Google doing I wouldn't own the phone, in sure you guys wouldn't either. I'm looking forward to the 4th I think they will give something special
Hey maybe Samsung did better this year
Maybe pixel will do better then them next year
Or iPhone following year
So much competition
But I like Google devices even if I have to pay a premium
 

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