Motorola Bionic

[hoosiercub]

The new Blur is the least noticeable skin of Android of them all. What's the big deal? It's not that bad. And its more battery friendly than Sense.

Locked bootloader a fail? Give me a break. The DX is both rooted and runs custom Roms. What more do you want? You can still put pretty themes on your fancy phone.

Check out the DX forums and look out there screenshots. If you're not impressed because of your pre judgement then you shouldn't even bother stepping into or looking at MOTO devices because they all will look the . The locked down bootloader has 'work arounds' but its still locked down.. last time I checked.. CM6 still wasn't available for the DX, because of said bootloader. There are tons of ****ty vanilla, deodexed roms out there for the DX, but nothing with quality AOSP style like Cyanogen. It's not about themes, its about freedom here. I ditched Sense on my Incredible, for CM6, and I intend on doing the same in the future with any Android phone I get.

The only advantage I can see to this phone is the Tegra chipset, and since I'm not a big mobile gamer, I have an iPad and an Alienware laptop for that, I have no need to have all that 3D power on my phone, if I can play tower defense and angry birds, then its more than sufficient and I think a lot of other users are probably the same way. When Android OS runs natively in a dual-core processor environment, then I assume it will matter, because Froyo doesn't, Gingerbread doesn't and Honeycomb does.. but Honeycomb still doesn't truly 'exist' on a device that we, the public, can get our hands on at this moment.

You are also kidding yourself if you think you're going to buy the Droid Bionic in Q1/Q2 and see honeycomb on it before the end of 2011, or even within the one year mark of its release, not due to hardware restrictions obviously, but more so to do with the vast difference in Froyo/Gingerbread and Honeycomb.

So if you're a super-duper hardcore Android platform, phone gamer.. then go right on ahead and get in line for the Bionic, because you're going to want it for the TegraZone app and the games it'll link you to. Otherwise the still completely relevant single-core Qualcomm phones, like the Thunderbolt, will do just fine for light gaming, and multitasking.

 

[Chris Kerrigan]

Calm down, let's keep this civil please.

 

[Chris Kerrigan]

No, you cut the crap.. and stop being a Moto Fanboy.

I won't discuss this any more in this thread. That is enough to warrant a warning, and the rules also specifically state to take up an issue privately, not here.

 

[mclarryjr]

All off topic post have been removed.

 

[Smitty_82]

I am looking forward to having mirrored hdmi hookup. That is the biggest selling factor for me right now.

 

[jebulls]

I can't wait for this phone to come out and me retire my BB!! I regret choosing the bold over the X this summer and will have an update at the end of march! Seems like perfect timing!!!!!

 

[CBCstillmatic]

Now that I looked further into the Bionic the only real let down hardware wise was the cut from 1GB RAM to 512MB, other than that it is top notch. As a Moto/Verizon supporter it just stinks knowing AT&T will essentially have the same phone just more memory and cool accessories.

I love my Droid X and Moto hardware so this will most likely be my next phone but I do have until July to worry about it.

 

[lsramair]

I had alot of Hands-On time with the Bionic at CES yesterday. I took a video of it running quadrant where it destroyed any other quadrant ive ever seen (from a bone stock device). It was a 2284.

It destroyed the Thunderbolt at quadrant, and tied the Atrix.

 

[BrownHornet72]

Well seeing as I'm not due for a legitimate upgrade with Big Red until 2012, I'm not too anxious...just a little. The Bionic will support Flash AND HTML 5 so that's pretty sweet. I just wish Moto would have did a walk through with the Bionic like they did with the Atrix!! But until I decide to upgrade, I'll have to wait. Plus I'm still thoroughly enjoying my rooted, overclocked (1.35ghz @ low voltage) TranQ'd out Droid X!! It'll be even sweeter if that laptop dock will also be available for the bionic too!! I WANT THAT!!

 

[quikric]

Now that I looked further into the Bionic the only real let down hardware wise was the cut from 1GB RAM to 512MB, other than that it is top notch. As a Moto/Verizon supporter it just stinks knowing AT&T will essentially have the same phone just more memory and cool accessories.

I love my Droid X and Moto hardware so this will most likely be my next phone but I do have until July to worry about it.

I agree completely. My contract is up in August, so I have plenty of time to look at, and play with all the new phones once they start showing up at Big Reds.

 

[thebizz]

I doubt the 512 will be an issue 1gig would be nice but not needed for this device. For the atrix I can see it with Linux running for the. Desktop dock but this should suffice with just about anything your trying to do.
and my upgrade date was in Nov I've been waiting for something worthy to be released hopefully this wont take to long to make it to the market

 

[jwcarroll01]

would just love for motorola to release a stock android phone on VZW and I'd be happy

 

[tomgillotti]

"Selling their soul to Apple..." "not getting the best flagship products..."

It's called business, folks.

Verizon can't simply get the best of everything. If they had the best HTC, best Moto, best Samsung, best LG, and best Apple products... they would dominate. Different carriers are going to get different deals.

All the players involved have to try and keep everyone happy. HTC and Moto know iPhone is coming. They know that will impact their ability to sell phones in Q1/Q2 at Verizon.

So compromises are made. Moto says we'll push harder at AT&T on some of those iPhone 3GS customers that might be getting ready to come off contract (released June 8, 2009, 2 year agreement would end June 2011) and give them a slightly better product (better RAM, better accessories). HTC says we'll release maybe a bit earlier, but we're not going to throw the more expensive components (dual core) into the phone.

They're going to let the iPhone rush subside, and let those customers get into their nice long 2 year contracts.

I would imagine in Q3/Q4 you'll see the Thunderbolt 2 or something like that from HTC. It will be the phone the original Thunderbolt should have been, with a dual core processor, etc.

Same thing with Moto. Late this year or very early next year you'll see a Bionic 2 or their next flagship device, just like you saw with Droid being released on Nov. 6, 2009, Droid X on July 15, 2010 (8 months later). It would make sense if they release in April to have the next gen in December for the Christmas rush.

My two cents. It's just business. I haven't played with blur, but I don't like the idea of not being able to do whatever I want on a phone due to it being locked down. Only time will tell.

Well stated. I get the feeling that all of the phones that debuted this past week are purposely limited in their capabilities. The manufacturers have the technologies to release some incredible super phones, but that wouldn't make much business sense. The end of 2011 should be interesting and I would expect some great devices. I am going to hold on and wait to see what releases towards the end of next year on Verizon. Hopefully by then I will know how much longer before I am covered by the 4g LTE network.

Still wondering why they didn't include a dedicated camera button on this device...?

 

[STC09]

would just love for motorola to release a stock android phone on VZW and I'd be happy

What could be better than a Nexus M world phone on Verizon?

 

[TuxDotKing]

What could be better than a Nexus M world phone on Verizon?

Something tells me moving forward, this is going to be the best thing about Verizon going LTE; now that the network is semi-open, future Nexus phones will finally be able to run on it.

 

[Chris Kerrigan]

Going forward you're absolutely right, it'll just be a long wait before LTE becomes the norm like 3G is now.

 

[STC09]

Even then, phones will likely require a special radio for Verizon's virtually unique LTE frequency.

 

[CSM-101]

Battery Size

As much as I want to get rid of Motorola this phone has caught my eye if its released in the next few months I will pick it up but if their shooting for a June launch count me out from now on I'm doing one year contracts and I can have a TB very soon then upgrade 10mo later this would be almost halfway though my contract though if I wait I get my new every two discount. This d2 may be able to hold me over. But one more thing what size is the battery in this beast

I punched in "DROID BIONIC" in You Tube and came across a video from the Motorola booth at CES and guy at the booth said it has 1925 mah, witch I think is the same as the Atrix..

 

[CSM-101]

Now that I looked further into the Bionic the only real let down hardware wise was the cut from 1GB RAM to 512MB, other than that it is top notch. As a Moto/Verizon supporter it just stinks knowing AT&T will essentially have the same phone just more memory and cool accessories.

I love my Droid X and Moto hardware so this will most likely be my next phone but I do have until July to worry about it.

This is what I've learned from watching hands on video's and reading different articles about the RAM in the Bionic and the Atrix:

Bionic - 512 MB DDR2 RAM

Atrix - 1 GB SDRAM

From what I understand DDR2 is twice as fast as SDRAM (and sometimes more than 2x faster) of the same value. If this is true, the Bionic's 512mb of DDR2 is just as fast if not faster the the Atrix's 1gb of SDRAM.

 

[CSM-101]

I had alot of Hands-On time with the Bionic at CES yesterday. I took a video of it running quadrant where it destroyed any other quadrant ive ever seen (from a bone stock device). Pretty sure it was a 2800.

It destroyed the Thunderbolt at quadrant, and tied the Atrix.

I would love to see that video. Could you post it on You Tube so everyone could see it?