I've had the same problem on/off now for 3 weeks. freaked me out as I had installed Tango app and TiKl app. So 1st time I uninstalled tango and its stayed gone for awhile.. 2nd time my contacts were ballooned up to 64.7MB and I deleted it and resync'd with Google. Just today I deleted Facebook data.. and just had to resign in.. so....... I believe different apps on different phones or perhaps different ROMS... but what do I know......
"Low on space. Application data space is low." notification.
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I've been struggling with the "Low on space" warning for the past few weeks, too. When it occurs, Gmail no longer syncs and Marketplace installs/updates hang. Rebooting temporarily clears the warning and automatically installs the Marketplace updates that were hanging. But then the warning and the issues described above inevitably re-appear.
According to Menu > Settings > SD & phone storage, I have *plenty* of free space:
I followed the suggestions in What Should I Do When My Android Runs Out of Space for Apps? (moving all cooperative apps to the SD card, clearing the cache for apps, verifying that none of the apps are taking up large amounts of data, and uninstalling unused apps), but it hasn't helped.
Does anyone truly know what is causing this? Is it a matter of not enough "phone memory"? I have 59% free! Or is this perhaps being caused by some other vague threshold being reached?
Very frustrating!
According to Menu > Settings > SD & phone storage, I have *plenty* of free space:
Internal phone storage
Total space: 6.46GB
Available space: 6.23GB (96%)
Phone memory
Total space: 748MB
Available space: 449MB (59%)
SD Card
Total space: 14.83GB
Available space: 12.88GB (86%)
Total space: 6.46GB
Available space: 6.23GB (96%)
Phone memory
Total space: 748MB
Available space: 449MB (59%)
SD Card
Total space: 14.83GB
Available space: 12.88GB (86%)
I followed the suggestions in What Should I Do When My Android Runs Out of Space for Apps? (moving all cooperative apps to the SD card, clearing the cache for apps, verifying that none of the apps are taking up large amounts of data, and uninstalling unused apps), but it hasn't helped.
Does anyone truly know what is causing this? Is it a matter of not enough "phone memory"? I have 59% free! Or is this perhaps being caused by some other vague threshold being reached?
Very frustrating!
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Exactly!
I'm having the EXACT same problem! There is plenty of available space for both storages as well as memory, the mail is no longer synch-ing and the app updates are hanging.
Haven't been able to read the proper solution for this. Anybody?
I'm having the EXACT same problem! There is plenty of available space for both storages as well as memory, the mail is no longer synch-ing and the app updates are hanging.
Haven't been able to read the proper solution for this. Anybody?
First ever post on any forum. - i've read in many forums including this one and have heard about all sorts of possible reasons but was unable to find anything concrete. I now have something to offer - i was getting these low memory notifications too for 2 days in a row. could not make sense of it because i too like many others have more than 80% available on both internal and external. i have read about memory leaks in the internal mail program. so what did i find today as i was searching for an image. the Mail program had created 1456 copies of a 299kb image in the mail folder. would that cause that kind of notification?
I've been getting this too and finally yesterday it got to the point where I couldn't receive any text/picture messages, browse the web, download applicatiosn, or use the mail program at all. I'd heard that the HTC Mail client can be the culprit, so I went into applications and deleted all data for Mail. Then when I set all the accounts back up I limited the number of emails to 40, rather than using the # of days settings (although I've read that this will work too) to limit the number of messages that are held in the mail program. I had like 1400 emails in one account's trash folder and I'm thinking that was the issue.
The crappy thing is that there is lots of documentation of this issue all over the web, all sorts of people saying they've contacted both Verizon and HTC about it, and lots of people also saying that when they contact Verizon about they are told that it's the first Verizon has heard of the issue. So yesterday when I called about it because I was not a happy camper that I'd spent 2 hours trying to get my phone to work, I was told the same thing. The level 2 tech I was speaking with could find no documentation of any other issues like mine anywhere in the list of known reported issues and it was the first she'd heard about this type of thing happening. Ugghhhh..... this makes me so freakin' mad!
The crappy thing is that there is lots of documentation of this issue all over the web, all sorts of people saying they've contacted both Verizon and HTC about it, and lots of people also saying that when they contact Verizon about they are told that it's the first Verizon has heard of the issue. So yesterday when I called about it because I was not a happy camper that I'd spent 2 hours trying to get my phone to work, I was told the same thing. The level 2 tech I was speaking with could find no documentation of any other issues like mine anywhere in the list of known reported issues and it was the first she'd heard about this type of thing happening. Ugghhhh..... this makes me so freakin' mad!
Uninstalling the Facebook app and rebooting seems to have taking care of the issue.
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Uninstalling the Facebook app (the updates and clearing data...it wouldn't let me completely uninstall Facebook) and rebooting seems to have taking care of the issue.
Every time it comes up, just clear data for Facebook and any other app that uses a feed (news apps like nytimes, etc). Also, I'd suggest setting Dolphin Browser (if you use it) to cache to the SD card.
Jascias
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This will free up space and stop the errors, but only if you have root.
What is happening? (Credit to Cyansmoker)
You've checked your phone's vitals and it appears that it has plenty of space left, both internal storage and SD Card storage. So, what's happening?
Android allows your applications to store their data, primarily, in a dedicated partition whose size happens to be much smaller than even the phone's internal storage space. Generally south of 150 MBs.
This is the partition that fills up so quickly and that Android has been complaining about.
Link to the app.
The Nexus ? Beta
(Do not use the bar code. Its the one above the bar code. Its called NotEnoughSpace. It works just fine for the DINC)
About this ^^ application
This application's goal is to help you understand and possibly work around a common vexation of using Android; i.e. these messages:
"not enough space"
"Low on space. Application data space is low."
Help example:
Start the app, click on "inspect & Optimize Data Directory" , you will see your apps, click on an app that uses a good amount of space, (I'll click google earth) you will see a folder called "lib", hold down "lib" and a menu will pop up, click on "Move to NES Partition" . Thats it !
Do this ^^ for any app you want (some might not work, but most do). If you want to reverse, just hold down the now grey out "lib" and click restore.
You will now have much more free space an no more errors.
For non Root user, you will have to wait for the update from HTC (yes, they do know about this bug) Sorry about that.
What is happening? (Credit to Cyansmoker)
You've checked your phone's vitals and it appears that it has plenty of space left, both internal storage and SD Card storage. So, what's happening?
Android allows your applications to store their data, primarily, in a dedicated partition whose size happens to be much smaller than even the phone's internal storage space. Generally south of 150 MBs.
This is the partition that fills up so quickly and that Android has been complaining about.
Link to the app.
The Nexus ? Beta
(Do not use the bar code. Its the one above the bar code. Its called NotEnoughSpace. It works just fine for the DINC)
About this ^^ application
This application's goal is to help you understand and possibly work around a common vexation of using Android; i.e. these messages:
"not enough space"
"Low on space. Application data space is low."
Help example:
Start the app, click on "inspect & Optimize Data Directory" , you will see your apps, click on an app that uses a good amount of space, (I'll click google earth) you will see a folder called "lib", hold down "lib" and a menu will pop up, click on "Move to NES Partition" . Thats it !
Do this ^^ for any app you want (some might not work, but most do). If you want to reverse, just hold down the now grey out "lib" and click restore.
You will now have much more free space an no more errors.
For non Root user, you will have to wait for the update from HTC (yes, they do know about this bug) Sorry about that.
try deleting some of your old text messages. i had this problem, and i deleted all the conversations in my text messages and it has been fine every since... just a thought, it worked for me..
Since I have been using App2sd this problem has vanished. It has a feature that clears the cache. Worth the $2.00
I find that it's the MMS messaging that sucks up application space. If I delete a few, it's solved.
I wish I didn't have to, but... there you go.
I wish I didn't have to, but... there you go.
Like thread on this we covered Dec-Jan timeframe.
http://forum.androidcentral.com/droid-incredible/48015-application-data-space-low.html
http://forum.androidcentral.com/droid-incredible/48015-application-data-space-low.html
Hey folks,
I'm new here, but this thread has induced me to actually join rather than remaining a lurker ...
The issue here seems to be application data, not applications themselves. I've run into this a couple times, and initially thought it was too many apps. To tell the truth, I should have known better, having worked for 6 years in the content delivery and caching industry.
The application data at issue is generally content cached from the network, though as many mentioned, some is data created on the device like contact info or camera images, text/pic content, etc. In general, applications should be able to manage the amount they save without our intervention, but it seems there are more than a few that can't do that. A lot of folks posting in this thread seem to think it's a single app that's at fault, because as soon as they clear data for that app, the message goes away. I think it's more likely they just happened to free up enough room to bring the data storage used under the warning threshold.
One thing to remember about this data is that it's there for a reason. When you clear it from the device, next time you start the app that pulled it down, it will have to pull it all down again, taking more time and eating up more bandwidth. Maybe it's not a big deal for those with unlimited data plans, but I understand AT&T, among others is eliminating unlimited plans. Perhaps clearing it willy-nilly isn't a great idea unless it's obviously more than it should be? I've generally avoided wiping data from all apps and stuck with clearing those caches with more than a few megs of data. The dialer storage and social network providers (like com.htc.socialnetwork.provider) seem to be the ones that get large, though the dialer storage app really only stores your call history.
Regardless, as at least one poster here has mentioned, there seems to be a great deal of free space, so why the blazes is this phone telling me my space is getting low? Especially when most (if not all) of that data should be stored on that new 16G microSD card I just bought ...
It seems to me that this threshold is one side of this issue nobody is trying to fix. Clearly, if I have 6G of phone storage and 16G of card storage, I should be able to push a lot more app data onto the phone, yes? Does anyone know if there's a way to tweak this threshold?
Thanks for reading, and for any suggestions.
I'm new here, but this thread has induced me to actually join rather than remaining a lurker ...
The issue here seems to be application data, not applications themselves. I've run into this a couple times, and initially thought it was too many apps. To tell the truth, I should have known better, having worked for 6 years in the content delivery and caching industry.
The application data at issue is generally content cached from the network, though as many mentioned, some is data created on the device like contact info or camera images, text/pic content, etc. In general, applications should be able to manage the amount they save without our intervention, but it seems there are more than a few that can't do that. A lot of folks posting in this thread seem to think it's a single app that's at fault, because as soon as they clear data for that app, the message goes away. I think it's more likely they just happened to free up enough room to bring the data storage used under the warning threshold.
One thing to remember about this data is that it's there for a reason. When you clear it from the device, next time you start the app that pulled it down, it will have to pull it all down again, taking more time and eating up more bandwidth. Maybe it's not a big deal for those with unlimited data plans, but I understand AT&T, among others is eliminating unlimited plans. Perhaps clearing it willy-nilly isn't a great idea unless it's obviously more than it should be? I've generally avoided wiping data from all apps and stuck with clearing those caches with more than a few megs of data. The dialer storage and social network providers (like com.htc.socialnetwork.provider) seem to be the ones that get large, though the dialer storage app really only stores your call history.
Regardless, as at least one poster here has mentioned, there seems to be a great deal of free space, so why the blazes is this phone telling me my space is getting low? Especially when most (if not all) of that data should be stored on that new 16G microSD card I just bought ...
It seems to me that this threshold is one side of this issue nobody is trying to fix. Clearly, if I have 6G of phone storage and 16G of card storage, I should be able to push a lot more app data onto the phone, yes? Does anyone know if there's a way to tweak this threshold?
Thanks for reading, and for any suggestions.
keyslaper - great explanation!
The problem is that the partition that most apps and system apps use to store themselves and cache is limited and not user resizable. With Froyo we have the ability to move apps to the SD card which alleviates the problem a bit, but the app has to be coded to support apps2sd to begin with.
Another problem is sloppy coding that does not clean up old temp/cache files when the app needs to. As you know Dev's love to code cool stuff - they don't like the housework and cleanup afterwards.
Some apps do store their data on the SD Card, which is good - others won’t work if they are moved to the SD card so at the end of the day it still is our responsibility to manage this. It should not be - but unfortunately, it is.
The problem is that the partition that most apps and system apps use to store themselves and cache is limited and not user resizable. With Froyo we have the ability to move apps to the SD card which alleviates the problem a bit, but the app has to be coded to support apps2sd to begin with.
Another problem is sloppy coding that does not clean up old temp/cache files when the app needs to. As you know Dev's love to code cool stuff - they don't like the housework and cleanup afterwards.
Some apps do store their data on the SD Card, which is good - others won’t work if they are moved to the SD card so at the end of the day it still is our responsibility to manage this. It should not be - but unfortunately, it is.
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Whatever the reason for this error, I simply can't get it to go away. I've used 1Tap Cleaner, moved apps to SD and uninstalled several unused apps. Still the error persists. I have more free memory now than before it appeared. I'm this close to a system reset.
TJH
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