Just got this Virgin Mobile text..

[Eollie]

Sadly the VM TOS does nothing to stop stupid ppl who brick their handsets from going to VM and complaining and calling in the lawyers and in the end that's what will put a fork in rooting handsets and make sure it's not done again once and for all.. Also abusive tethering which by the looks of the occupy wallstreet crowd (Napster Kids) will happen a lot..

How many people do you know will hire a 300/hr attorney to fight a company because they broke their phone?

When Verizon added this clause they started to repair/replace the device then charge your bill for it. They put a disclaimer in that you had to sign saying you agreed that if they found the device damage not to be covered by warranty then they would charge you via your phone bill. Several people tried to fight it but the attorney's shot it out of the water because of the TOS and disclaimer.

This TOS change actually can stop people from doing as you say. When you agree not to hold VM responsible for what you do to the device and also agree that if you ignore those warning and break it VM has the right to cancel your service. You have very little recourse. You can write letters, call CS, or whatever your heart desires, it wont do any good.

Vm is not going to waste the resources necessary to monitor who is and isnt rooted. Think about that. It would take atleast three people to do this and VM is cheap enough, look at the supposed updates for this phone and the Triumph. Low overhead and high inflow is what they are about.

 

[Paul627g]

From what I've read in this thread this is over a change of TOS, I think LeslieAnn and others have spelled it out very well. They are a company that will make changes as they see fit to protect themselves from people trying to claim bricks and other user created problems from coming off their bottom line to fix/replace. Smartphone companies have always stood firm on their policies behind rooting, tethering and other things mentioned here and always seem to have a rule or amendment to cover themselves in one way or another. This is expected with any company.

As for the random, completely off topic discussion going on in some posts, if we could get back to the topic that would be a great thing.. I'm not sure if I walked into a debate, protest or convention after reading this thread but I need to go take some aspirin...

Back on topic, have a good day.

Paul627g,
Forums Moderator.

 

[pbailey212]

From what I've read in this thread this is over a change of TOS, I think LeslieAnn and others have spelled it out very well. They are a company that will make changes as they see fit to protect themselves from people trying to claim bricks and other user created problems from coming off their bottom line to fix/replace. Smartphone companies have always stood firm on their policies behind rooting, tethering and other things mentioned here and always seem to have a rule or amendment to cover themselves in one way or another. This is expected with any company.

As for the random, completely off topic discussion going on in some posts, if we could get back to the topic that would be a great thing.. I'm not sure if I walked into a debate, protest or convention after reading this thread but I need to go take some aspirin...

Back on topic, have a good day.

Paul627g,
Forums Moderator.

Its because your not wearing an aluminum foil head protector. I think its too late now, aspirin can't save you. you have to admit its entertaining.

sent from my Nokia 5110

 

[anthonycr]

Forums Moderator.

Thanks for clarifying for the people on tapatalk

 

[_Severability_]

Its because your not wearing an aluminum foil head protector. I think its too late now, aspirin can't save you. you have to admit its entertaining.

sent from my Nokia 5110

Exactly.. The power drill and tongs worked better for a quick fix.. This thread is a possible scenario.. Nothing more and some of us like to get cheeky when TOS-ed around.. Being a enigma it has that effect on some of us lol.. I assure everyone here I have no political affiliation or slant.. I am a straight up american who likes constitutionalism and fair play of which I see little in the last few admins and it directly effects us.. I'm pissed..

Get over it and I will too.. Promise.. As our Gov chokes up it's grip on us so do the international corporations that support it.. This TOS provokes that in me as they are all lawyers.. I'm not saying sprint is involved.. There is no disconnect like there should be.. It's corrupt and a ol boy system that means to take over the world but not everyone approved of the class warfare.. I mean facebook boy hauled ass so you know they are idiots..

This is not pc stuff I'm saying here and I get it if some don't want to hear it or see me silenced but being a slave sucks too and I know that's where this ends at some point for many if it is not stemmed.. With the highest corporate tax rate in the industrial world are we really free?? I love America and the free market but look around my friend and be honest.. I know but try.. So how is it relative to the TOS change you might ask hehe.. This story ends with me screaming down a long dirt road RUN MARK RUN!!!

I will vote with my feet on this too if they enforce the TOS.. Unlike facebook boy I have to stay and fight and protect the American way as seen by a American and not the rubber stamped version that's got us in this mess and clogging the system from being accessed by the real american tax payers imo.. All for a vote!! Go figure?? Not fightin over a stupid cellphone sorry..

 

[Paul627g]

Exactly.. The power drill and tongs worked better for a quick fix.. This thread is a possible scenario.. Nothing more and some of us like to get cheeky when TOS-ed around.. Being a enigma it has that effect on some of us lol.. I assure everyone here I have no political affiliation or slant.. I am a straight up american who likes constitutionalism and fair play of which I see little in the last few admins and it directly effects us.. I'm pissed..

Get over it and I will too.. Promise.. As the Gov chokes up it's grip on us so do the corporations that support it.. This TOS provokes that in me.. There is no disconnect like there should be.. I mean facebook boy hauled ass so you know they are idiots.. This is not pc stuff I'm saying here and I get it if some don't want to hear it but being a slave sucks too..

Again, what does any of this benefit Android or the Optimus V in general?

Your entitled to your views and opinions but I don't see what any this brings to the discussion here other than your views on government, speech, rights, etc.

I thought I made a valid point to stop the off topic ramblings or wasn't that clear?

Paul627g
Forums Moderator.






Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Android Central Forums

 

[_Severability_]

Again, what does any of this benefit Android or the Optimus V in general?

Your entitled to your views and opinions but I don't see what any this brings to the discussion here other than your views on government, speech, rights, etc.

I thought I made a valid point to stop the off topic ramblings or wasn't that clear?

Paul627g
Forums Moderator.






Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Android Central Forums

LOL yes Paul it is thank you..

 

[rcsrich]

I'd be really surprised if they started booting people off en masse- so many customers root that I would think they would stand to lose a large percentage of their customers, something that doesn't make good business sense. On the other hand, if you're doing something to raise a flag (consistently blowing your 2.5 GB cap, etc), this certainly gives them a quick & easy way to dump you.

My 2 cent's

 

[_Severability_]

I noticed some were less than amused at the direction this thread went.. Here's the point my friends.. That's how you come across to the carriers for doing your thing.. Deal with it

 

[John Jorsett]

My HTC phone isn't rooted and I got this message as well. I haven't bothered to read the changes; if I later find they've saddled me with some conditions or costs I don't want to live with, I'll just dump VM and find another carrier. Meanwhile, don't get paranoid. They're probably out to get you, but this isn't one of the times.