New articles by TheVerge on the Bixby disaster

[quietlybrilliant]

I mostly agree:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/18/16326636/samsung-bixby-button-bloatware

Also there's this article: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...samsung-bixby-button-galaxy-s8-note-8-disable

Has anybody received the update yet?

And a third article today:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/18/16308924/samsung-galaxy-note-8-live-messages-how-to-pen

FYI, a few weeks ago, TheVerge already reviewed the Note 8 pretty positively, with the biggest gripe being the tele camera (has anybody else confirmed that it's bad?): https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/5/16253308/samsung-galaxy-note-8-review
as well as Bixby: https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/19/15998258/samsung-bixby-voice-galaxy-s8-review

 

[toenail_flicker]

Re: Three (!) new articles from TheVerge on the Note 8 today

thanks. love this one so much and I agree on what I've read so far.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/18/16326636/samsung-bixby-button-bloatware

 

[quietlybrilliant]

FWIW I don't see the option to turn off Bixby, which this article describes too: https://thenextweb.com/apps/2017/09/18/samung-galaxy-s8-bixby-button/#.tnw_UragwiLl. Good thing I have ten days to return the phone, which I will certainly do if I don't get an option to remove Bixby and remap the button to something more useful.

 

[tuckertje01]

Get app Bixby Remapper and the world is o.k. again and you can enjoy your amazing smartphone.

 

[kevinpleasants]

But watch what they say about IPhone X Siri button..... (Rant coming)...People complain about the button and how they're acciddently pressing it, smh. It's not Samsung's fault that you keep pressing the wrong button. People should pay attention to what they're doing and just press the right button. It's not hard to do. So I guess people also turn the volumn up when they mean to press the volumn down because they press the wrong button? If people would study the tutorials and learn how Bixby works they wouldn't complain that Bixby isn't good. And stop comparing it to Google Assistance. I took the time to learn and then train Bixby to my needs. It took practice but Bixby has learned my word pronunciation. Lastly, I feel if you didnt want a Bixby button you should have bought a different phone. I appreciate Samsung designing Bixby and giving me options to control my phone in different ways when needed.....But I bet IPhone X Siri button will be praised. (Rant over) lol.

 

[Broken Vet]

I got it this morning, so I'm betting that you'll get it soon. It still brings Bixby voice up if you hold the key down, so doesn't appear to turn Bixby off completely.

 

[thoots]

Whoever wrote that "The Verge" article obviously doesn't know much about cameras and sensors. Yes, it's true that the wide-angle camera has a slightly larger sensor than the zoom-lens camera, but the difference in size is essentially negligible. If you want to talk about image quality, run your phone through a shredder and get a "real" camera, with a sensor ten or twenty times larger, or more. And the difference between a 1.7 mm and a 2.4 mm aperture is also minimal -- go look at a cheap zoom camera, and you'll see zoom apertures around 6.0 or so. 2.4 mm is nothing to gripe about, whatsoever. In the end, yes, technically, the wide-angle camera is better than the zoom-lens camera, but I expect that anyone using a camera phone wouldn't notice any difference at all. If you take a small crop from similar pictures taken with each camera and blow them up to a large size, yes, then you might be able to discern a small difference, but in the normal usage of most people who use camera phones, nobody is going to notice any difference. Put those pictures on Facebook, which is going to cut the image quality back at least a fair amount, and nobody is going to notice the difference. And so on.

If this makes it through, here is a shot from the zoom-lens camera:

 

[JHBThree]

Whoever wrote that "The Verge" article obviously doesn't know much about cameras and sensors. Yes, it's true that the wide-angle camera has a slightly larger sensor than the zoom-lens camera, but the difference in size is essentially negligible. If you want to talk about image quality, run your phone through a shredder and get a "real" camera, with a sensor ten or twenty times larger, or more. And the difference between a 1.7 mm and a 2.4 mm aperture is also minimal -- go look at a cheap zoom camera, and you'll see zoom apertures around 6.0 or so. 2.4 mm is nothing to gripe about, whatsoever. In the end, yes, technically, the wide-angle camera is better than the zoom-lens camera, but I expect that anyone using a camera phone would notice any difference at all. If you take a small crop from similar pictures taken with each camera and blow them up to a large size, yes, then you might be able to discern a small difference, but in the normal usage of most people who use camera phones, nobody is going to notice any difference. Put those pictures on Facebook, which is going to cut the image quality back at least a fair amount, and nobody is going to notice the difference. And so on.

If this makes it through, here is a shot from the zoom-lens camera:

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In low light the difference is huge, owing to the smaller sensor and smaller aperture. The difference between a 1.7 and 2.4 aperture is huge. The 1.7 can transmit almost 100% more light than the 2.4 to the sensor, which coupled with a smaller sensor can be a very bad thing. (Which is why the zoom lens is terrible in low light)

Oh and the reason why those zoom cameras can get away with their apertures is because of their sensor size and lens composition. Just like how a dSLR will take great pictures at apertures that would be considered awful on a smartphone.

 

[thoots]

Got any examples of the difference?

 

[scribe4food]

Bixby button isn't working while I hold it down. Anyone else experiencing this?

 

[JHBThree]

Got any examples of the difference?

Like, picture examples? I don't have any right now because I deleted all the low light zoomed ones because of how bad they were.

 

[Dr Claw]

I got it this morning, so I'm betting that you'll get it soon. It still brings Bixby voice up if you hold the key down, so doesn't appear to turn Bixby off completely.

You can shut off Bixby Voice as well from Bixby Home:

 

[y2jdmbfan]

You can shut off Bixby Voice as well from Bixby Home:

Any way of disabling without first enabling and giving Samsung access to all of our accounts?

 

[Broken Vet]

Bixby button isn't working while I hold it down. Anyone else experiencing this?

Try changing your settings to Simplified List.