Note 7 - This lag is unfreakingbelievable

[petvas72]

I don't think that anybody is really bothered by it. Some people just do not like it when a phone is considered by the press to be the best phone (or at least from a big portion of the press), but in reality has basic and important issues, at least for some of the devices. Missinforming people and misleading them is not really nice. The XDA article is trying to point out performance issues. Read the Android Authority review. They love the phone, but also mention that the performance is not very good. The press has a job: To properly inform people. Misleading them (for whatever reason) is not nice.
I do not buy for a second that the Note 7 is the best phone out there. Not even for a millisecond.
Everyone has a different taste, different needs. What is "the best" for me, is not necessarily "the best" for you. Having said that, tech blogs that say this is the phone of the year, and are not mentioning the performance issues of this device, are not very professional, or have a hidden agenda.
The Android Authority review is an example of a review that is honest. They loved the phone and also mentioned that performance was not great. This kind of review I accept and respect, even if I do not share the opinions stated in that review.
My personal opinion about the Samsung S7 and Note 7 phones is very simple: Samsung has implemented design elements of premium phones, only because they were accused in the past for using cheap materials. I do not see the same care and attention to detail, as seen on the iPhone and many HTC devices.
The Samsung phones might look beautiful, but the curved display is not really providing an added value (my opinion). The speaker is also very mediocre, if you care about audio. All in all, the Samsung phones of this year are ok, but nothing more than that. I know that many people will disagree with that and I respect that. We all have our own opinion.
As far as the performance issues concern, I believe what has been reported so far. The Samsung track record in regards to fluidity of the UI is not exactly good. I have to say though, I haven't touched a Note 7 myself (it is not available here in Germany yet).
I have used the S7 Edge of my brother and I can see lag. My brother on the other side, loves his S7 Edge. He doesn't see any lag whatsoever..

 

[Adranalyne]

I don't think that anybody is really bothered by it. Some people just do not like it when a phone is considered by the press to be the best phone (or at least from a big portion of the press), but in reality has basic and important issues, at least for some of the devices. Missinforming people and misleading them is not really nice. The XDA article is trying to point out performance issues. Read the Android Authority review. They love the phone, but also mention that the performance is not very good. The press has a job: To properly inform people. Misleading them (for whatever reason) is not nice.
I do not buy for a second that the Note 7 is the best phone out there. Not even for a millisecond.
Everyone has a different taste, different needs. What is "the best" for me, is not necessarily "the best" for you. Having said that, tech blogs that say this is the phone of the year, and are not mentioning the performance issues of this device, are not very professional, or have a hidden agenda.
The Android Authority review is an example of a review that is honest. They loved the phone and also mentioned that performance was not great. This kind of review I accept and respect, even if I do not share the opinions stated in that review.
My personal opinion about the Samsung S7 and Note 7 phones is very simple: Samsung has implemented design elements of premium phones, only because they were accused in the past for using cheap materials. I do not see the same care and attention to detail, as seen on the iPhone and many HTC devices.
The Samsung phones might look beautiful, but the curved display is not really providing an added value (my opinion). The speaker is also very mediocre, if you care about audio. All in all, the Samsung phones of this year are ok, but nothing more than that. I know that many people will disagree with that and I respect that. We all have our own opinion.
As far as the performance issues concern, I believe what has been reported so far. The Samsung track record in regards to fluidity of the UI is not exactly good. I have to say though, I haven't touched a Note 7 myself (it is not available here in Germany yet).
I have used the S7 Edge of my brother and I can see lag. My brother on the other side, loves his S7 Edge. He doesn't see any lag whatsoever..

So you've had no experience with the device itself, own an HTC 10, and have a problem with media outlets reporting this as "phone of the year". If anyone had any questions on why you aren't a fan, I think this cleared that up.

 

[neil123456]

See I didn't perceive it as lag on my phone, it was plenty fast for me. The issue in my book was the animation choppiness and everyone's favorite word "jank". I think alot of it was due to AT&T just loading the phone up with nonsense, and the fact that touchwiz launcher is just hot hot garbage.

But really, loved the Note, but returned it so I could look into an Exynos unlocked version. I don't think I can buy carrier phones anymore. There so much extra trash loaded on them it just makes my heart hurt. It's been a good year since I've had one, and its unbelievable what they get away with.

Could you keep us updated on the Exynos unlocked handset please as this is the route I am hoping to go down.

 

[TonyStarks260]

Could you keep us updated on the Exynos unlocked handset please as this is the route I am hoping to go down.

For sure, It may be a while though everything I'm seeing on Amazon is like 950+ for the N930F version. Hopefully those prices will start to come down some

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Could you keep us updated on the Exynos unlocked handset please as this is the route I am hoping to go down.

I have one. SM-N930F.

So far, performance is good, but it does lag at times when you really push it.

Some of my other phones do lag in similar situations, so I wouldn't call it a big deal.

I will say this, though. If you're used to the speed and relative fluidity of the UI on a Nexus, the Note might feel a little slow in comparison due to the animations.

 

[Adranalyne]

Re: This lag is unfreakingbelievable

It always seems to be people that haven't posted in any other thread in the device's forum, too. Which definitely seems suspect.

That being said, my Note 4 did have a lot of lag but it was still an awesome device.

It's not like I've never owned a Samsung device that lagged a little. It happens. Happened a lot with older versions of TouchWiz because they just didn't seem to care about the experience. Same with their build quality. After years of getting beat over the head with it, they listened and significantly improved their build quality and software experience.

The second that iPhone video came out with the app loading test, there came all the same people out of the woodwork claiming their phone "lagged". I think it's safe to be skeptical that a good portion of said people don't even own the device. Is the performance perfect? No. Is it laggy by any means? Not at all.

 

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[eyecon82]

Re: This lag is unfreakingbelievable

It's not like I've never owned a Samsung device that lagged a little. It happens. Happened a lot with older versions of TouchWiz because they just didn't seem to care about the experience. Same with their build quality. After years of getting beat over the head with it, they listened and significantly improved their build quality and software experience.

The second that iPhone video came out with the app loading test, there came all the same people out of the woodwork claiming their phone "lagged". I think it's safe to be skeptical that a good portion of said people don't even own the device. Is the performance perfect? No. Is it laggy by any means? Not at all.

I haven't seen that iPhone video, nor do I plan in doing so.

Justify it all you want, but I really did expect more out of this "premium" device.

 

[Adranalyne]

I have one. SM-N930F.

So far, performance is good, but it does lag at times when you really push it.

Some of my other phones do lag in similar situations, so I wouldn't call it a big deal.

I will say this, though. If you're used to the speed and relative fluidity of the UI on a Nexus, the Note might feel a little slow in comparison due to the animations.

I wouldn't even say the Nexus is faster. More fluid? Definitely. The UI is about as minimal as you can get. What people need to keep in mind is the type of phone you're getting. The Note 7 is the most feature-packed device there is out there today. The Nexus 6P? One of the least feature-packed devices out there today. Every year, the same crowd proclaims "Oh man, if only this ran stock Android" to the new Samsung devices. Then you'd be trading Samsung's camera app for Google's. You'd lose all S Pen functionality. You'd lose Samsung's vastly improved power saving modes. You'd lose all the features that make this device what it is.

It's absolutely fair to point out that Samsung devices aren't as smooth as a Nexus or iPhone. It's also fair to point out that Samsung devices are infinitely more capable as a result of losing that smoothness, too. Anyone who's owned these devices can attest to that stuff. But to call it a complete lagfest? Come on now. It's stuff like that that leads me to believe half these people don't even own the phone.

 

[crystinonfire]

I have a t-mobile N7 and it does lag in certain situations (stuttering during scrolling, etc), especially compared to my N5.

I think it's unfair of people with phones who don't lag to say that just because theirs doesn't, no phones do. I would never tell someone who says their phone doesn't lag that it does lag, so please don't say my lag isn't real - especially if we don't have the same carrier.

My phone also gets absurdly hot sometimes.

I'll deal with the lag in order to get expandable storage and a free 256gb sd card. If not for that I'd probably go back to the N5.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

I wouldn't even say the Nexus is faster. More fluid? Definitely. The UI is about as minimal as you can get. What people need to keep in mind is the type of phone you're getting. The Note 7 is the most feature-packed device there is out there today. The Nexus 6P? One of the least feature-packed devices out there today. Every year, the same crowd proclaims "Oh man, if only this ran stock Android" to the new Samsung devices. Then you'd be trading Samsung's camera app for Google's. You'd lose all S Pen functionality. You'd lose Samsung's vastly improved power saving modes. You'd lose all the features that make this device what it is.

It's absolutely fair to point out that Samsung devices aren't as smooth as a Nexus or iPhone. It's also fair to point out that Samsung devices are infinitely more capable as a result of losing that smoothness, too. Anyone who's owned these devices can attest to that stuff. But to call it a complete lagfest? Come on now. It's stuff like that that leads me to believe half these people don't even own the phone.

Definitely. If you're buying a Samsung, chances are, you're likely going to use some of the extra features that comes with the device.

I use the S Pen a lot on my Note, and I would trade the increased flexibility and functionality that my Note has over a few milliseconds of time saved when opening an app. Of course, your mileage will certainly vary.

Like everything, Samsung phones are not for everyone, hence why I keep repeating the line "Buy what you want".

 

[anon(10000748)]

I am not having much "lag" per say but there are a few software issues im having with apps that I use literally every day that are somewhat deal breakers. I use waze for navigation exclusively. Today I cannot get the app to close or to open properly.

 

[anon(10000748)]

I am not having much "lag" per say but there are a few software issues im having with apps that I use literally every day that are somewhat deal breakers. I use waze for navigation exclusively. Today I cannot get the app to close or to open properly.

 

[1213 1213]

I don't think that anybody is really bothered by it. Some people just do not like it when a phone is considered by the press to be the best phone (or at least from a big portion of the press), but in reality has basic and important issues, at least for some of the devices. Missinforming people and misleading them is not really nice. The XDA article is trying to point out performance issues. Read the Android Authority review. They love the phone, but also mention that the performance is not very good. The press has a job: To properly inform people. Misleading them (for whatever reason) is not nice.
I do not buy for a second that the Note 7 is the best phone out there. Not even for a millisecond.
Everyone has a different taste, different needs. What is "the best" for me, is not necessarily "the best" for you. Having said that, tech blogs that say this is the phone of the year, and are not mentioning the performance issues of this device, are not very professional, or have a hidden agenda.
The Android Authority review is an example of a review that is honest. They loved the phone and also mentioned that performance was not great. This kind of review I accept and respect, even if I do not share the opinions stated in that review.
My personal opinion about the Samsung S7 and Note 7 phones is very simple: Samsung has implemented design elements of premium phones, only because they were accused in the past for using cheap materials. I do not see the same care and attention to detail, as seen on the iPhone and many HTC devices.
The Samsung phones might look beautiful, but the curved display is not really providing an added value (my opinion). The speaker is also very mediocre, if you care about audio. All in all, the Samsung phones of this year are ok, but nothing more than that. I know that many people will disagree with that and I respect that. We all have our own opinion.
As far as the performance issues concern, I believe what has been reported so far. The Samsung track record in regards to fluidity of the UI is not exactly good. I have to say though, I haven't touched a Note 7 myself (it is not available here in Germany yet).
I have used the S7 Edge of my brother and I can see lag. My brother on the other side, loves his S7 Edge. He doesn't see any lag whatsoever..

There is only one metric by which you could begin to judge whether a phone is 'phone of the year' and that is customer satisfaction. The galaxy note 5 already had the highest customer satisfaction rate according to consumer reports. This is supported by most reviews.

And yet, you come along, with no experience with the phone, and criticise all that.

 

[crystinonfire]

To me, the issue isn't does Samsung lag in general, or is a Note 7 faster than a Nexus 6p or an iPhone 6s plus.

The only thing I care about is whether my Note 7 performs better than my Note 5 (running lollipop) and so far it doesn't.

 

[thunderup]

I've only encountered any kind of lag in two places. As someone else mentioned, pulling down the notification shade while in maps navigation was very laggy. Also, while using Google keyboard if I hold down the backspace key to delete a lot of words or an entire sentence, that gets laggy as well. Overall, though, I'm extremely happy with the phone. This is my first Samsung device coming from the last 3 generations of the Moto X and I haven't considered returning this thing even for a second.

 

[Kevin OQuinn]

Here is what I wonder (and maybe someone already knows):

How much of the iPhone appearing faster is because of the custom storage solution? Having used an iPhone 6s+ for about a month I can say that nothing a normal person would be doing would cause a significant slowdown. Not even downloading a crapload of app updates would cause a stutter.

That being said, it wasn't perfect (I don't want to sound like that's what I'm claiming). But it was pretty difficult to make it slow down at all.


This also makes me wonder if Apple is doing some smart cache/RAM management. With the storage being so fast it seems likely that they could cache the last thing you do with an app when it's kicked from memory. Then when you open that app again, instead of calling for a refresh from network (which is infinitely slower than onboard storage or memory) they just pull that cache and you're on your way. It's fast enough that this would be imperceptible to user. Since that's also the last thing YOU did with that app you will think it just came from memory.

I'm sure this could be tested, but I don't have an iPhone to do it. This could also be a rabbit hole of "yeah, but they could do THIS to get around THAT" type of discussion when things like "but what about reboots" are brought up.

What I'm saying is, Apple has a ton of really smart engineers doing ingenious things in iOS. They could have devised a way to improve the user experience so that RAM management isn't so in-your-face.

 

[cbrines]

Keyboard lag is prevalent on my Note 7 and S7E. Both have been reset, and my S7E is my work device, so it's running with basically no apps installed and I still have keyboard lag.

N7 is going back and I'm sticking with my 6P for another year.

 

[D13H4RD2L1V3]

Here is what I wonder (and maybe someone already knows):

How much of the iPhone appearing faster is because of the custom storage solution? Having used an iPhone 6s+ for about a month I can say that nothing a normal person would be doing would cause a significant slowdown. Not even downloading a crapload of app updates would cause a stutter.

That being said, it wasn't perfect (I don't want to sound like that's what I'm claiming). But it was pretty difficult to make it slow down at all.


This also makes me wonder if Apple is doing some smart cache/RAM management. With the storage being so fast it seems likely that they could cache the last thing you do with an app when it's kicked from memory. Then when you open that app again, instead of calling for a refresh from network (which is infinitely slower than onboard storage or memory) they just pull that cache and you're on your way. It's fast enough that this would be imperceptible to user. Since that's also the last thing YOU did with that app you will think it just came from memory.

I'm sure this could be tested, but I don't have an iPhone to do it. This could also be a rabbit hole of "yeah, but they could do THIS to get around THAT" type of discussion when things like "but what about reboots" are brought up.

What I'm saying is, Apple has a ton of really smart engineers doing ingenious things in iOS. They could have devised a way to improve the user experience so that RAM management isn't so in-your-face.

I have the iPad Pro 12.9, which has the same storage controller as the iPhone 6s.

Perhaps I might give it a shot.

 

[Deke218]

Zero lag issues but the again I don't feel the need to have 200 apps installed at all times. Also,it may just be a case of your device updating apps in the background causing the lag. Try going into airplane mode and see of the lag still persist.