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[JHBThree]

Brother it has NOTHING to do with understanding or not understanding the tech. It has to do with what a user actually gets in the real world. If HSPA+ is providing faster speeds in the area a person lives in than it is in factv better for that person than what LTE would be. If you have spotty LTE, your phone will be constantly pinging towers for signal, which WILL lead to the battery draining faster. It has also been confirmed in some locations that Sprint LTE is slower than T-Mo HSPA+.

Then there are folks like me, where Sprint refuses to ever provide anything 4G like in the area, yet HSPA+ covers my whole area. LTE will never come to Dayton, OH via Sprint, I have given up on that and as such I will switch to the better network in my area.

No. Just no. Lte has huge advantages when covering large populations. Speed is only half the equation.

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[JHBThree]

just read a posting on t-mobile news showing the one coming 4/24 idk if its true but better than may or june
New T-Mobile Retail Store Planogram Hints At HTC One Release On April 24th | TmoNewsTmoNews

Ha. That's not a planogram. That's something any schmuck could make in word in 5 minutes.

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[henryfool3]

T-Mobile's HTC One launch scheduled for April 24, leaked document shows | PhoneDog

another doc, seems to back up the 24th as the release date.

 

[JHBThree]

T-Mobile's HTC One launch scheduled for April 24, leaked document shows | PhoneDog

another doc, seems to back up the 24th as the release date.

That one is solid proof. Hopefully that holds up. Can't wait to get my One.

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[Bc1534]

You do realize phone dog got it from the same source I put?

 

[LegendaryDrumr]

I hope those documents turn out to he the real deal. If so, I'll keep my LTE until the 24th instead of upgrading on Sprint.

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[stevedebi]

There is also the option of buying an unlocked version from HTC and using that with a T-mobile SIM card. It will cost more up-front, but since T-mobile is doing the no-contract thing anyway, it's not like your phone will be subsidized.

Actually, the HTC unlocked and developer editions don't support AWS modems. That means they will only work for high speed data on those parts of the T-Mobile network that have switched over the 1900 HSPDA or LTE. Otherwise they support only 2 and 3 g.

I went ahead and ordered a dev edition, but I'm not expecting the same coverage as an AWS model that supports the T-Mobile 1900/2100 bands.

 

[JHBThree]

You do realize phone dog got it from the same source I put?

Read further down. They have an updated memo.

 

[return_0]

The only other LTE carrier here is US Cellular and their speeds are showing 3-12 bps, which is really close to what 3G speeds were prior to Verizon LTE.

I really hope that's a typo.

 

[Dreamliner330]

Wait. You're seriously complaining about Verizons lte speeds?

Why not? T-Mo and AT&T have faster data speeds.

 

[JHBThree]

Why not? T-Mo and AT&T have faster data speeds.

Att has a far smaller network, and in areas where it's loaded (like mine) it's slower than Verizons. Tmobiles download speeds usually March or exceed Verizons, but their upload speeds don't even come close.

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[meyerweb#CB]

Funny thing is something they don't be lying on purpose. Some are really clueless.

What's the difference between a used-car salesman and the "customer service" reps at a phone store?

The used car salesman knows when he's lying.

 

[Aquila]

Why not? T-Mo and AT&T have faster data speeds.

Isn't 42 mbps the cap on hspa+? LTE can do faster than that and it might be an AT&T issue here, but I've never seen any AT&T device come close to 20 mbps, while Verizon does 1.5 to 3 times that all day long. And Verizon's service is still unlimited data for a lot of us. The second I see an AT&T device pull 50-60 mbps in my area AND they have those speeds available with unlimited data, I'll be forced to consider the possibility that someone has service that compares to Verizon.

 

[adriandb]

Isn't 42 mbps the cap on hspa+? LTE can do faster than that and it might be an AT&T issue here, but I've never seen any AT&T device come close to 20 mbps, while Verizon does 1.5 to 3 times that all day long. And Verizon's service is still unlimited data for a lot of us. The second I see an AT&T device pull 50-60 mbps in my area AND they have those speeds available with unlimited data, I'll be forced to consider the possibility that someone has service that compares to Verizon.

Is anything really unlimited and without caps though?

 

[rydubois]

No. Just no. Lte has huge advantages when covering large populations. Speed is only half the equation.

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Regardless though, if you have spotty LTE coverage your battery will drain quicker, so in that case I would rather have solid HSPA+ coverage. With Sprint I get terrible 3G and no phone I've owned makes it through an 8 hour work day with moderate use becuase even the 3G coverage is pretty mediocre.

LTE does have benefits over HSPA+ besides speed clearly, and I didn't mean to imply otherwise. What I saw being talked about though was speed and touched only on that point.

Again for me honestly LTE means nothing because VZW is the only carrier in my area with LTE and I will not pay their prices for capped data. So my choices are Sprint with bad 3G or Tmo with solid HSPA+. That is why after nearly 10 years I am done with Sprint.

 

[return_0]

Isn't 42 mbps the cap on hspa+?

168 Mbps, technically.

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[JHBThree]

168 Mbps, technically.

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Not on tmobile.

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[adriandb]

Not on tmobile.

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Isn't theirs dual channel that tops out at 42?

 

[stevedebi]

Isn't theirs dual channel that tops out at 42?

42 is the top speed for their network and they use 1700/2100; one for upload, one for download. I'm not sure which. Their 1900 HSPDA service (which they have been building up) tops out at 21, although LTE will go faster once that is deployed more fully.

 

[Aquila]

42 is the top speed for their network and they use 1700/2100; one for upload, one for download. I'm not sure which. Their 1900 HSPDA service (which they have been building up) tops out at 21, although LTE will go faster once that is deployed more fully.

I think AT&T's network theoretically beats the 42 mark, but I've still never seen it faster than what I get with Verizon in practice.