No Google Wallet=Travesty

[JoeUserTX]

Travesty? Really? Travesty? I can think of a lot of things in life that could be considered a travesty... Firefly getting canceled... Adam Sandler being allowed to keep making movies...

This! lol, totally agree!

 

[nick1020]

for me google wallet is a necessity. if i root to put google wallet on, will i receive updates still? I wouldnt flash roms or anything just a simple root nothing else.

 

[tk-093]

for me google wallet is a necessity. if i root to put google wallet on, will i receive updates still? I wouldnt flash roms or anything just a simple root nothing else.

Why is it a necessity? I really want to know as I have not looked into it that much. From the little that I know, it can't replace my credit card/debt card until I can use it 100% of locations. Until that point won't I STILL need to carry credit cards/debit cards around for those cases?

What do you do at a restaurant? Normally you put your credit card in the little wallet thingy and they take it and ring it up? Would I put my phone in there? I assume all those places would need to get these little portable devices to bring to the table for that stuff? Who's going to bother spending money on that?

I think it would be a pretty cool thing to play with.. but necessity? I just can't see the arguement there.

 

[greydarrah]

Big whup. I don't want to use Google Wallet anyway, but I do want this phone.

 

[edoublediz]

From the little that I know, it can't replace my credit card/debt card until I can use it 100% of locations.

your logic is not logical!! why does it have to be available at 100% of retailers before you use it? so you are not using LTE until 100% coverage? no HDTV for you until all channels are HD? i will use it where i can, then i will use it more as more retailers offer it.

 

[greydarrah]

your logic is not logical!! why does it have to be available at 100% of retailers before you use it? so you are not using LTE until 100% coverage? no HDTV for you until all channels are HD? i will use it where i can, then i will use it more as more retailers offer it.

This makes perfect sense, but it's still not a travesty. The only real travesty is that we still can't buy the phone.

 

[mclarryjr]

for me google wallet is a necessity. if i root to put google wallet on, will i receive updates still? I wouldnt flash roms or anything just a simple root nothing else.

To get updates after rooting you will need to flash updated roms which is the best part of having root access. If you do some searching on rooting you will find a ton of benefits and extra's you get, trust me it's worth it.

 

[tk-093]

your logic is not logical!! why does it have to be available at 100% of retailers before you use it? so you are not using LTE until 100% coverage? no HDTV for you until all channels are HD? i will use it where i can, then i will use it more as more retailers offer it.

*shrug* seems logical to me and your examples do not apply. I have a single device that can do LTE/CDMA.. one TV that can do HD/SD. I see no advantage to GW until it can actually replace something. Most folks will still need their plastic for 80-90% of their transactions. So until it gets to a tipping point it is something that is a nice-to-have, not a necessity and I could care less about that feature and I imagine the majority of users don't care either. We just want the phone.

 

[edoublediz]

*shrug* seems logical to me and your examples do not apply. I have a single device that can do LTE/CDMA.. one TV that can do HD/SD. I see no advantage to GW until it can actually replace something. Most folks will still need their plastic for 80-90% of their transactions. So until it gets to a tipping point it is something that is a nice-to-have, not a necessity and I could care less about that feature and I imagine the majority of users don't care either. We just want the phone.

again..logic. one device that does LTE/CDMA, one TV for HD/SD. one phone that comes with NFC!!! its exactly the same!!!

you bought a tv before HD was 100% you bought a lte phone before lte was 100%. but, you wont buy into GW unless it was 100%. im not trying to be a prick just calling you out on flawed logic.

 

[SCampbell27]

Never even heard of Google wallet until this forum, and still don't know what it does/is...So, no, no travesty over here.

 

[6tr6tr]

Root = Google Wallet - it's as easy as that

nope. For some odd, stupid, idiotic reason, the NFC chip is ON THE BATTERY. This is NOT the case for the Nexus S, but apparently, the Galaxy Nexus has the NFC chip on the battery. As well, the battery will not pass the NFC state on to the phone unless a token is registered between it and the device. I'll bet this is from Verizon to fight rooting. It's probably encrypted and has a proprietary protocol that's going to be a pain to reverse-engineer.

 

[greydarrah]

I can just about guarantee that Verizon is going to find a way to charge people for using this...probably on a per transaction basis.

 

[Hosehead]

nope. For some odd, stupid, idiotic reason, the NFC chip is ON THE BATTERY. This is NOT the case for the Nexus S, but apparently, the Galaxy Nexus has the NFC chip on the battery. As well, the battery will not pass the NFC state on to the phone unless a token is registered between it and the device. I'll bet this is from Verizon to fight rooting. It's probably encrypted and has a proprietary protocol that's going to be a pain to reverse-engineer.

People have already installed Google Wallet on the Nexus after rooting. The process is well documented and can be found via a search. It won't need to be reverse engineered. It is already working.

 

[SpaceHippie]

NFC was never a factor for me. Until the technology spreads i can't see myself going through the trouble. It take just as long for me to pull out my card and swipe then it does to pull out my phone and swipe.

 

[CynicX]

nope. For some odd, stupid, idiotic reason, the NFC chip is ON THE BATTERY. This is NOT the case for the Nexus S, but apparently, the Galaxy Nexus has the NFC chip on the battery. As well, the battery will not pass the NFC state on to the phone unless a token is registered between it and the device. I'll bet this is from Verizon to fight rooting. It's probably encrypted and has a proprietary protocol that's going to be a pain to reverse-engineer.

Nfc antenna is on the battery tied into the phone with contacts similar to the contacts the battery uses for power. The nfc itself is in the phone.

Putting the antenna on the battery moves it too the back for enhanced reception.

 

[DessVZW]

I just want Google Wallet because my local gas station (Sheetz) just down the road from me takes Xpress Pay or whatever... the NFC thing you need to interface w/Google Wallet.

 

[6tr6tr]

People have already installed Google Wallet on the Nexus after rooting. The process is well documented and can be found via a search. It won't need to be reverse engineered. It is already working.

You did NOT read my post. The Nexus S does not have the NFC chip on the battery AND does NOT require that token handshake that the Galaxy Nexus battery does (this is because the NFC is powered by the phone on Nexus S, whereas the Galaxy Nexus could have a malware battery installed with an NFC chip to steal your info - hence the extra authentication step)..

 

[tk-093]

again..logic. one device that does LTE/CDMA, one TV for HD/SD. one phone that comes with NFC!!! its exactly the same!!!

you bought a tv before HD was 100% you bought a lte phone before lte was 100%. but, you wont buy into GW unless it was 100%. im not trying to be a prick just calling you out on flawed logic.

No worries, you're not being a prick, and I'm not trying to be either.

But I still disagree. When I bought my Blunderbolt, even though I did not have LTE, I could still throw away my CDMA phone because the Blunderbolt worked 100% of the time.. LTE or CDMA .. When I bought my HDTV, I did not have all HD channels, but I could still throw away my old tube TV because the HDTV worked for 100% of the channels HD or not.

The difference here is that with Google Wallet, I can't throw away my old payment methods.. I still need to drag around my checkbook/credit card/debit card/cash 100% of the time because so few places use GW. It would be like carrying two phones.. one that does LTE and one for when you are in a CDMA area...

That's why I'm saying it's a nice-to-have.. not a necessity (for now anyway) as you are not eliminating anything... For now it's just a toy... my opinion anyway.

 

[Brooke]

If gwallet was better then vzw att tmo would use it. Its not Isis is better and that's why carriers have decided to back it.?

"Better" hardly enters the picture at this point. Did VHS beat Betamax because it was better? ...

The carriers want ISIS because it's *theirs* and that means a great revenue stream.

 

[theduder]

I have a question about rooting the GN. I understand updates will come directly from Google, rather than big red. So, one can assume that updates will come much more frequently than what we (big red users) are accustomed to. Will OTA updates break root? If so, is anyone concerned about the constant chore of re-rooting with more frequent OTA updates?

-me

Regarding frequency, my Sprint Nexus S 4G has only had 2 updates since it was released in May.

It came with 2.3.4, then came 2.3.5, now we have 2.3.7.

Not too bad if you're worried about too many updates creating work for you unrooting, etc...


Oh... I have Wallet on my phone. Switching to VzW for obvious reasons and for the GN. Don't want to give up Wallet. It's growing and worth having.