NYC: TMobile 5G's 3 types of 5G -- any good yet?

[Dualmonitors]

may i please ask the good folks here who have experience with TMobile's 5G in NYC how good it is currently?

i have no experience with 5G yet, until my S20 Ultra arrives in a couple of weeks.

there are THREE types of 5G which, in theory, would combine to bring good 5G service for TMobile users.

would love to learn more.

thank you.

 

[msm0511]

may i please ask the good folks here who have experience with TMobile's 5G in NYC how good it is currently?

i have no experience with 5G yet, until my S20 Ultra arrives in a couple of weeks.

there are THREE types of 5G which, in theory, would combine to bring good 5G service for TMobile users.

would love to learn more.

thank you.

Well, TMo isn't focused on mmWave right now, and the midband 5G they'll get from Sprint will most likely take a while to implement, so you're really just dealing with sub-6 5G on TMo right now. There are advantages and disadvantages with sub-6. It provides much better coverage than mmWave which even trees can affect, but you're not gonna get the crazy speeds of mmWave when using sub-6. It's only about a 20% or so speed bump.

 

[claykin]

Well, TMo isn't focused on mmWave right now, and the midband 5G they'll get from Sprint will most likely take a while to implement, so you're really just dealing with sub-6 5G on TMo right now. There are advantages and disadvantages with sub-6. It provides much better coverage than mmWave which even trees can affect, but you're not gonna get the crazy speeds of mmWave when using sub-6. It's only about a 20% or so speed bump.

Sprints 2.5Ghz Midband is part of sub6. Everything below 6Ghz is Sub6.

Otherwise I agree. TMo 5G phones (in 5G areas) will see better bandwidth even during peak usage times.

 

[cnotes2019]

Why Isn’t T-Mobile and At&T giving mmwave more attention? I mean I’ve read there are ways to implement it outside as well as inside. At&T has 5+ here but only for businesses which is ridiculous

 

[claykin]

Why Isn’t T-Mobile and At&T giving mmwave more attention? I mean I’ve read there are ways to implement it outside as well as inside. At&T has 5+ here but only for businesses which is ridiculous

They both own mmwave spectrum. TMobile has focused on 600Mhz for 5G for now while they await the Sprint merger to close. Once it does they'll add Sprints 2.5Ghz midband to their 5G. TMobile is reserving mmwave for some fixed wireless in very high dense areas, and it appears they're taking the more wait and see approach.

AT&T is currently using their 850Mhz for 5G and possibly some mmwave in high density areas.

The issue with mmwave is range is very short, hundreds of feet only. It's also absorbed and heavily attenuated by just about any obstruction, including trees. Mmwave best use for the time being will be fixed wireless. I. E. Broadband to a home/business over mmwave. Again, expect to see it only deployed in very dense areas.... For now.

FCC is also opening the 3.5Ghz midband for carriers to bid on. My bet is carriers jump on this for additional spectrum since they're quickly learning mmwave is expensive to deploy, especially considering its poor coverage per tower.

 

[cnotes2019]

They both own mmwave spectrum. TMobile has focused on 600Mhz for 5G for now while they await the Sprint merger to close. Once it does they'll add Sprints 2.5Ghz midband to their 5G. TMobile is reserving mmwave for some fixed wireless in very high dense areas, and it appears they're taking the more wait and see approach.

AT&T is currently using their 850Mhz for 5G and possibly some mmwave in high density areas.

The issue with mmwave is range is very short, hundreds of feet only. It's also absorbed and heavily attenuated by just about any obstruction, including trees. Mmwave best use for the time being will be fixed wireless. I. E. Broadband to a home/business over mmwave. Again, expect to see it only deployed in very dense areas.... For now.

FCC is also opening the 3.5Ghz midband for carriers to bid on. My bet is carriers jump on this for additional spectrum since they're quickly learning mmwave is expensive to deploy, especially considering its poor coverage per tower.

I know but they’ve deployed it here. But again. Only for businesses. Why? And Is only for businesses in other cities that they’ve deployed mmwave?

 

[Dualmonitors]

They both own mmwave spectrum. TMobile has focused on 600Mhz for 5G for now while they await the Sprint merger to close. Once it does they'll add Sprints 2.5Ghz midband to their 5G. TMobile is reserving mmwave for some fixed wireless in very high dense areas, and it appears they're taking the more wait and see approach.

AT&T is currently using their 850Mhz for 5G and possibly some mmwave in high density areas.

The issue with mmwave is range is very short, hundreds of feet only. It's also absorbed and heavily attenuated by just about any obstruction, including trees. Mmwave best use for the time being will be fixed wireless. I. E. Broadband to a home/business over mmwave. Again, expect to see it only deployed in very dense areas.... For now.

FCC is also opening the 3.5Ghz midband for carriers to bid on. My bet is carriers jump on this for additional spectrum since they're quickly learning mmwave is expensive to deploy, especially considering its poor coverage per tower.

well, nyc certainly qualifies as "very dense areas", so hopefully, whatever technology TMobile will deploy here will be suitable for 5G to be amazing in nyc! wishful thinking?

 

[romanbonnet20111]

well, nyc certainly qualifies as "very dense areas", so hopefully, whatever technology TMobile will deploy here will be suitable for 5G to be amazing in nyc! wishful thinking?

I wish I still lived in NY lol

 

[Dualmonitors]

i can't imagine why TMobile will hurt all their NYC customers by not prividing good 5G service.

wouldn't that be a PR nightmare, when millions of NYC customers complain about their lack of good 5G? it would be totally worth their while to pump NYC up with great 5G so they receive accolades from so many customers, one would think.