Op Ed: Google's Looming Pixel 4 disappointment

[mustang7757]

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[Mike Dee]

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[Mike Dee]

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[mustang7757]

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You have a short between the ears , clean you inbox ..

 

[mustang7757]

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[Mike Dee]

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Got it but don't get it

 

[mustang7757]

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[Golurk]

I think you think there's a greater emphasis for them in hardware then there really is. If OnePlus doesn't sell handsets, then that's problems for the business as a whole. Don't sell them for a long time and your business is over.

Google could stop selling hardware tomorrow and wouldn't miss a beat. It's practically a rounding error for accounting at this point. That's a bit of hyperbole, but you get my point. Hardware exists to extend the brand, nothing more. They aren't "living and dying" off of phone sales like other OEM's.

As enthusiasts, we may not like it, but Google is company that's more diverse than just selling phones. Phone sales are comparatively more important to One Plus or even Apple. That said, even Apple is preparing for a world where phone sales are deemphasized.

I think you’ve misunderstood me. I know Google can afford to suddenly discontinue the Pixel phones. I know it’s main source of revenue is from advertising and its search engine/cloud plus services (e.g Google Drive). What I was saying is that consumers don’t care...as long as the Pixel phones exist, they will be compared to competitors.
@cardboard60

Thanks for the compliment

 

[Mike Dee]

I think you’ve misunderstood me. I know Google can afford to suddenly discontinue the Pixel phones. I know it’s main source of revenue is from advertising and its search engine/cloud plus services (e.g Google Drive). What I was saying is that consumers don’t care...as long as the Pixel phones exist, they will be compared to competitors.
@cardboard60

Thanks for the compliment

Consumers should just buy what that want instead of expecting a particular device to be built as if they were designing it. Speaking through your wallet sends the best message.

 

[Golurk]

Consumers should just buy what that want instead of expecting a particular device to be built as if they were designing it. Speaking through your wallet sends the best message.

I agree (although what I was saying is a different point).

 

[Mike Dee]

I agree (although what I was saying is a different point).

Yeah....I was just adding to what you said

 

[anon(10092459)]

I think you’ve misunderstood me. I know Google can afford to suddenly discontinue the Pixel phones. I know it’s main source of revenue is from advertising and its search engine/cloud plus services (e.g Google Drive). What I was saying is that consumers don’t care...as long as the Pixel phones exist, they will be compared to competitors.

@cardboard60

Thanks for the compliment

Perhaps I have misunderstood your point. I've read your posts as speaking on behave of the "consumer". My point is I believe that Google has it's own goals that they want to accomplish that are independent of the consumers desires for their hardware.

IMO, Google has developed a suite of hardware products that highlight Google's services first and foremost. This isn't about Android or competing in Android, but more that Google recognizes a lot of people use their services and have built an offering to deliver their experience to the consumer base that wants it. In other words, I don't think that they're necessarily interested in appeasing what the consumer thinks they should be doing and then build to that.

If a consumer desires something else, i.e. more storage, mega specs or whatever it may be, then that consumer probably isn't going to want what Google is offering because they've said more than once that they aren't looking to get into some spec race. It's just not the brand for them.

 

[Mike Dee]

Perhaps I have misunderstood your point. I've read your posts as speaking on behave of the "consumer". My point is I believe that Google has it's own goals that they want to accomplish that are independent of the consumers desires for their hardware.

IMO, Google has developed a suite of hardware products that highlight Google's services first and foremost. This isn't about Android or competing in Android, but more that Google recognizes a lot of people use their services and have built an offering to deliver their experience to the consumer base that wants it. In other words, I don't think that they're necessarily interested in appeasing what the consumer thinks they should be doing and then build to that.

If a consumer desires something else, i.e. more storage, mega specs or whatever it may be, then that consumer probably isn't going to want what Google is offering because they've said more than once that they aren't looking to get into some spec race. It's just not the brand for them.

Yes....that was the original concept behind the first Nexus. Deliver what they thought Android should be.

 

[LeoRex]

Yes....that was the original concept behind the first Nexus. Deliver what they thought Android should be.

Right, Google is after experience. Specs become secondary at that point and merely a means to an end. The 3a is a perfect example of that in action. I got one for my wife and she loves it... It runs great, takes great pictures, gets her through the day without needing to reach for a charger. It gives her the same premium experience she had with the higher end phones she's had in the past.

A good experience will render spec-hunting moot... And even the highest shelf hardware means nothing if things go to hell.

 

[Golfdriver97]

Right, Google is after experience. Specs become secondary at that point and merely a means to an end. The 3a is a perfect example of that in action. I got one for my wife and she loves it... It runs great, takes great pictures, gets her through the day without needing to reach for a charger. It gives her the same premium experience she had with the higher end phones she's had in the past.

A good experience will render spec-hunting moot... And even the highest shelf hardware means nothing if things go to hell.

And given how most people use devices, who really gets close to giving a device a run for it's money on specs? Not many.

I keep wondering when consumers are going to push back in terms of the price point.

 

[mustang7757]

Right, Google is after experience. Specs become secondary at that point and merely a means to an end. The 3a is a perfect example of that in action. I got one for my wife and she loves it... It runs great, takes great pictures, gets her through the day without needing to reach for a charger. It gives her the same premium experience she had with the higher end phones she's had in the past.

A good experience will render spec-hunting moot... And even the highest shelf hardware means nothing if things go to hell.

I agree , I picked up the pixel 3a ..after handing my 3xl in to Samsung for Note 10+
It's just as capable as my 3xl was and a great buy .

 

[mustang7757]

And given how most people use devices, who really gets close to giving a device a run for it's money on specs? Not many.

I keep wondering when consumers are going to push back in terms of the price point.

Good point!

 

[ezdoit]

I agree , I picked up the pixel 3a ..after handing my 3xl in to Samsung for Note 10+
It's just as capable as my 3xl was and a great buy .

The 3a I had did all I ever needed to do and then some, but it is gone and I am back to the Pixel 3 XL for no logical reason other than I want to.

 

[mustang7757]

The 3a I had did all I ever needed to do and then some, but it is gone and I am back to the Pixel 3 XL for no logical reason other than I want to.

Yeah , great phone !