Is the pro a Flagship?

[bkdodger2]

Was just saying this. I had no problem with Google assistant on my galaxies until I tried it on the pixel 6. Using it on only other devices seems out dated and 2nd class lol. Can definitely tell that it's intergrated more into the software of the device instead of an app that's downloaded from the playstore.

Haha I see we both were posting around the same time with the same thoughts? Lol but yeah man I love my Samsung phone but I have to say nothing compares to using the pixel when you're using the assistant. It's just a pleasure. I can talk to my Apple phone and it is the worst experience for me. It just doesn't understand when I'm talking to it and messes up constantly to the point where I never use it. Right now I'm talking to you in my car freely and this phone just gets it all right. It's not perfect. Sometimes I have to fix a word here or there. But overall incredible. I mean this is really next level and it should help overall everyone else..

 

[bkdodger2]

I'm guessing you have other reasons why you're dissatisfied with the phones besides the wallpaper, the FPS, and the charging. Those aren't the usual things I think about when I think about high end phones.

Let's dispense with the wallpaper quibble, since that's clearly not relevant. I mean, you know how to change the wallpaper, and use live wallpapers, right?

I haven't used other in-screen FPS's, but I can say that my experience with the 6 Pro has been totally fine. It works, it works promptly, and its failure rate is about the same as traditional capacitative FPS's. Maybe it doesn't activate the exact very moment I touch the screen, but if the difference in response time is on the order of hundredths of seconds, i don't consider that a major point of comparison.

As has now been documented, it's clear that charging speeds are not as fast as Google claimed -- that's definitely a black eye for Google. But to me, the race to faster and faster charging speeds is kind of like the arms race of who can make a phone with the least bezel, or even negative bezel. Superfast charging has not been important to me personally, and there is always the concern that the faster you charge a battery, the more you contribute to battery degradation over time. I'm also curious -- how much has your battery drained by your lunch break? If it's enough to require a significant charge, you're either using your phone really heavily (which, of course, may be understandable depending on your job requirements) or something is wonky and causing the battery to drain.

i would say that this phone is definitely a flagship. For me, one of the most important features of a phone is the camera, and the Pixel camera is the best around. Of course, the phone is also fast, smooth, and made with premium materials. I also appreciate the usual Pixel benefit of timely updates and -- can't emphasize this enough -- zero bloat (but of course, you get that with the midrange "a" series as well). Let's not forget the value proposition either: $899 vs >$1000 for most other flagships.

But hey, if a phone doesn't feel right to you, then by all means, move on. Everyone has different wants and different needs.

^^^^THIS .. spot on my friend spot on!

 

[buzzy3970]

Haha I see we both were posting around the same time with the same thoughts? Lol but yeah man I love my Samsung phone but I have to say nothing compares to using the pixel when you're using the assistant. It's just a pleasure. I can talk to my Apple phone and it is the worst experience for me. It just doesn't understand when I'm talking to it and messes up constantly to the point where I never use it. Right now I'm talking to you in my car freely and this phone just gets it all right. It's not perfect. Sometimes I have to fix a word here or there. But overall incredible. I mean this is really next level and it should help overall everyone else..

It is a very pleasant experience. I've always felt that Google Assistant is the best virtual assistant on a phone, but I didn't know that on the pixel it takes it to a whole new level. Level. I literally just tried this feature to reply to you and holy F it's just like I'm typing myself. The accuracy is so on point not to mention the time saver when you're sending long texts lol. I'm really going to enjoy using the assistant on the Pixel. Kind of frustrated that I can't get this type of experience on my Galaxy devices because I would be willing to pay extra for it. The pixel definitely displays what a virtual assistant experience should feel like

 

[bkdodger2]

It is a very pleasant experience. I've always felt that Google Assistant is the best virtual assistant on a phone, but I didn't know that on the pixel it takes it to a whole new level. Level. I literally just tried this feature to reply to you and holy F it's just like I'm typing myself. The accuracy is so on point not to mention the time saver when you're sending long texts lol. I'm really going to enjoy using the assistant on the Pixel. Kind of frustrated that I can't get this type of experience on my Galaxy devices because I would be willing to pay extra for it. The pixel definitely displays what a virtual assistant experience should feel like

Most definitely would like to see it at this level with the Samsung phone. I'd pay for it for sure. Agree with you

 

[Not Quite Right]

I've really grown tired of the term "Flagship" being used as a description for a cellphone. The term gets thrown around so much that its almost lost it's true meaning.
flag·ship
/ˈflaɡˌSHip/
The best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization.
Now if you ask that same question with the terms true meaning then the answer can only be yes the Pixel 6 pro is a flagship, and in reality every manufacture makes a FLAGSHIP phone.

 

[buzzy3970]

I've really grown tired of the term "Flagship" being used as a description for a cellphone. The term gets thrown around so much that its almost lost it's true meaning.
flag·ship
/ˈflaɡˌSHip/
The best or most important thing owned or produced by a particular organization.
Now if you ask that same question with the terms true meaning then the answer can only be yes the Pixel 6 pro is a flagship, and in reality every manufacture makes a FLAGSHIP phone.

Exactly that's the point of the word "flagship" lol. It has the proper label when it comes to retail. Just about every manufacturer has a flagship product and let's not forget flagship stores(which are said to be the best of the best). The part that gets lost in translation is when people try to pick apart a manufacturers flagship product and try to tell you what it should be in comparison to someone else's flagship which isn't going to change anytime soon. The good thing is we have plenty of choices so if we don't agree with a certain company or product we aren't forced to buy from them. I will forever chose to spend my on the things I'm interested in and not let others opinion sway my decision to make a purchase.

 

[Chex313]

The OP asks a Rhetorical question ....answers it himself and the thread goes on and on with nonsense..Why would anyone care what someone else uses? Or their opinion of what category it fits into.

Unfortunately I have no answer for the question as I wouldn't own an ios device if you paid me...and I have not owned a Samsung phone since Google put it out (Galaxy Nexus).

So I am stuck with Google...To me these phones are still magical and I appreciate the incredible value and enjoyment they bring every time I use it. It does 50 amazing different things for me every day and I would never want to go back to 07, 08 when I did not have one.

Quibbling over which phone does something better is a lesson in futility.

 

[mustang7757]

The OP asks a Rhetorical question ....answers it himself and the thread goes on and on with nonsense..Why would anyone care what someone else uses? Or their opinion of what category it fits into.

Unfortunately I have no answer for the question as I wouldn't own an ios device if you paid me...and I have not owned a Samsung phone since Google put it out (Galaxy Nexus).

So I am stuck with Google...To me these phones are still magical and I appreciate the incredible value and enjoyment they bring every time I use it. It does 50 amazing different things for me every day and I would never want to go back to 07, 08 when I did not have one.

Quibbling over which phone does something better is a lesson in futility.

Yes we do get these types of questions not just pixels but other manufacturers from time to time and they can make threads like this which isn't out the norm as long as it stays civilized .If I had to guess I think OP couldn't justify the extra 300 for the Pro and decided the 6 was better option .

 

[Kizzy Catwoman]

Agree with above it is a flagship in it's on right. The best speced pixel to date. Sure it has it's short comings with the fps, but that doesn't negate it from being a flagship and neither does charging speeds. Let's not forget just a few years ago Apple had the worst charging speeds of any flagship on the market and no one questoned those devices being flagship worthy. Same in this case. They did a great job in pricing these devices and their seems to be more positive than negative when you factor in cost vs value.

I agree with all of this. The 6 Pro is a flagship in spec, build and use. It is a powerhouse compared to midrange phones and produces high quality output from both cameras and other apps. It feels premium. Apps run smoothly and quickly. Sure there are some bugs from Android 12, but no phone is flawless and this is no exception. If someone has bought it and it doesn't meet their expectations then they are right to return it. But by the same mark, if someone is happy with their purchase they should keep it. That really has no bearing on its status as a flagship,

 

[shook187]

Yes we do get these types of questions not just pixels but other manufacturers from time to time and they can make threads like this which isn't out the norm as long as it stays civilized .If I had to guess I think OP couldn't justify the extra 300 for the Pro and decided the 6 was better option .

Basically!!! It was actually sad that no one could answer what the pro does better then other phone manufacturers “flagships” Instead they just chose to focus on the definition of a word.

I for one need my phone to Excel at certain categories if I’m gonna pay top dollar for a device. Unfortunately the Pro isn’t good at anything currently on the market.

 

[buzzy3970]

Basically!!! It was actually sad that no one could answer what the pro does better then other phone manufacturers “flagships” Instead they just chose to focus on the definition of a word.

I for one need my phone to Excel at certain categories if I’m gonna pay top dollar for a device. Unfortunately the Pro isn’t good at anything currently on the market.

To be fair you didn't phrase the question that way. Yes you mentioned about other flagships, but your actual question asked "do you think the pro is a flagship device?". Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and no one is required to answer in the matter in which you think it should've been answered. The truth is an average consumer will get the 6 pro and like it. Yes some will compare it to other devices and then there are those with 2-4 year old phones that will appreciate how much better the phone does things for a reasonable price in it's class. It's just like a TV you don't realize you don't have the best picture quality unless you put it side by side with a TV that arguably has a better quality.

 

[mustang7757]

Basically!!! It was actually sad that no one could answer what the pro does better then other phone manufacturers “flagships” Instead they just chose to focus on the definition of a word.

I for one need my phone to Excel at certain categories if I’m gonna pay top dollar for a device. Unfortunately the Pro isn’t good at anything currently on the market.

None of the flagship do better then the other and if they do it slightly, the Pro specs are pretty much what you get with other flagship, so it's up to you what your looking for in a device and some cases cheaper .

Remember
Pixel 6pro has
Top of line OLED panel
Battery 5003 mAh
Ram 12
Design premium
Camera one of the top if not the top
AI computing


By the way charging with correct cable and brick should get you 50 % in 30 minutes

 

[B. Diddy]

Basically!!! It was actually sad that no one could answer what the pro does better then other phone manufacturers “flagships” Instead they just chose to focus on the definition of a word.

I for one need my phone to Excel at certain categories if I’m gonna pay top dollar for a device. Unfortunately the Pro isn’t good at anything currently on the market.

Um, I answered it. The camera is superior, the phone is fast and smooth, and it's a better value than many comparable flagships out there.

But you're dead set on your own opinion, which is totally fine. Just understand that you're unlikely to sway many people in this particular subforum.

 

[Morty2264]

I would say that the Pixel 6 line - both the smaller model and the Pro - are definite flagships. With the battery size, new OS, refresh rate, camera specs, I'd definitely say that you're in flagship territory - granted, Tensor is a new OS from Google so you may need to tread a bit more carefully, as there may be bugs or hiccups. But we're definitely talking about flagships based off of spec sheets.

Going to the wallpapers, I don't think a wallpaper upon initial boot would warrant an accurate depiction of the screen's capabilities. Maybe playing with the colour type (Saturated vs Boosted) and selecting different wallpapers would create a more well-rounded view of the screen's capacity. There are wallpapers that just look *better* on my Pixel 5, but I wouldn't dismiss it if a wallpaper just didn't jive with the screen.

With regards to charging speeds, OnePlus is definitely the leader when it comes to things like charging. Warp Charge is supposedly phenomenal.

In the end, it all boils down to what works for you and what you need. Good for you for figuring that out! Enjoy your phone!

 

[swampbaby]

I'm gonna say yes it is.

 

[swebb]

As said before, "flagship" is basically the top offering from a manufacturer, so everyone offers a "flagship". Next, even if it didn't have a feature that is definitively class leading (though many have pointed them out on the G6Pro), the phone just works superbly. No weaknesses. If you have to nitpick the default wallpaper as being a reason that it's not a flagship, you're really pressing to make your point.

 

[LegalAmerican]

Thanks for your response I was better off just listening to crickets. Being a Pixel just isn’t good enough. The main stream customer is not gonna buy a pixel just because it’s a Pixel. If you’re paying top dollar for a device you want it to perform and or be comparable to devices in its price range. If not it’s just going to get overlooked and fall by the wayside like other pixel devices.

Are you needing someone else to convince you for some reason? Because if so, yes you're better off listening to crickets. You've already made your decision, and others have as well so it's not helpful to try and debate. I'd argue the camera is better overall, although the iPhone can beat it in some settings. But that's all my opinion and that's what I base my buying decisions on. My opinion.

 

[beantownsouth]

Every Flagship has something that it does great over the other Flagship unfortunately I think the pro doesn’t have one single category it does better than the other flagships… Can someone enlightening me and tell me what the pro is Better at compared to other flagships?

This is not the first time, I have heard someone ask what Googles flagship phone does better than other flagships. The issue I have with my first sentence is, it's the definition of flagship, you need to define first. Flagship anything, is usually referred to as the top of the line product, for "a" (note the quotations) given manufacturer. Not every manufacturers definition of flagship is the same.

Nor is anyone online who reviews cell phones definition of "flagship" the same. And there lies the major issue. When Google released the Pixel 5, at that point in cell phone history, it was in fact, Googles Flagship phone. They made no better, it was the absolute, top of the line, cell phone they produce. Now if you listened to all the reviews, it was no where near, "the reviewers" definition of flagship. When in fact it absolutely was Googles flagship at the time.

Which leads me to where this thread started in the first place. The top of the line flagship Google cell phone, made at this time by Google, is in fact the Pixel 6 Pro. It is the absolute best you can buy from Google. Damn the specifications to Hades, the Pixel 6 Pro is Googles flagship phone.

 

[jtcannonball]

This is not the first time, I have heard someone ask what Googles flagship phone does better than other flagships. The issue I have with my first sentence is, it's the definition of flagship, you need to define first. Flagship anything, is usually referred to as the top of the line product, for "a" (note the quotations) given manufacturer. Not every manufacturers definition of flagship is the same.

Nor is anyone online who reviews cell phones definition of "flagship" the same. And there lies the major issue. When Google released the Pixel 5, at that point in cell phone history, it was in fact, Googles Flagship phone. They made no better, it was the absolute, top of the line, cell phone they produce. Now if you listened to all the reviews, it was no where near, "the reviewers" definition of flagship. When in fact it absolutely was Googles flagship at the time.

Which leads me to where this thread started in the first place. The top of the line flagship Google cell phone, made at this time by Google, is in fact the Pixel 6 Pro. It is the absolute best you can buy from Google. Damn the specifications to Hades, the Pixel 6 Pro is Googles flagship phone.

Using the term flagship is basically the same in most peoples mind as asking “is this phone as good as…” or “does the phone perform as good as…”. That’s what most are concerned about and hoping for information to make up their mind to either keep, buy or return their device.

 

[Kizzy Catwoman]

Using the term flagship is basically the same in most peoples mind as asking “is this phone as good as…” or “does the phone perform as good as…”. That’s what most are concerned about and hoping for information to make up their mind to either keep, buy or return their device.

Is it as good as is also subjective. If you want a gaming phone then it may not be as good as the ROG phone for that. But the ROG sucks in other areas, like screen quality or audio quality.

The 6 Pro has advanced AI features like call screen and better Google Assistant features. I appreciate those things more than a gaming phone as I don't game.

The cameras are miles better than those on my S10+. Heck even the Pixel 2xl was better than that.

But my Samsung has Dex and I appreciate that on that phone. I prefer Samsung Email to other 3rd party email clients. I like the Good Lock customisation. But in other ways that phone sucks compared to my 6 Pro.

I like the clean Pixel experience better than Samsung's UI overall.

I need different things from different phones, but they are all flagships from their eras.