Once again I've been misunderstood my 'hacking, was in quotes The man in the street was going to want to get ,down and dirty, with theOs in order to connect to adhoc wifis in cafes bars etc and on certain mobiles. Just saying ,mine works, all the time ISN,t really much of a structured argument anyway forget it I've clearly found this to be an issue the majority clearly have not. Fair play
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Its not an issue I posted a while back that there are ways to make it work if your rooted you own the device do you not? Do a supplemental root leave it on stock firmware and add the file needed ad hoc is a dying breed bro not many use it I've never been anywhere that uses an ad hoc infrastructure
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This is an interesting discussion.
I have to agree with the OP. Without connectivity a competent productivty tool turns into a glorified PMP. Back in PDA times, I had this issue with my Palm TX while commuting, particularly when I changed dumb phone and couldn't tether any more. I own an Archos G9 tablet and without it's 3G stick, its a nice device. Connected, it's virtually replaced my MacBook (not that I was a hardcore, power user who needed PhotoShop and high end music editing tools).
3 or 4G is definitely a key element for tablets.
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I have to agree with the OP. Without connectivity a competent productivty tool turns into a glorified PMP. Back in PDA times, I had this issue with my Palm TX while commuting, particularly when I changed dumb phone and couldn't tether any more. I own an Archos G9 tablet and without it's 3G stick, its a nice device. Connected, it's virtually replaced my MacBook (not that I was a hardcore, power user who needed PhotoShop and high end music editing tools).
3 or 4G is definitely a key element for tablets.
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At this point its non issue the people spoke Google is replying with a cell connected version of the nex7
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Second useless post I've seen from you in 10 mins. Get some rest, come back when you're refreshed.
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I edited my post, it was a little nasty, I'll admit. I was actually referring to how he said the people who use word, like schools and business "and stuff" are in the minority. Saying something like that gives a strong impression. Btw, what was the first useless post?
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Until I can tether the data on an iPhone for free, I'll have to disagree about Apple products being more flexible with WiFi. I'll ask one more time out of curiosity, since you still have not answered the question. Do you not have a phone that you can tether? If so, why are you bothering with ad hoc? It seems odd that you have a tablet, and a 3g laptop, but not a smartphone.
I respect your opinion, but I don't agree that the lack of support for an archaic and insecure form of connection that almost nobody uses is a failing, or makes the iPad better as a mobile device.
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Curious where one finds ad-hoc networks. This isn't part of the argument, it is an honest question. I have never ran into one that I know of, and I connect on college campuses, downtown wireless zones, coffee stores, and hotels and haven't ran into anything that I couldn't connect to (that wasn't secured anyway), or that I have been able to recognize as something other than a normal wi-fi hotspot. I live in Southern California.
Older forms of wireless data are more prevalent farther away from centers of civilization like Cali. Ad-hoc is a popular way of extending a single WiFi network in some places, kind of like daisy chaining power strips.
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This started out with the man tryingto connect his N7 to his Dell laptop which had a phone card in it. He wanted to use an adhoc type wifi connection which he could not get the N7 to recognize. He then planned to use the N7 on the internet through his laptop which was connected over the phone. Like Blackberry bridge I quess. He didn't say that he was running into ad hoc connections elsewhere.
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Sometimes it takes provocative questions to fire up lively discourse...
I tried Wifi Direct with my HTC Amaze(ing chunk of crap) and and never got it to function. I blame the Amaze but I'd appreciate any tips on how it SHOULD work. Really, sincere question here - - my Amaze no longer connects to our Cisco routers @ work, and i barely get 2G st my desk. N7 connects like a champion, so (please contain your laughter) i need to tether my phone to the N7. I know, crazy. :screwy:
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Thank you - I was beginning to fell very isolated. I guess it's hard to see if you have good comms, what it's like when you don't. I have taken on board the guys comments that tablets are about "consumption" of content. It the connectivity that makes these devices useful. My original post title was a little "OTT" but designed to provoke a lively discussion.
The variety of use of these devices is showing through in this thread and that's a good thing.
I do agree that I have an unusual collection of devices. I've also tried to "review" the N7 in isolation rather than assuming everybody has a phone (probably not a bad assumption tho these days). It's a a bit like saying Godfather III was a poor film but not to worry as Godfather II was brilliant.
I've found one thing the iPad can do that the N7 can't, I agree if that one issue is a "non-issue" for you that doesn't make the N7 a "bad" device.
Ultimately there'll be all flavours of these things for sale, non 3g/4G and 3G/4G, as with all goods consumers will decide what features they need (and don't need).
Maybe we are destined to carry TWO devices, a comms device and a display device, after all people wouldn't be seen dead making a phone call on a device the size of an iPad !
We agree on one thing at least. Godfather lll was terrible. I mean seriously, what the hell Francis Ford Coppola?
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I'm assuming that you don't mean using your mobile phone as a hotspot? That works great for me. Phone is in my bag or charging somewhere and within twenty feet or so I am using my Nexus 7.
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His mobile "phone" is his Dell laptop presumably running some form of Linux. Windows 7 has software for establishing ad hoc connection so I presume Linux also does. There is also Linux software called Hostapd. Google Hostapd for Linux. This is supposed to do what Connectify does with Win7 - Establish a hot spot if the host computer is connected to the internet. His host computer is the Dell laptop running Linux and connected to the internet with a SIMS card. I know nothing about Linux but can say that Connectify gives me a wireless hot spot on my Win7 laptop actually in range extender mode. Has the man who can tried the Linux Hostapd software out on his machine?
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Well, if the Nexus 7 is a toy, then I got the wrong item. Yes, a tablet can quite easily be a toy, the Kindle is mostly toy in it's structure. It's meant almost 100% for entertainment. The Nexus 7 (and Samsung Galaxy, and a couple of others) are not 100% entertainment geared. In my opinion the OP is trying to take a usage statistic of current owners of tablets like the Kindle, Nexus, etc and build a strawman's argument with it. Yes, they can be toys, but most of them can also be very useful tools. I'll use myself as an example: I just got a Nexus 7 due to my failing eyesight. I am not going to nor desire to use it for entertainment as it would be useless for me to use it in that capacity. I'm using it as several things:
1) A remote for my Logitech Squeezebox Touch (which is the same price as a tablet, but it's a one trick pony and could also be called a toy). That said though, it's also a huge money saver. Saved me $160 the minute I took it out of the box). Why am I using it to control my Squeezebox? I can't see the screen until I'm on top of it and that's with glasses! With the tablet I can control it from 10 feet or what ever. I have narrow canal Gloucoma which is untreatable except buy super expensive surgery so eventually I won't even be able to read a book.
2) Portable databases. No more having to print out databases every time I update and take all this paper with me. I'll have it all at the touch of a screen and be able to work with it to boot, all at point.
3) I prefer printed books for reading, but in future I may need the help of a tablet for that via either enlarged font or audio reading.
4) Probably many more uses other than entertainment as I learn.
So for people such as myself, it's a very useful device and the Nexus 7 being a true Android device, untethered to a particular eco-system, makes it all the more useful.
So really at the end of the day everyone's mileage will vary. We all use tablets for different reasons. Those who don't want one don't have to buy one, but they should also be considerate of those who feel one of these tablets helps them in some way. If I wanted a smart phone, why would I 1) run out and get a wi-fi tablet and 2) come into a forum geared to the use of such tablets and start calling tablets useless expensive toys in an attempt to appear superior to those who own a tablet?
Just doesn't make any sense to me and is an incredible waste of time and energy.
1) A remote for my Logitech Squeezebox Touch (which is the same price as a tablet, but it's a one trick pony and could also be called a toy). That said though, it's also a huge money saver. Saved me $160 the minute I took it out of the box). Why am I using it to control my Squeezebox? I can't see the screen until I'm on top of it and that's with glasses! With the tablet I can control it from 10 feet or what ever. I have narrow canal Gloucoma which is untreatable except buy super expensive surgery so eventually I won't even be able to read a book.
2) Portable databases. No more having to print out databases every time I update and take all this paper with me. I'll have it all at the touch of a screen and be able to work with it to boot, all at point.
3) I prefer printed books for reading, but in future I may need the help of a tablet for that via either enlarged font or audio reading.
4) Probably many more uses other than entertainment as I learn.
So for people such as myself, it's a very useful device and the Nexus 7 being a true Android device, untethered to a particular eco-system, makes it all the more useful.
So really at the end of the day everyone's mileage will vary. We all use tablets for different reasons. Those who don't want one don't have to buy one, but they should also be considerate of those who feel one of these tablets helps them in some way. If I wanted a smart phone, why would I 1) run out and get a wi-fi tablet and 2) come into a forum geared to the use of such tablets and start calling tablets useless expensive toys in an attempt to appear superior to those who own a tablet?
Just doesn't make any sense to me and is an incredible waste of time and energy.
I didn't think I was was saying N7 (I have one after all) was "useless", I never posted that. I'm saying I've found them "less" useful as (unlike iPad) they only connect to "full" AP infrastructure Wi-Fi and as such won't "tether" to my Dell 430 running 3G with Win7 and "Connectify" software, some (not all) mobiles or to "Ad-Hoc" wireless networks which seem to be common in pubs and cafes when I'm out and about. My original post title is deliberately "OTT" to provoke a response, it has !
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[3]extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[4] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Just saying........
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