Nexus 5: Problems & Issues

[DroidArmy]

Name one device that doesn't have dozens and dozens of problem threads on dozens of sites. Name one device that is perfect for every person. Name one company with a perfect production system. With that in mind, LG has won first place (tied with Apple) in reliability in the mobile space. My parents excellent TV is LG, their fridge is LG and my phone is LG. Guess what? Each works flawlessly and is top of their own respective class.

Please take a stats class at your local college. One, or even two or three (heck I'll give you thirty people you've talked to), people's experiences do not make a large enough sample for a company as large as LG to justify the hate and false generalizations you spew out every post.

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I love how you call it false generalizations. I really do. It just goes to show how stubborn you are. Comparing LG to Apple? Are you out of your mind?! LG WILL NEVER COMPARE TO APPLE. Let's just get that cleared up. The only company which will come close to the quality of an Apple product is HTC. Samsung is getting better but their phones still have some quality control issues. In terms of sales, I would say Samsung is the closest to Apple. You need to take a little trip to the loony hospital if you even consider LG being as good as Apple. We're talking about phones, not refrigerators. It's pretty hard to screw up a refrigerator.

Oh, and that one device.....is the 5s. Lowest problem thread so far I've seen. The HTC one m8 has a pretty low one as well. You're describing Apple in the beginning lol


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[mrsmumbles]

I love how you call it false generalizations. I really do. It just goes to show how stubborn you are. Comparing LG to Apple? Are you out of your mind?! LG WILL NEVER COMPARE TO APPLE. Let's just get that cleared up. The only company which will come close to the quality of an Apple product is HTC. Samsung is getting better but their phones still have some quality control issues. In terms of sales, I would say Samsung is the closest to Apple. You need to take a little trip to the loony hospital if you even consider LG being as good as Apple. We're talking about phones, not refrigerators. It's pretty hard to screw up a refrigerator.

Oh, and that one device.....is the 5s. Lowest problem thread so far I've seen. The HTC one m8 has a pretty low one as well. You're describing Apple in the beginning lol


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In iMore, just in the past week, and only for the 5s, people are having problems with audio not working right, problems with screen sensitivity, and recurring lag. I'm very happy I have my fast-as-lightning, problem free, light and beautiful Nexus 5, and not anything as problematic as an iPhone 5s.

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[DroidArmy]

In iMore, just in the past week, and only for the 5s, people are having problems with audio not working right, problems with screen sensitivity, and recurring lag. I'm very happy I have my fast-as-lightning, problem free, light and beautiful Nexus 5, and not anything as problematic as an iPhone 5s.

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No problems here....just an amazing phone. I also couldn't find the thread you were talking about. Care to provide a link? The only thing which I've seen show up is issues with jailbreaking the 5s. Seeing the phone isn't meant to be jailbroken, it isn't an actual issue. How can you lag out an A7 64-bit chip? You also don't have an account at imore....


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[mrsmumbles]

No problems here....just an amazing phone. I also couldn't find the thread you were talking about. Care to provide a link? The only thing which I've seen show up is issues with jailbreaking the 5s. Seeing the phone isn't meant to be jailbroken, it isn't an actual issue. How can you lag out an A7 64-bit chip? You also don't have an account at imore....


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No account is needed to read the posts. All those threads exist. If you didn't see them, you may wish to look again.

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[gidgiddonihah]

I love how you call it false generalizations. I really do. It just goes to show how stubborn you are. Comparing LG to Apple? Are you out of your mind?! LG WILL NEVER COMPARE TO APPLE. Let's just get that cleared up. The only company which will come close to the quality of an Apple product is HTC. Samsung is getting better but their phones still have some quality control issues. In terms of sales, I would say Samsung is the closest to Apple. You need to take a little trip to the loony hospital if you even consider LG being as good as Apple. We're talking about phones, not refrigerators. It's pretty hard to screw up a refrigerator.

Oh, and that one device.....is the 5s. Lowest problem thread so far I've seen. The HTC one m8 has a pretty low one as well. You're describing Apple in the beginning lol


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I love how you fail to address 90% of my post and go on an unsubstantiated rant about a company you apparently have extreme feelings for. I also love how you just throw your own opinion about who has the best reliability and try to invalidate me with nothing to back it up. Have you done a study with a worldwide, unbiased, large sample? If so good! I seriously doubt that though. If you so want I'll link multiple studies of how LG has made it high on reliability studies.

Also your post about 64 bit - 64-bit means nothing for speed. Absolutely nothing. It gives a tiny boost for certain things and addresses a few minor security concerns. Other than that, 64-bit is mostly useless. Now, I do agree the A7 chip is crazy fast but if it, the mainboard, the RAM, or any other hardware piece had faults the entire system could lag. Or if the OS had been flashed incorrectly you could have performance issues.

I think I'm done. I can't fight against someone who senselessly hates a company and makes wild assumptions, guesses, and evaluations based on, well...nothing. It's similar to the fanboys that populate comment sections on Apple, Android, Samsung and Windows articles from various websites.

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[DroidArmy]

No account is needed to read the posts. All those threads exist. If you didn't see them, you may wish to look again.

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Provide a link to one of those threads and I'd be more inclined to believe you.


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[DroidArmy]

I love how you fail to address 90% of my post and go on an unsubstantiated rant about a company you apparently have extreme feelings for. I also love how you just throw your own opinion about who has the best reliability and try to invalidate me with nothing to back it up. Have you done a study with a worldwide, unbiased, large sample? If so good! I seriously doubt that though. If you so want I'll link multiple studies of how LG has made it high on reliability studies.

Also your post about 64 bit - 64-bit means nothing for speed. Absolutely nothing. It gives a tiny boost for certain things and addresses a few minor security concerns. Other than that, 64-bit is mostly useless. Now, I do agree the A7 chip is crazy fast but if it, the mainboard, the RAM, or any other hardware piece had faults the entire system could lag. Or if the OS had been flashed incorrectly you could have performance issues.

I think I'm done. I can't fight against someone who senselessly hates a company and makes wild assumptions, guesses, and evaluations based on, well...nothing. It's similar to the fanboys that populate comment sections on Apple, Android, Samsung and Windows articles from various websites.

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Or the fact that you've given nothing to back up your own posts besides your experiences. I've provided other opinions and information.

How am I going to do a worldwide study? I'm not LG so I obviously can't do that. I can however make conclusions based on other public information.

Hmm....you obviously don't know a lot about 64-bit. It's the standard on every computer now for a reason. It allows double the information to be sent and received at once. Basically, it's like having 64 workers instead of 32. It makes a huge difference for gaming among other things. If Qualcomm scrambled to get a 64-bit chip going after Apple's announcement, isn't it important? Maxing the clock speed to stupid levels to process things isn't the answer. It creates overheating issues and it's been shown to be the worst way to increase performance. Improve the technology, don't boost it.


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[gidgiddonihah]

Provide a link to one of those threads and I'd be more inclined to believe you.


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Well that stinks. The study was on HDTV reliability. Here is where it comes in second behind Apple.

HDTV Reliability and Satisfaction: LG is the Brand to Beat | TechHive

Or the fact that you've given nothing to back up your own posts besides your experiences. I've provided other opinions and information.

How am I going to do a worldwide study? I'm not LG so I obviously can't do that. I can however make conclusions based on other public information.

Hmm....you obviously don't know a lot about 64-bit. It's the standard on every computer now for a reason. It allows double the information to be sent and received at once. Basically, it's like having 64 workers instead of 32. It makes a huge difference for gaming among other things. If Qualcomm scrambled to get a 64-bit chip going after Apple's announcement, isn't it important? Maxing the clock speed to stupid levels to process things isn't the answer. It creates overheating issues and it's been shown to be the worst way to increase performance. Improve the technology, don't boost it.


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Yes, the CPU can handle much more data at more addresses, but it's a small real world performance difference with many complications. In fact, as AnandTech points out

The move to a 64-bit platform however does complicate things a bit. Moving to a larger memory address space increases the size of pointers, which in turn can increase the footprint of 64-bit applications compared to their 32-bit counterparts. So although there’s clearly a performance uplift from app developers recompiling in 64-bit mode (more registers, access to new instructions), there’s also an associated memory footprint penalty. Since the iPad Air and iPhone 5s don’t feature a corresponding increase in memory capacity, I wondered if this might be a problem going forward.

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He comes to a conclusion

In general you’re looking at a 20 - 30% increase in memory footprint when dealing with an all 64-bit environment. At worst, the device’s total memory usage never exceeded 60% of what ships with the platform but these are admittedly fairly light use cases. With more apps open, including some doing work in the background, I do see relatively aggressive eviction of apps from memory. The most visible case is when Safari tabs have to be reloaded upon switching to them. Applications being evicted from memory don’t tend to be a huge problem since the A7 can reload them quickly.

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He then illustrates how problematic this can be

Although things seem to have improved with iOS 7.0.3, the 64-bit builds of the OS still seem to run into stability issues more frequently than their 32-bit counterparts. I still see low memory errors associated with any crashes. It could just be that the move to 64-bit applications (and associated memory pressure) is putting more stress on iOS’ memory management routines, which in turn exposes some weaknesses. The iPad Air crashed a couple of times on me (3 times total during the past week), but no where near as much as earlier devices running iOS 7.0.1.

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So you squeeze just a little more performance but you use more RAM. You can counter this by adding a second 1GB module in dual channel but you have an extra power drain. 64-bit is a cool feature but it's not ready for prime time.

iPhone 5S problem links:
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/2...o-longer-works-unless-im-using-earphones.html
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/285659-screen-sensitivity-issue-pls-help.html
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/285602-cant-normal.html
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/283515-recurring-lag-my-iphone-5s-running-ios-7-1-a.html
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/284647-weird-text-message.html

FYI, I didn't even bother moving to the next page or trying a different forum site. My only point is that every company and every device has problems. Smartphones are too complicated to address every possible event.

 

[DroidArmy]

Well that stinks. The study was on HDTV reliability. Here is where it comes in second behind Apple.

HDTV Reliability and Satisfaction: LG is the Brand to Beat | TechHive



Yes, the CPU can handle much more data at more addresses, but it's a small real world performance difference with many complications. In fact, as AnandTech points out .
He comes to a conclusion.
He then illustrates how problematic this can be .
So you squeeze just a little more performance but you use more RAM. You can counter this by adding a second 1GB module in dual channel but you have an extra power drain. 64-bit is a cool feature but it's not ready for prime time.

iPhone 5S problem links:
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/2...o-longer-works-unless-im-using-earphones.html
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/285659-screen-sensitivity-issue-pls-help.html
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/285602-cant-normal.html
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/283515-recurring-lag-my-iphone-5s-running-ios-7-1-a.html
http://forums.imore.com/iphone-5s/284647-weird-text-message.html

FYI, I didn't even bother moving to the next page or trying a different forum site. My only point is that every company and every device has problems. Smartphones are too complicated to address every possible event.

There we go. Somebody finally provided information against my claims. And guess what? I accept it. I'm going to read through this now and see how bad it really is. Honestly, I still don't agree with the 64 bit conclusion because I've seen the benefits already. Anyway, that doesn't really matter


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[Kevin OQuinn]

There we go. Somebody finally provided information against my claims. And guess what? I accept it. I'm going to read through this now and see how bad it really is. Honestly, I still don't agree with the 64 bit conclusion because I've seen the benefits already. Anyway, that doesn't really matter


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I just feel the need to ask. What apps are you using that are 64-bit optimized and fully take advantage of the A7?

 

[DroidArmy]

I just feel the need to ask. What apps are you using that are 64-bit optimized and fully take advantage of the A7?

Infinity blade 3 is one of my favorite games that takes full advantage. It does make a difference if only slightly. Redmond pie sums it up well http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-5s...it-running-infinity-blade-3-comparison-video/


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[Kevin OQuinn]

Infinity blade 3 is one of my favorite games that takes full advantage. It does make a difference if only slightly. Redmond pie sums it up well iPhone 5S 64-bit vs iPhone 5 32-bit Running Infinity Blade 3 Comparison [VIDEO] | Redmond Pie


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So is that the only app? I've used an iPad Mini Retina for an extended period of time and didn't really find many apps that were properly optimized to take full advantage of the A7. The device is fast, and I attribute that to the speed of the A7 itself, not just the 64-bit OS. For example, Tapatalk, Facebook, and Netflix are not fully optimized but are perfectly fast.

 

[DroidArmy]

So is that the only app? I've used an iPad Mini Retina for an extended period of time and didn't really find many apps that were properly optimized to take full advantage of the A7. The device is fast, and I attribute that to the speed of the A7 itself, not just the 64-bit OS. For example, Tapatalk, Facebook, and Netflix are not fully optimized but are perfectly fast.

No it's not the only one. I have a few apps that I've gotten that support it. Not many do at the moment but that will change


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[JohnnyBroccoli]

I can see not liking the metal of the HTC one. However, you can't argue that it's not well done. The time and precision that went into making it is simply amazing. Any issues with the HTC one for software can be fixed with software tweaks or custom roms. That's the beauty of android. The nexus on the other hand isn't as nice on the hardware side. Let me explain this from my point of view as somebody working in the technology industry:

1. The amount of issues with the nexus 5 on launch day is quite sad. I would expect better precision from Google to make sure everything goes smoothly. Dust under the screen, light bleed, yellow tint, improperly calibrated speakers, wifi drops and signal issues, and let's not forget the camera issue. That's a list which should've been greatly reduced by quality control and beta testing

2. The actual quality of the hardware is kind of bad on the nexus 5. I've heard stories about rattling, gaps, broken buttons, and severe overheating. There's always going to be problems but that's unacceptable.

3. The refurbished units are trash most of the time. Let's say your nexus 5 has an issue which needs to be fixed. Fine, it happens. You send it in and receive a new one a week later. You open it expecting to find a perfect nexus 5. It looks good, but wait until you turn it on. What's that under the screen? Dust, light bleed, or even dead pixels. The refurbish center doesn't care about the product. They pull it apart, slap a fixed piece in, and lazily throw it back together. That's never okay and it just goes to show how Google and LG feel about the customers. Yeah, that's right, they couldn't care less once they have your money.


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If you bought your Nexus 5 from the Play Store, you won't receive a refurbished unit in the RMA process.

 

[JohnnyBroccoli]

It's cute how defensive people get about a a device they purchased from a corporation. Almost feels like people are talking about their children at times.

 

[mrsmumbles]

There we go. Somebody finally provided information against my claims. And guess what? I accept it. I'm going to read through this now and see how bad it really is. Honestly, I still don't agree with the 64 bit conclusion because I've seen the benefits already. Anyway, that doesn't really matter


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What was the difficulty in finding those threads yourself? All I had to do was tap iMore in Tapatalk, tap for the 5s forum and there they are.

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[DroidArmy]

What was the difficulty in finding those threads yourself? All I had to do was tap iMore in Tapatalk, tap for the 5s forum and there they are.

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Because I searched for the threads instead of going directly to the 5s section. My bad


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[mrsmumbles]

It's cute how defensive people get about a a device they purchased from a corporation. Almost feels like people are talking about their children at times.

I know... I just love my phone. I can take it anywhere and it just becomes a sort of indispensable companion. I haven't named it though!

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[JohnnyBroccoli]

Ha.

 

[anon(631531)]

HaHa. I started to read this thread, and i thought that i was on CrackBerry.