Re: "Jellybean" Software Update was a TERRIBLE Decision, Want "Ice Cream Sandwich" Back..
So, umm, did this update "F" up anything other than your ability to dictate swear words by voice (which you can still type)? Sometimes the updates are critical and security update and yes, the maker of the phone does have the right to force it on your phone if you are connected to the Internet. Why? Because they have a right not be sued by you when you get a security bug in the previous version affect you. Microsoft does it for Windows all the time. If you keep rejecting Windows updates for long enough, at one point it will auto install and restart your computer.
Duh....!
......... yeah..... yfan!
Thus the reason for my post in the first place.... This was not a "security" related update, but a push to Motorola/Google's jellybean flavor OS... Completely screwed up (can I say "screwed" here?) not only how my home screen looked and acted, but how I had set up my "favorites" contacts with specific features.. and my other home page icons and items. This does not make me feel secure or give me the warm fuzzies knowing that at any given time, and without my permission, that Verizon/Motorola/Google can disregard how I like to have my phone setup and set it the way "they think I should" have it set up. No wonder people are "rooting" their phones....
yfan stated:
"the maker of the phone does have the right to force it on your phone if you are connected to the Internet."
Huh......"right to force it on your phone if you are connected to the Internet"?
No where in my providers contract does it state that they have the right to force an "OS" update without my choice of accepting it whenever I connect to the "internet" or not...... again, this was not a security update, but a complete "OS" push. One I did not want in the first place.
yfan stated:
"Why? Because they have a right not be sued by you when you get a security bug in the previous version affect you."
yfan....! Are you trying to say "because they have a right not
TO be sued by you when you get
AN INFECTION from a virus or worm, by a security bug in a previous version of their OS?
If that is what you were trying to say.... the answer to that is...!
1) Most vendors (FYI... a vendor is a purveyor of a product or service) they usually only push files necessary to secure the OS, without affecting how the system looks to the client. This is called a
behind the scene / seemless modification. However if they (the vendor) do know before hand that a update may have an
"effect" on how the unit looks and works for the client (FYI.... client means a person or entity that the vendor supplies their products or services to), they will usually warn them, the client, in advance that this update could affect how the product may work afterwards and give the them, the client the
"option" to either accept the change or continue using the product without the change/update at their own risk. Thus preventing the client from suing them.
yfan stated:
"Microsoft does it for Windows all the time. If you keep rejecting Windows updates for long enough, at one point it will auto install and restart your computer."
yfan......
So not true....... so not true....
I was an IT professional for 20 years... Built and managed large corporate and govenment WANs... (FYI....
WAN is an acronym for
Wide Area Network).You might want to "bing" the term for more clarification. Any way, I had hundreds of clients attached to these networks and their servers and yes, they, the client had no choice to refuse a security or OS update to their desktops or laptops for that matter. That option was disabled and they were forced to accept the change. But this was not forced upon them by Microsoft. This was a decision made by the management of the corporations and govenment agencies they worked for. And based solely on the security needs of that company or agency.
I have been installing and managing Microsoft Operating Systems since 1984 and never, I reiterate, never once has Microsoft ever
"forced" an update to their OS without the customer/clients knowledge. In my home office I have numerous computers running numerous versions of Microsoft... i.e.: Windows 3.1 (aka: Windows For Workgroup), Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows XP-professional 32 bit and 64 bit, Windows XP Home Edition, Windows Media Center, Windows Vista Ultimate and Home Premium, Windows 7 again professional and home versions, both 32 and 64 bit..... and last but not least Windows 8.
In all of these versions the option was there to either automatically install updates, to be notified of updates prior to being installed... This gave the client control as to what update to accept and when to install it.... and there is a third option the user/client/customer can choose... and that one is "never install updates"....
To me this is how is should be... The customer should have the option to accept or not to accept any modifications to their product.... No one has ever successfully sued MS because they refused an update and due to their refusal, the system was compromised or hacked into and information stolen....
yfan.... if I may suggest... talk to one of your "guidance counselors" or "educational counselors" prior to going to college and see if a basic computer class is being offered at one of the local community colleges. It may be worth it... It may give you some insight into the installation of various OS packages, how they are controlled and what features you can turn on and off on the client side.... You may like it so much, It may set you on the path to a rewarding career in the IT industry. I know I have enjoyed it.... One thing I did learn in my 20 plus years as a systems engineer, was to listen to your client, give them what they want and not what you think they need... Otherwise you run the risk of losing them as a customer.