Note 10+ takes more than 1 hour 30 minutes to charge from 0% to 100%

[anon(10181084)]

Also, the charging tests you see on YouTube are the first time the battery was brought down to 0%. Constantly doing that kills the battery. Lithium batteries are not deep-discharge batteries. If you can't charge it by the time it gets down to 40%, turn it off.

Good luck with that. Life is not a battery care cakewalk for tech addicts, and we with expensive devices want the most out of our batteries. I personally try to avoid emptying fully, especially after my tablet which was fully emptied (or near fully) is now having charging issues after 80-85 when after discharging doing heavy tasks with lots of high power USB stuff plugged in (occasionally shuts off, either auto rebooting or needing a jumpstart from the charger, if the battery voltage suddenly drops) where once it reaches somewhere within said current range it profusely abnormally throttles the charging speed. Left it a whole afternoon charging from 5% (it dropped from 12 or so after having it turned off all night...) and it was stuck at 85 when I came back, showing like 150mA charging current. I am taking much better care of my phone battery, charging from between 15-45%. The laptop is the easiest to take care of and I usually keep it above 35%. Charging to 100% is something I cannot shake though. I agree that caring for batteries is a good idea but propagating extreme measures like that is a little excessive. We didn't buy expensive phones to only use 40% of the battery, and thinking about that percentage stuff only serves to breed stress, overthinking and OCD. I had an iPod battery last me 6 years and it was most of the time fully emptied.

 

[anon(10181084)]

That letting the battery get below 40% is bunk. That's now how Lithium Ion batteries work. That's garbage that was posted years ago and it still seems to be hanging around.

Lithium batteries are much improved nowadays, and when you fully discharge it is usually at a dafe level well above what can damage a lithium battery (there are protection circuits just in case, anyway).

 

[anon(10181084)]

You can if you want to, but bring the battery down to 0% every time ind it probably won't last 6 months. So that's 2-4 battery replacements. With some phones, that's the price of a new phone.

Totally WRONG. My dad habitually did that with one phone and the battery still worked perfectly and outlived the rest of the device after almost 2 years. I also habitually did it with an iPod classic 7th gen back in the day and that thing lasted 6 years before the battery gradually decreased in the last 2 years and then abruptly lost almost all capacity. Still I try to not deep discarge my phone, and I almost never fully discharge my laptop (it has a mere 300 cycle non removable battery in it). I think that batteries in some phones might be deliberately made to not like deep discharging so that we have to replace them sooner. No offense meant, but stop trying to get people to stress about battery charging habits. These devices are meant to withstand Joe Average who knows nothing about tech. I personally cannot live with 40-80% range, nor can many especially with smaller battery devices. When I had a 5000mAh rugged phone charging after 27-40 was the norm so that I would have power the next dah but I used it so much I lost capacity still dropped to 56% after 1.5 years. Still lasted 6.5 hours SoT with heavy use.

 

[anon(10181084)]

Message to all moderators and especially @Rukbat:
I am tired of battery related threads turning into a charge habit dispute that goes nowhere. Suggesting a charging pattern is OK, but that whole "you have to turn it off at 40%" is rediculous and just causes these battles. Also, trying to talk/order people into OBSESSIVELY checking that they don't charge past 80% is just nonsense for practical daily life. This forum is not a place for battling and breeding paranoia based on theoretical stuff that doesn't really translate into practice because there are protections built into our devices. Manufacturers wouldn't let us discharge to harmful levels, as I've said in several replies prior to this. 40% of a battery doesn't last at all, especially for heavy users like me (and many others on this forum) that have to charge phones up to 3x daily.

 

[B. Diddy]

The way I look at it, it's a guideline. If you want to prolong your battery as much as possible, try not to let it discharge deeply on a regular basis. It doesn't mean you can never let it drop to zero every now and then, but if a user habitually lets it drop to zero, the battery won't last as long. I agree that it's clearly not feasible for most average users to watch their battery level like a hawk and make sure it's always between 40% and 80%. But on the other hand, I'm sure you know very well that we constantly get questions about batteries that are pooping out within 1-2 years, and I think it's reasonable to say that using a battery hard (i.e., deep discharging frequently) is a significant factor.

 

[anon(10181084)]

The way I look at it, it's a guideline. If you want to prolong your battery as much as possible, try not to let it discharge deeply on a regular basis. It doesn't mean you can never let it drop to zero every now and then, but if a user habitually lets it drop to zero, the battery won't last as long. I agree that it's clearly not feasible for most average users to watch their battery level like a hawk and make sure it's always between 40% and 80%. But on the other hand, I'm sure you know very well that we constantly get questions about batteries that are pooping out within 1-2 years, and I think it's reasonable to say that using a battery hard (i.e., deep discharging frequently) is a significant factor.

Yeah. Fully agreed. Those examples of constant emptying I gave are from the days when I didn't know better. But the elephant in the room here is that I don't want to see any more threads turn into battery habit opinion battles that go nowhere. Maybe there should be a dedicated sticky thread for this.

 

[Mooncatt]

Maybe there should be a dedicated sticky thread for this.

You mean like this one?

https://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=500054

 

[B. Diddy]

I think the key thing would be to do a simple reference to that sticky, rather than reproducing it repeatedly within threads.

 

[anon(10181084)]

Yes exactly! Thanks for letting me know of that sticky! I honestly did not even know that existed. We should use that as a reference so that regular threads don't get messed up like this one. Not sure about you, but I like clean no-controversy forum threads that stay on topic as much as possible.