New to rooting...

[splmonster]

Okay so I have basically read and gone through as much information as possible. Currently I have a 2.2 stock EVO, and really would love to use CM6 Rom and uncap that pesky FPS cap. Could anyone give me instructions on what to do, and how to? All help is appreciated

 

[DaveNagy]

I'd read this entire sticky thread, and then watch this series of vids. The combination has gotten me fairly well up to speed.

 

[igotsanevo4g]

Okay so I have basically read and gone through as much information as possible. Currently I have a 2.2 stock EVO, and really would love to use CM6 Rom and uncap that pesky FPS cap. Could anyone give me instructions on what to do, and how to? All help is appreciated

All the info you need is in the sticky, I recommend doing simple root after you roll back if you want cm6.

dont be intimidated either, you won't brick it, and its really not that hard just be patient.

 

[akirhol]

One thing I want to make note of that hung me up this morning... I used SimpleRoot then installed Clockworks ROM Manager. Great app, but it needs a SuperUser control app to work right otherwise you will end up with an error regarding running privileged commands when you attempt to flash the custom clockworks recovery.

Grab the Superuser program from Market (released by ChainsDD) and you should get a prompt to allow root access the next time you install the recovery partition. Allow and all will go well from there on. I'm fairly certain CM6 will already have a SU control program so you won't have to deal with that again.

 

[splmonster]

So I can't root 2.2? I have to roll back to 2.1? Also with ROM's, I also need to install a kernel or no?

 

[mr.wizard]

No.
Yes.
No, but you can flash different ones. A kernal should be included, stock or otherwise

 

[splmonster]

Okay so the new method of rooting 2.2 on the Evo won't work? I read it on the Android central front page.

 

[igotsanevo4g]

Okay so the new method of rooting 2.2 on the Evo won't work? I read it on the Android central front page.

What are you talking about.. 2.2 itself isn't rootable, so we roll back too 2.1 , root, then flash a 2.2 rom with all the 2.2 goodies and root goodies.

Make sense?

 

[KSmithInNY]

Okay so the new method of rooting 2.2 on the Evo won't work? I read it on the Android central front page.

Hey SPL,

Let me help clarify a little bit for you. 2.2 in itself isn't rootable (yet) so the process actually rolls you back to 2.1 so you can root THEN flash a 2.2 rooted ROM.

Think of it as a second chance for all the people who jumped on the official OTA and a breath of fresh air for those who got an EVO with 2.2 already pre-loaded

 

[akirhol]

Hey SPL,

Let me help clarify a little bit for you. 2.2 in itself isn't rootable (yet) so the process actually rolls you back to 2.1 so you can root THEN flash a 2.2 rooted ROM.

Think of it as a second chance for all the people who jumped on the official OTA and a breath of fresh air for those who got an EVO with 2.2 already pre-loaded

Count me in for the second one... just got our EVOs last week and they came 2.2 stock, was extremely pleased to see a rollback method had been found just a few days later.

OP: To give you an idea of the process I went through just this morning: I rolled back to 2.1, rooted with SimpleRoot, install Superuser + ROM Manager then updated to AC-ROM from the sticky in this forum.

The ROM is mostly stock with some good tweaks... the main attraction for me is perflock is disabled in the kernel, no need to disable it in SetCPU everytime you reboot. Battery life is already remarkably improved... amazing what underclocking to 128MHz when the screen is off does for the battery.

 

[limitproof]

great thread, im in the same proverbial boat as the OP. While it may seem redundant to O.G.'s who have been rooting for years or just EVO-junkies (or both), it's reassuring for those on the fence to get these answers many ways.

The best thing would be a generalized flow chart and something visual to explain the different components that goes into supercharging your EVO! For example, kernals, ROMs, Themes, bootloaders (hboot), Recovery, and what is a busybox?

Anyways, I hope to roll back my 2.2 stock this week and hop on the CM6 bandwagon. I saw a youtube of the Fresh ROM and was impressed. The good thing with rooting is that I can have both and flash when I desire. (WIPE before FLASH! something that has been repeated enough in here to commit to memory)

 

[marko358]

Count me in for the second one... just got our EVOs last week and they came 2.2 stock, was extremely pleased to see a rollback method had been found just a few days later.

OP: To give you an idea of the process I went through just this morning: I rolled back to 2.1, rooted with SimpleRoot, install Superuser + ROM Manager then updated to AC-ROM from the sticky in this forum.

The ROM is mostly stock with some good tweaks... the main attraction for me is perflock is disabled in the kernel, no need to disable it in SetCPU everytime you reboot. Battery life is already remarkably improved... amazing what underclocking to 128MHz when the screen is off does for the battery.

I am finally going to take the plunge and root this weekend. Is that underclocking when the screen is off automatically embedded as a setting in that particular ROM or did you have to set that up yourself? And do most ROMs do something like that to help battery life?

 

[intheb0x]

Roll back to 2.1 and simple root, then choose clockwork recovery.

I just rooted recently and it was easy as pie.

LOVING ACs Rom!

Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk

 

[akirhol]

I am finally going to take the plunge and root this weekend. Is that underclocking when the screen is off automatically embedded as a setting in that particular ROM or did you have to set that up yourself? And do most ROMs do something like that to help battery life?

Thought I already replied to this...

No, AC-ROM undervolts and overclocks the CPU. I'm using SetCPU to underclock there and the rest of the time when it isn't charging it is using ondemand modification of the CPU clock. You can setup several profiles with different priorities to control how the CPU is clocked at any given time.

SetCPU depends on perflock being disabled, which you can do manually each time the phone boots or it can be disabled in the kernel. AC-ROM has the latter, so quite handy for anyone using SetCPU.

 

[josh6780]

one thing I would like explained to me.
Why do we have to roll back and root to 2.1 and then flash 2.2 when we are already flashing anyway? I am missing this part.

If we use the AC-ROM, do we have take those steps as well? (roll back and root) I did not see that in the instructions for the AC-ROM.

EDIT: And since I am asking this ridiculous question; mise well ask another.

Can someone explain in a format for the dumb exactly how I back up using nandroid? I read everything but I seem to be missing the simplest part. Nandroid does not stock with the boot loader correct? Everything I read sounds like you just go to recovery then click on nandroid and simply hit "back up" I know it's not this easy.

 

[KSmithInNY]

one thing I would like explained to me.
Why do we have to roll back and root to 2.1 and then flash 2.2 when we are already flashing anyway? I am missing this part.

The reason you're doing this is because 2.2 is not rootable. This method lets you go back to 2.1, then root, then flash an already rooted 2.2 ROM.

If we use the AC-ROM, do we have take those steps as well? (roll back and root) I did not see that in the instructions for the AC-ROM.

Yes, see above.

EDIT: And since I am asking this ridiculous question; mise well ask another.

Can someone explain in a format for the dumb exactly how I back up using nandroid? I read everything but I seem to be missing the simplest part. Nandroid does not stock with the boot loader correct? Everything I read sounds like you just go to recovery then click on nandroid and simply hit "back up" I know it's not this easy.

It really is as easy as you thought. You just go into recovery select backup/restore, and make a nandroid backup.

See above in bold.

 

[josh6780]

Originally Posted by josh6780 View Post
one thing I would like explained to me.
Why do we have to roll back and root to 2.1 and then flash 2.2 when we are already flashing anyway? I am missing this part.

The reason you're doing this is because 2.2 is not rootable. This method lets you go back to 2.1, then root, then flash an already rooted 2.2 ROM.

Yes, I do understand that 2.2 is not rootable. What I don't understand is even though it is not rootable why we have to roll back when we are flashing the same chip. I guess I am thinking of this has a PC with a hard drive. I can put whatever OS I want on my pc provided I have coded everything correctly. Well, it seems to me there is a ROM out there that is coded correctly (AC-ROM) So what I don't understand is why we have to roll back to 2.1 to flash the same chip that has always been in the phone. I hope I am making sense. I can also ask this question. If I hard reset my phone. Then do a nandroid back up of my 2.2, I can flash back to that at anytime correct? Which means I can do the all the steps and till I get my rooted 2.2. THEN I can nandroid back that up correct? So from what I am getting from all this. It would be like I havea dual boot OS I flash from stock 2.2 to rooted 2.2 and back as I please??????

So if this is possible why do we have to roll back in the first place? that is what I am not getting. Why doesn't someone just release their nandroid back up of the rooted 2.2 (which I basically thought that was what AC-ROM was.

Is each back up specific to each phone? (ESN/MSN and what not?)
(see I must be miss understand something here.)


EDIT: And since I am asking this ridiculous question; mise well ask another.

Can someone explain in a format for the dumb exactly how I back up using nandroid? I read everything but I seem to be missing the simplest part. Nandroid does not stock with the boot loader correct? Everything I read sounds like you just go to recovery then click on nandroid and simply hit "back up" I know it's not this easy.

It really is as easy as you thought. You just go into recovery select backup/restore, and make a nandroid backup.

Ok, Then when I go to recovery how do I then select back up and restore? All I see is the image with the phone and the red triangle over the top of it, like it's waiting for me to hook it up to sdk or something.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Originally Posted by josh6780 View Post
one thing I would like explained to me.
Why do we have to roll back and root to 2.1 and then flash 2.2 when we are already flashing anyway? I am missing this part.

The reason you're doing this is because 2.2 is not rootable. This method lets you go back to 2.1, then root, then flash an already rooted 2.2 ROM.

Yes, I do understand that 2.2 is not rootable. What I don't understand is even though it is not rootable why we have to roll back when we are flashing the same chip. I guess I am thinking of this has a PC with a hard drive. I can put whatever OS I want on my pc provided I have coded everything correctly. Well, it seems to me there is a ROM out there that is coded correctly (AC-ROM) So what I don't understand is why we have to roll back to 2.1 to flash the same chip that has always been in the phone. I hope I am making sense. I can also ask this question. If I hard reset my phone. Then do a nandroid back up of my 2.2, I can flash back to that at anytime correct? Which means I can do the all the steps and till I get my rooted 2.2. THEN I can nandroid back that up correct? So from what I am getting from all this. It would be like I havea dual boot OS I flash from stock 2.2 to rooted 2.2 and back as I please??????

So if this is possible why do we have to roll back in the first place? that is what I am not getting. Why doesn't someone just release their nandroid back up of the rooted 2.2 (which I basically thought that was what AC-ROM was.

Is each back up specific to each phone? (ESN/MSN and what not?)
(see I must be miss understand something here.)

Think of it as a computer with the BIOS locked not letting you change the operating system. Rooting unlocks it so that you can change the operating system.


EDIT: And since I am asking this ridiculous question; mise well ask another.

Can someone explain in a format for the dumb exactly how I back up using nandroid? I read everything but I seem to be missing the simplest part. Nandroid does not stock with the boot loader correct? Everything I read sounds like you just go to recovery then click on nandroid and simply hit "back up" I know it's not this easy.

It really is as easy as you thought. You just go into recovery select backup/restore, and make a nandroid backup.

Ok, Then when I go to recovery how do I then select back up and restore? All I see is the image with the phone and the red triangle over the top of it, like it's waiting for me to hook it up to sdk or something.

This makes me think you don't have a proper root.

See above italics, if I did it right lol. Lot's of people editing over the same post.

 

[KSmithInNY]

Yes, I do understand that 2.2 is not rootable. What I don't understand is even though it is not rootable why we have to roll back when we are flashing the same chip. I guess I am thinking of this has a PC with a hard drive. I can put whatever OS I want on my pc provided I have coded everything correctly.

An android phone is not like a computer in the way that a computer is truly unlocked. You can do/load whatever you'd like on a computer. In order to do this on Android, you need to be a super user access, with NAND unlocked, with a custom recovery image. Hence rolling back to 2.1 to do all this.

Well, it seems to me there is a ROM out there that is coded correctly (AC-ROM) So what I don't understand is why we have to roll back to 2.1 to flash the same chip that has always been in the phone.

In order to load this ROM (or any ROM), you need to be a superuser, with NAND unlocked and have a custom recovery. Since this is not achievable on 2.2, you must first be on 2.1 to do it. Going back to 2.1 is what allows you to do the above.

I hope I am making sense. I can also ask this question. If I hard reset my phone. Then do a nandroid back up of my 2.2, I can flash back to that at anytime correct?

Yes and no. It seems as if your implying that 2.2 (stock) has the ability to make nandroid backups which it doesnt. Hence rolling back to 2.1, to gain superuser access, to unlock NAND, to have a custom recovery image. Without the custom recovery image, you can't backup or restore anything.

Now if you meant to say " After i roll back to 2.1, root, unlock NAND, and load a custom recovery, can i flash a rooted 2.2 ROM and make a nand backup and load that NAND backup at anytime" then the answer would be yes. Same would go for loading a rooted 2.1 ROM and making a NAND backup, you could then load that at anytime. You could run rooted 2.1 for breakfast and be on rooted 2.2 for lunch if you want, although not sure why anyone would go back to 2.1 after experiencing JIT.

Which means I can do the all the steps and till I get my rooted 2.2. THEN I can nandroid back that up correct? So from what I am getting from all this. It would be like I havea dual boot OS I flash from stock 2.2 to rooted 2.2 and back as I please??????

I dont think you realize that you're not rooting 2.2 ..... the whole first part of the process is rolling you back to 2.1 simply so you can root.

So if this is possible why do we have to roll back in the first place? that is what I am not getting.

See above

Why doesn't someone just release their nandroid back up of the rooted 2.2 (which I basically thought that was what AC-ROM was.

Is each back up specific to each phone? (ESN/MSN and what not?)
(see I must be miss understand something here.)

A backup is specific to each phone individually.

Ok, Then when I go to recovery how do I then select back up and restore? All I see is the image with the phone and the red triangle over the top of it, like it's waiting for me to hook it up to sdk or something.

You don't have a custom recovery image loaded.

 

[josh6780]

got it. I did not realize that whenever they release an update it also flashes the current bios into a new code and that they were locked. It also helps to realize that each phone is specific. Also that you can only back up your rom after you have rooted your phone.

So what I need to do is Roll back to 2.1, then root, then back up with nandroid. (which the options should now show up in recovery mode since the phone has been rooted?) Then I can do what I like and go back to the 2.1 rooted rom at any time if I screw something up.

Now my next question is. When they do successfully Root 2.2, am I going to have to roll back to stock 2.2 (unrooted) or will it just be flashable at anypoint like you can do now with unrevoked.