Not again... Note 9 Fire Alleged in Lawsuit

[mustang7757]

Small claims in NY is 5000 last I heard.

I thought it was not small claims court? QUEENS SUPREME COURT

 

[Mike Dee]

I thought it was not small claims court? QUEENS SUPREME COURT

I didn't say it was small claims court. I was responding to the post asking how much small claims allows in N.Y.

 

[mustang7757]

I didn't say it was small claims court. I was responding to the post asking how much small claims allows in N.Y.

Oh my bad ..

 

[Blues Fan]

I didn't say it was small claims court. I was responding to the post asking how much small claims allows in N.Y.

Probably she's suing for over that amount then. Again just plain obscene.

 

[CKwik240]

I wonder how much she's suing for as well. What is the law in New York regarding what the amount has to be to get to a trial or small claims court? Just gives an idea how much she's asking for then. If she wasn't seriously injured and only her phone was destroyed and stuff in her purse like wallet and makeup were destroyed, suing for like 50k would be simply obscene and another example of lawsuit abuse. I can see a couple grand for her damages, phone is replaced under warranty and for her destroyed purse but that's it.

The article does mention she claims her hands were burned.

 

[JZ VR]

Probably she's suing for over that amount then. Again just plain obscene.

Her hands were burnt and not obscene for the emotional trauma.

 

[Gary02468]

I've used Samsung products for years and am very happy with them. But if my phone ever caught fire or exploded, I would consider it my civic duty to sue them for enough money to make a difference to them. The ability to hold corporations liable for damages they inflict is a vital part of how we keep products safe.

If the current incident is false (very unlikely) or isolated (hopefully), then it probably won't have much impact on us. At this point in the Note7's history, there had already been dozens of reported fires, so there's no reason to panic about the Note9. But if we see a new fire every few weeks, that would be a major problem.

 

[Morty2264]

The G3 was a super heater. No matter the rom or what I ran on it it just got HOT. Both of them did that. I would put it in the freezer and it would fly when it chilled out. My note 8 barely gets warm when doing a marathon game. I loved the ergonomics of that phone, g3 electric blue, probably the most comfortable I ever used and it never caught on fire. felt like it though.

I'm glad it wasn't just my device! I loved the look, feel and functionality of it but it did heat up rather quickly.

 

[dstrauss]

Sorry to be such a skeptic, and not diminishing the fact she may have been injured, but just one incident; nothing similar to date; suit filed instantaneously with demand to stop production - does that not sound like somebody had it teed up and was just waiting for a chance to hit for the hole in one?

 

[Gary02468]

does that not sound like somebody had it teed up and was just waiting for a chance to hit for the hole in one?

No, obviously not. How many days did it take to file the papers, and how many days do you think it takes for a good lawyer to do that (and what's your evidence for thinking so)?

 

[CKwik240]

Sorry to be such a skeptic, and not diminishing the fact she may have been injured, but just one incident; nothing similar to date; suit filed instantaneously with demand to stop production - does that not sound like somebody had it teed up and was just waiting for a chance to hit for the hole in one?

Or it sounds like an attorney using the very well known issue with the Note 7 to leverage a better outcome for his client. I'd expect my attorney to present the best case possible...

 

[jeetu4444]

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https://youtu.be/ek0pKb02hjU

 

[datum9]

Hardly. Three weeks after the Note7 went on sale, there had been dozens of reported fires. Three weeks after the Note9 went on sale, there is a single, still-unconfirmed report.

Sometimes when there is smoke, there is a fire.

 

[datum9]

It's just incredible they haven't learned anything from the previous battery fires.

A removable battery is such a simple fix, now if they do a recall it will be expensive and inconvenient. And both of these will be passed onto the consumer.

 

[Carrie Greicar]

Seriously? If her phone got hot in an elevator, she shouldn't have put it in her purse? What else should she have done with it? Was she supposed to anticipate that it was about to catch fire?

Phones are designed to be kept in bags, pockets, etc. Or on car dashboards in direct sunlight for hours, etc.

It's one thing to say (correctly) that we don't yet know for sure what happened. It's another to make up preposterous, victim-blaming criticisms just because you like the product and hope it's not defective.

Unless someone drives a nail through the phone, runs over it with a car, or inflicts similar abuse, it's Samsung's fault if it catches fire.

To be fair, if my phone was hot, I would remove the case if I had one one it, then fan the phone for a bit before placing it in my bag...

 

[Gary02468]

To be fair, if my phone was hot, I would remove the case if I had one one it, then fan the phone for a bit before placing it in my bag[.]

I wouldn't--especially if the phone is too hot to hold comfortably, and I'm riding in an elevator, and have no place to put the phone while fanning, and nothing to fan it with anyway.

Samsung provides safety and care instructions for the phone, and nowhere do they suggest ever fanning it or removing a case or refraining from putting it in a bag, under any circumstances.

When my phone gets hot (hasn't happened yet with the Note9), I rely on its circuitry to slow it down or shut it off long before the heat becomes dangerous. That's the expected behavior of users and of the phone itself.

 

[mhettrich]

I find it amazing that a suit was filed within days. So the lawyer was able to get a lab to look at it, get all the witnesses, and get her statements all in order and then quickly get it filed.

The time it took to file really has no bearing on the actual merits of the lawsuit. Attorneys file quickly like this all the time here in NY and then amend at a later date when new information is obtained through discovery, etc.

(Source: I'm an attorney in NY)

 

[CKwik240]

From what I'm reading, it seems like there's only this one incident. Everyone remember the Samsung Messages bug from the S9+ which would supposedly send pictures to random people (which even I thought I'd experienced)? It seemed to be a few isolated incidents, and wasn't deemed a systematic issue with the phone. I'm guessing the same thing is going to be the case here since it's been several days without reports of further incidents.

Impossible to say without knowing the failure mode. It's unlikely to be the same cause as the Note 7 battery fires. Thus it's impossible to say how frequently such a fire might occur.

 

[Mike Dee]

It's just incredible they haven't learned anything from the previous battery fires.

A removable battery is such a simple fix, now if they do a recall it will be expensive and inconvenient. And both of these will be passed onto the consumer.

Removable batteries are history

 

[anon(631531)]

Don't know about the phone catching fire, but i have been hearing about bad lower speaker volume. I just waiting......for the other shoe to drop. Ouch!!!