Not a "real Nexus?" WTF?

[davey11]

So the OS is Google's. What does the OS have to do with whose phone it is? The Google phones usually have Google on the phone. Not exactly the same as a splash screen that is visible for all of 30 seconds.

Actually maybe that is why mine reboots so much. Maybe it's Google's way of reminding me that they had something to do with my phone. Lol

Wow you're pretty enchrenched in your stance. Whatever motivation for said stance is admirable. So now you resort to ridiculing google, nice.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

So the OS is Google's. What does the OS have to do with whose phone it is? The Google phones usually have Google on the phone. Not exactly the same as a splash screen that is visible for all of 30 seconds.

Actually maybe that is why mine reboots so much. Maybe it's Google's way of reminding me that they had something to do with my phone. Lol

I'll translate the above. It doesn't matter what anyone says even the manufacturers, and Google. You choose to classify this phone as something other than what it is. So to hell with reality and fact, you'd prefer to remain in your own little world on this.

 

[McSlappy]

From Google's own site. They list LTE specs right on their Nexus Tech Specs site.

Galaxy Nexus

Seems like Google to me. Some of you may be confused by incorrect information circulated by various news sources that were trying to break a story without really knowing what they were talking about some of the links below may prove to be useful.

Verizon Galaxy Nexus removed from Google's developer support pages (update) | The Verge

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/03/google-issues-statement-regarding-cdma-nexus-devices/

End result, Google calls it a Nexus, Samsung calls it a Nexus, and Jerry calls it a Nexus, we have a verdict.

McSlappy

 

[Saiga]

So no one thinks it's weird that the GSM Nexus is sold by Google and actually says Google on the phone, yet the CDMA versions aren't sold by Google and have carrier branding instead of Google's?

That isn't odd to anyone besides me? Lol erm ok.

 

[Jerry Hildenbrand]

Ok so you agree it isn't a development phone? Read. What I put. The CDMA is:

1. Not a development phone (Google has flat out said it isn't)
2. Not a Google phone, not sold by them and it has carrier branding - unlike the GSM Nexus
3. True Nexus! By name only

LOL I remember people saying Ios fans would buy a brick with an Apple logo on it and love it. You all buy an everyday Android phone with Nexus on it and your in love. None of those differences are opinions. They are undeniable facts. The CDMA Nexus isn't the same as a GSM Nexus. Yet some how people keep calling it a true Nexus.

It cracks me up, I used to lie to myself so I would feel better about buying this phone also.

Except that development phone != Building custom ROMs. Google does not cater to, nor do they care about kids writing ROMs. They cater to people like Rovio who make over $1 million monthly on Android. It's a business, not a hobby.

It's a phone to develop applications for the current platform version, with none of the extra or edited framework and APIs that come with every other phone from every other manufacturer. That's always been the case with ADPs, including this one.

This is one of those pesky undeniable facts you seem so fond of.

 

[Saiga]

Except that development phone != Building custom ROMs. Google does not cater to, nor do they care about kids writing ROMs. They cater to people like Rovio who make over $1 million monthly on Android. It's a business, not a hobby.

It's a phone to develop applications for the current platform version, with none of the extra or edited framework and APIs that come with every other phone from every other manufacturer. That's always been the case with ADPs, including this one.

This is one of those pesky undeniable facts you seem so fond of.

What does any of that have to do with the FACT that Google has removed it from the list of development devices they support. Lol so now you have the power to tell Google what's a development device and what isn't? Have they been made aware of their mistake and re added the CDMA Nexus now that you have determined it is in fact a developer device?

Wait, nope. Just checked. It still isn't there. You should tell them to get on that.

 

[oxymoron]

Arguing on the internet must give you a bigger . Some of you are real dicks.

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[Saiga]

Like I said earlier I quit lying to myself about this device and accepted the reality that I fell for a bait and switch. Others haven't. Oh well. I'm done checking this thread.

 

[2defmouze]

What does any of that have to do with the FACT that Google has removed it from the list of development devices they support. Lol so now you have the power to tell Google what's a development device and what isn't? Have they been made aware of their mistake and re added the CDMA Nexus now that you have determined it is in fact a developer device?

Wait, nope. Just checked. It still isn't there. You should tell them to get on that.

The reclassification of the phone under AOSP was already explained to you here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus/170754-not-real-nexus-wtf-11.html#post1778009

And Jerry just explained very clearly what is implied by the term development device.

Cue your next ignorant and oblivious troll rant please...

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[Jerry Hildenbrand]

What does any of that have to do with the FACT that Google has removed it from the list of development devices they support. Lol so now you have the power to tell Google what's a development device and what isn't? Have they been made aware of their mistake and re added the CDMA Nexus now that you have determined it is in fact a developer device?

Wait, nope. Just checked. It still isn't there. You should tell them to get on that.

Link where Google says this is not a development device please. I'll need to read it before I can comment. 'Cause I see this:

Lots of people have been asking questions (and most have managed to
keep those questions polite, which is very much appreciated), so I
won't be able to reply individually to every single message.

I will post a longer explanation as soon as I get a chance, but until
I do I want to emphasize one thing: the only affected aspect is the
support for AOSP builds, i.e. building Android from source code and
installing it on those devices. Other aspects are unaffected.

source
and have had several personal communications on the matter when the story first surfaced (and was reported completely wrong -- per Google)

You're arguing that since it's not an AOSP device, it's not designed for development. Those are two different things.

 

[oxymoron]

Jerry should be sainted for remaining calm when replying to intentionally antagonistic posts/users.

Saint Hildenbrand.

*salute*

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[pauldroidr2d2]

So no one thinks it's weird that the GSM Nexus is sold by Google and actually says Google on the phone, yet the CDMA versions aren't sold by Google and have carrier branding instead of Google's?

That isn't odd to anyone besides me? Lol erm ok.

Let's be very clear here. The only place the GSM version of the phone shows Google on the phone, other than the flash screen is on the battery cover. That's it! No, I do not think that is odd. There isn't any other branding on the phone.

The more I think about it, the more I realize what a non-issue this whole thing is. What all of this amounts to, is a few hobbyists who think they are some how entitled to some mysterious update that doesn't exist for this phone at this time and because VZW and Google aren't giving into their demands, all of this phone no longer qualifies in their opinion as a Nexus.

 

[pauldroidr2d2]

What does any of that have to do with the FACT that Google has removed it from the list of development devices they support. Lol so now you have the power to tell Google what's a development device and what isn't? Have they been made aware of their mistake and re added the CDMA Nexus now that you have determined it is in fact a developer device?

Wait, nope. Just checked. It still isn't there. You should tell them to get on that.

It really doesn't matter what anyone says. Clearly you have no intention in accepting or believing simple facts regarding this phone.

 

[Droid800]

Seriously did they have to make 2 versions of the battery door just to make sure we couldn't switch it to the "Google" branded one.

They did, actually. The CDMA and GSM versions have completely different internal designs. They are, for all intents and purposes, two different handsets.


And frankly, your opinion or anyone else's here does not matter. Google says its a nexus. You arguing otherwise is a waste of energy.

 

[Droid800]

I'll translate the above. It doesn't matter what anyone says even the manufacturers, and Google. You choose to classify this phone as something other than what it is. So to hell with reality and fact, you'd prefer to remain in your own little world on this.

I'm not sure he even has one.

 

[jroc]

I will also add...

What Google calls a Nexus for retail purposes and and whats listed for development....combine that and the CDMA Nexus is still and always gonna be a Nexus. App developers is never listed, but a Nexus is a development phone if you want a device for that purpose.

We kinda got away from what they advertize to the general public. Cant forget that.

Like Ry mentioned a few pages back.....does this mean the Nexus One is no longer a Nexus? Or that the ADP 1 and 2 are no longer development phones?

Building for devices | Android Open Source

So no one thinks it's weird that the GSM Nexus is sold by Google and actually says Google on the phone, yet the CDMA versions aren't sold by Google and have carrier branding instead of Google's?

That isn't odd to anyone besides me? Lol erm ok.

CDMA issues, licenses is the reason....I think this has been explained already..... even by a couple of Google folks, folks that work at Google, on Android. Jean-Baptiste Queru and Dan Morrill explained this aready.

Yea...this is gonna be one of those agree to disagree moments...lol.

 

[Ry]

Yea...this is gonna be one of those agree to disagree moments...lol.

This is one of those "one group is totally right, while the other group is totally wrong" -moments.

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[jroc]

Just realized something...the XOOM is ....never...listed.....as ....or ...advertized as....a Nexus....tablet.

Yet its there listed as a supported device in AOSP.

The ADP One and Two....never listed as Nexus devices. But are listed as development phones.

S E M A N T I C S.......

 

[Ry]

I'm sure the group that's totally right is the group of posters that don't use a Nexus, but come in here to stir the pot. There's only two groups here. Outside trolls, and Nexus users who want to argue about whose expectations were/are more realistic. People are trying to bring facts into it, but all of these arguments are about expectations.

Cool. Let's all call people trolls because opinions differ.

You don't have to own a Nexus to know what a Nexus phone is.

"People are trying to bring in facts." lol.

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[Ry]

If you have no real reason to be in an internet forum, but go there simply to argue your different opinion over opinions of the rightful inhabitants of the group, what are you generally called?

And Ry? Don't use quotations marks unless you get the quote correct.

lol.

Everyone that doesn't have a Nexus - stop posting here. Apparently we're not allowed to have opinions and post facts.

I know that the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon is real Nexus device.

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