keyboard map is different from my PC

[pfungus]

I am trying to enter a WPA passphrase into two kindles to allow the owners to access my D-Link home router and go out on to the Internet. The passphrase contains the Grave accent or "back-tick"
or this char (`). I can't find that char anywhere in the keyboard after toggling thru all the pages. Also, the presentation of the keyboard onscreen isn't the same physical presentation as my 104 key keyboard so I can't just press the lower-case tilde key.

which oddball key is the one which corresponds to a grave accent?

 

[epidenimus]

Is it over a letter or on its own? If over a letter, long press that letter and choose the option witth the accent a grave. If it's on its own, then...

If you install Hacker's Keyboard, it is right there next to the '1' in landscape mode. Maybe not the most direct route, but it works and your guests will leave with better keyboards.

I would have a hard time getting on your wireless! LOL

 

[pfungus]

The Hacker's keyboard HUH? That is me. what I would have to have right away. I don't own a tablet (yet) nor an Android phone (yet) so the keyboard issue has never surfaced before hereabouts. Only wifi devices which come in here wanting web access are laptops, netbooks with conventional keyboards.

Which begs the question: why does Kindle( or is it android) have a hybrid keyboard map? Why not conventional keyboard maps like Linux, BSD unix have? I do see there are Euro char, and British Pound sign, and other currency symbols which conventional US 104 keybpoards have none of, in the Kindle keymap; why I call it a hybrid. In Europe? so , use that keymap. Creating ONE keyboard with missing US symbol characters is fraught with consumer anger.

My $0.02

But, these Kindles are not mine. And the owners are not eager to jump into hacking. They want to think it over first. I also could remove the WPA PSK security on the router for awhile but I want to think that over too.

Anyhow, thanks for that suggestion: Hacker's Keyboard. amazing jargon. What occurs to me is that the "hacker's Keyboard" app should be appropriately named "Conventional Keyboard" and the default, called the "Hacker's". But that is just old me.

 

[epidenimus]

Curious from where you are after reading that last post...

The keyboard on mobile devices is quite a subjective matter: some want something very intuitive for SMS and e-mail, yet there are those of us who enter commands, work on forums, and have weird acronyms in our daily lives. Some work in portrait exclusively, some in landscape. I, for one, do both.

And that is why I like Hacker's Keyboard, despite the l33tist monnicker: I am just a regular guy in portrait (except that I have numbers on same screen as my letters)... and I am Superuser Man in landscape. Perfect. The user doesn't have to be a hacker, per se, to use it.

 

[pfungus]

epi,

Hey, I discovered the "long-hold" on a character and that when performed upon the
apostrophe key, one gets 2 choices. They look very much the same.
I wonder if one of the two is actually the "missing" grave accent key.

I experimented. I sent myself email and read it on my desktop. I typed the two
choices which the apostrophe gives. Herewith are those results.

?€˜ ?€™

So, likely one or the other is the grave accent or "back-tick" mark. Now to
discover which of each is actually which.

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Neither of the two apostrophe alternates is the grave accent key. The code for the grave is 64,
not 98 nor 99. It seems that there is no such key on the default keyboard.

Its down to: 1) change the passphrase 2) install Hacker's Keyboard 3) turn off WPA altogether
and the obvious answer is 2) but the path of least resistance is 1).

in a former life, I had a Unix/Linux/Solaris security job. back then, I was motivated to use security overkill,
thus leading to my obnoxious passphrase setting in the wifi router.

 

[pfungus]

More investigating reveals, in an old (2011) posting over in the Amazon.com/forum/kindle area, there was a report that two different people reported that Grave Accent character was missing and they filed an issue with customer support for a feature enhancement to get that key placed into the keyboard. As of April 2012, it had not been added.

In another reply, it was said that in order to have a Grave accent key available, they sent themselves an email on their kindle, containing the Grave character, and when needed, they referred to the email and used cut-and-paste of the single character. Outrageous!