My Rant on the iPhone 5s

[anon5664829]

what Apple did was move their custom ARM-based system-on-a-chip processors to 64-bits so that someday you could have iPads and iPhones with a lot more memory in them

That day isn?t today. The iPhone 5S still has 1GB of memory (not storage, memory, the place where programs run) and you only need 64-bit chips when you want to go past 4GB of memory. And it?s important to note that most programs (almost 100% of them?!) will continue to be written in 32-bit code to support the 95+% of iPhones that won?t have the new A7 chip but will support the developer?s apps.

So that leaves Apple able to run mostly its own code faster and better on the new chip and some developers able to also take advantage. This is a good thing, but for Twitter and Facebook FB and Gmail, you are not likely going to notice. In fact, those apps could all benefit more from code optimization than from trying to brute force better performance on the processor side. And by moving to more bits rather than just a faster clock speed, that brute forcing is unlikely to feel like a detectable improvement anyway.

What did quad core processors allow in mobile?

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[Rule9]

What did quad core processors allow in mobile?

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Isn't that the subject for another thread?

I think you're making the mistake of confusing the difference between whether I think the a7 64 bit chip is a good idea for the future and whether its an incentive for me to buy one now. The answer to that is yes to the first to no to the second

 

[Aquila]

What did quad core processors allow in mobile?

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Overcoming touch wiz? /s
There aren't many apps taking full advantage of that tech either. The "need" for quad core on a phone is hard to justify given the X8 and A6/A7.

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[DroidArmy]

Ahh my head hurts please stop arguing about 64 bit and 32 bit. I can't keep up with this constant back and forth

 

[Rule9]

Ahh my head hurts please stop arguing about 64 bit and 32 bit. I can't keep up with this constant back and forth

There's a 64-bit headache app coming out soon

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[DroidArmy]

Overcoming touch wiz? /s
There aren't many apps taking full advantage of that tech either. The "need" for quad core on a phone is hard to justify given the X8 and A6/A7.

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There's no "need" really, but I like 4 cores. With 4 cores you get more power than with 2. It may not mean a ton to the average person, but I run so many processes on my phone. I zip large files, put together videos and export them, and tons of other heavy processor functions. 4 cores would help a lot. I still use 2, but I can see the use for 4 cores

 

[anon5664829]

Isn't that the subject for another thread?

I think you're making the mistake of confusing the difference between whether I think the a7 64 bit chip is a good idea for the future and whether its an incentive for me to buy one now. The answer to that is yes to the first to no to the second

Thing is, what I'm finding, not in you but other people. They are so quick to jump on Apple saying what does 64 bit open up

BUT they praise Samsung and other companies for making quad core phones and tablets which also provide no use and just suck battery. Again its not fair to be so hypocritical.

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[DroidArmy]

Thing is, what I'm finding, not in you but other people. They are so quick to jump on Apple saying what does 64 bit open up

BUT they praise Samsung and other companies for making quad core phones and tablets which also provide no use and just suck battery. Again its not fair to be so hypocritical.

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Whoah hold on a second, they do have a use. Okay 8 cores is gimmicky and burns through a lot of power, but I can see 4 cores. I've used a few 4 core phones, and they do have their advantages. Don't be so fast to write them off

 

[Aquila]

Whoah hold on a second, they do have a use. Okay 8 cores is gimmicky and burns through a lot of power, but I can see 4 cores. I've used a few 4 core phones, and they do have their advantages. Don't be so fast to write them off

What I meant I'd that it isn't really opening up much in terms of added user facing functionality, at least not yet. Streamlining and/or possible speed increases surely are added, just like is possible with the move to 64-bit.

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[DroidArmy]

What I meant I'd that it isn't really opening up much in terms of added user facing functionality, at least not yet. Streamlining and/or possible speed increases surely are added, just like is possible with the move to 64-bit.

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Alright, I can see that. I thought you were writing off 4 core processors all together.

 

[Aquila]

I think both changes add more potential future advantage than realized immediate gain.

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[anon5664829]

I think both changes add more potential future advantage than realized immediate gain.

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So again, why are quad core processors which will only show gain in the future praised yet the 64 bit processor which also will show gains in the future bashed?

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[DroidArmy]

So again, why are quad core processors which will only show gain in the future praised yet the 64 bit processor which also will show gains in the future bashed?

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Because 64 bit is only half-baked at the moment. Apple is the only one who has implemented it on a mobile device. Once that changes, people will praise it more

 

[Aquila]

We've had over a year to get used to quad core phones and we have android devices with 2-3GB RAM, coming code to being able to take better advantage if the traditionally perceived advantage of a 64-bit system. To me, Apple making the jump now makes the most sense in terms of laying the ground work for the future than their current hardware and software needs seem to immediately require. That makes it feel strange to brag about.

Just my take on the discussion so far.

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[GMasonDragonDad]

How about apple making a phone with some macho appeal? Plastic i can accept.. But the pastel colors? please give me a break! I want a reliable and rugged tool without having to get an otter box to protect it and hide all the "prettiness".

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[Farish]

Because 64 bit is only half-baked at the moment. Apple is the only one who has implemented it on a mobile device. Once that changes, people will praise it more

Not half baked, more like a dessert before the main course.

 

[pappy53]

The iPhone 5S still has 1GB of memory

That is an unknown at this time.

 

[anon5664829]

That is an unknown at this time.

Actually. Pattern shows other then the 3GS no other S model has increased RAM.

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[DroidArmy]

Not half baked, more like a dessert before the main course.

I actually would call it half baked, only because Apple is the only one with it. It's just the beginning of a 64 bit world

 

[DroidArmy]

That is an unknown at this time.

True, but we can take a pretty good guess it's 1 gb