Possible Verizon C-band announcement Tuesday?

[Davidoo]

Saw this on Reddit....
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/rt0oqq/verizon_announcement_planned_for_14_at_1pm_et/

Can anyone verify the P6P's modem will get C-band when they turn it on? I saw an old thread where some said the modem can received C-band, but will it require an update to activate it, or can it receive those bands automatically when they are turned on? Would be a shame if it requires an update since we all know those of us with the 6 aren't getting an update till "late in January." I understand they may not be able to turn it on near airports yet.

 

[eshropshire]

I thought Verizon and AT&T have delayed their C-Band roll-out until this Summer to provide more time for testing with the airlines.

 

[Maljunulo]

I just read somewhere that they effectively told the airlines to pound sand, and they are going ahead as planned.

 

[Davidoo]

And I thought they could still go ahead and the only concern was around 50 airports. Back to the original question, will we be able to get C-band on the 6 and 6 Pro?

 

[bkdodger2]

I think Google will have to be the one answering that question...


C-band will be included in most new flagship phones shipping in 2022 and is already included with many that shipped in 2021. The iPhone 12 and 13 models both support C-band 5G alongside some Android devices like the Samsung Galaxy S21 and Z Fold 3. Phones will likely need a software update to enable the new bands as well.


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[David Thomas24]

not any more going ahead has plan

https://9to5mac.com/2022/01/03/att-...sion-despite-faa-concerns-over-flight-safety/

 

[anon(40376)]

Hold is back on again
https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/att-and-verizon-agree-to-new-delay-of-5g-rollout

As an ex-federal employee, I'm wondering if this is just not typical DC infighting between two agencies; FCC - DOT?

They have been using the same band (N77) for 5G in Japan for a few years and yet, they have had no plane electronic problems and yet for some reason, some say they will in the USA. And altimeters work on the same frequencies here and in Japan.

 

[idiotekniques]

Verizon will launch C Band on January 19th, Biden said it as well.

Also Verizon said the pixel 6 series will get an update to work with the c band network

 

[Davidoo]

Verizon will launch C Band on January 19th, Biden said it as well.

Also Verizon said the pixel 6 series will get an update to work with the c band network

With the way updates are going, who knows how many months it would be for us to get it?

 

[idiotekniques]

With the way updates are going, who knows how many months it would be for us to get it?

Yeah with Verizon and updates, who knows. I switched to Verizon when the six launched, my experience with their network in Northeast New Jersey was pretty mediocre. Troubleshooted the pixel 6 for over a month and it wasn't the phone. It was the network.

I switch to Google Fi two days ago and I'm already having a much better signal experience here.

I'm curious to see what the coverage will be like when Verizon turns on C-Band, although I'm not sure how much it will increase coverage rather than increase the speed and bandwidth over existing coverage.

 

[anon(40376)]

When it is switched on, it is a very limited area with a very limited range. Higher the frequencies the lower the range as experienced with mmWave.



Verizon's plan is to add a lot more C-band service in 2023-2024 or so it was a few months ago.

If on ATT and purchasing a new phone and need faster speed and live in an ATT area that is getting it, might be worthwhile to have a c-bank capable phone.

For Verizon since they are going a lot bigger with market areas in 2022 (original was late 2021 but we know how that was put back) same as for ATT, need it, in an area getting it, make sure the phone is C-band qualified.

For T-Mobile nothing till 2024,

 

[idiotekniques]

When it is switched on, it is a very limited area with a very limited range. Higher the frequencies the lower the range as experienced with mmWave.

View attachment 340241

Verizon's plan is to add a lot more C-band service in 2023-2024 or so it was a few months ago.

If on ATT and purchasing a new phone and need faster speed and live in an ATT area that is getting it, might be worthwhile to have a c-bank capable phone.

For Verizon since they are going a lot bigger with market areas in 2022 (original was late 2021 but we know how that was put back) same as for ATT, need it, in an area getting it, make sure the phone is C-band qualified.

For T-Mobile nothing till 2024,

When it is switched on, it is a very limited area with a very limited range. Higher the frequencies the lower the range as experienced with mmWave.

View attachment 340241

Verizon's plan is to add a lot more C-band service in 2023-2024 or so it was a few months ago.

If on ATT and purchasing a new phone and need faster speed and live in an ATT area that is getting it, might be worthwhile to have a c-bank capable phone.

For Verizon since they are going a lot bigger with market areas in 2022 (original was late 2021 but we know how that was put back) same as for ATT, need it, in an area getting it, make sure the phone is C-band qualified.

For T-Mobile nothing till 2024,

When Verizon was so disappointing, I went quickly with TMobile since they have so much going on in lower frequencies like 600mhz which is great for range and building penetration vs the C Band spectrum of Verizon.

But your chart is misleading there - when Verizon says CBand is launching in two weeks in NYC, that counts a huge chunk of the NYC metro area, including most of Connecticut - even though not one city in CT is listed there. That's been in all the articles I've read.

 

[anon(40376)]

When Verizon was so disappointing, I went quickly with TMobile since they have so much going on in lower frequencies like 600mhz which is great for range and building penetration vs the C Band spectrum of Verizon.

But your chart is misleading there - when Verizon says CBand is launching in two weeks in NYC, that counts a huge chunk of the NYC metro area, including most of Connecticut - even though not one city in CT is listed there. That's been in all the articles I've read.

FIRST OF ALL IT IS NOT MY CHART! I did not make it up, it is a link from another location so more properly it should be stated, " the chart in my message or the chart linked too....etc."

As to what you are saying, most of CT? C-band initiated in NYC will most likely go into CT, but MOST of CT? that's a pretty big range even for a small state like CT.

This is a listing of where the C-band emitters will be located and one location is NYC, and it shows well over 25 million population to be served by these towers; therefore if the eight million people are in NYC and 20 million in the actual metro area (and the NYC metro area is shown to go as far into CT as Waterbury CT). I am NOT implying it will go as far as Waterbury, just used Waterbury as the largest city as shown in a NYC-Metro map). I'm guessing maybe Stamford, Norwalk (GUESSING) and surrounding areas. But I have no idea. However, since radio frequencies travel across state lines a lot of people in CT will get the C-band frequencies to use.

And this is a listing of the FIRST cities to get the service. From my understanding, Verizon is constantly adding C-band emitters to other towers, they are not just at a stand still and waiting till 2024 to turn on more, some will be added throughout the years.

So not sure why the chart is incorrect? Again, not listing ALL THE CITIES that will receive C-band service, it is listing cities where C-BAND EMITTERS WILL BE LOCATED.

I am not standing up for Verizon, I do not have a Verizon account and have not been with Verizon for well over seven years. (I do have an MVNO account that uses Verizon towers only due to where I live, it is the only choice). I was just replying to add information on C-band tech and where it will be initially located. It does not even affect me one iota since where I live the closest emitter will be in SLC and that is well over 300 miles to the south of my location (+/- 20 miles). Therefore, C-band means nothing to me unless I am on the road and when on the road, I normally don't surf the internet or need data service.
Have a great day...........

 

[idiotekniques]

FIRST OF ALL IT IS NOT MY CHART! I did not make it up, it is a link from another location so more properly it should be stated, " the chart in my message or the chart linked too....etc."

As to what you are saying, most of CT? C-band initiated in NYC will most likely go into CT, but MOST of CT? that's a pretty big range even for a small state like CT.

This is a listing of where the C-band emitters will be located and one location is NYC, and it shows well over 25 million population to be served by these towers; therefore if the eight million people are in NYC and 20 million in the actual metro area (and the NYC metro area is shown to go as far into CT as Waterbury CT). I am NOT implying it will go as far as Waterbury, just used Waterbury as the largest city as shown in a NYC-Metro map). I'm guessing maybe Stamford, Norwalk (GUESSING) and surrounding areas. But I have no idea. However, since radio frequencies travel across state lines a lot of people in CT will get the C-band frequencies to use.

And this is a listing of the FIRST cities to get the service. From my understanding, Verizon is constantly adding C-band emitters to other towers, they are not just at a stand still and waiting till 2024 to turn on more, some will be added throughout the years.

So not sure why the chart is incorrect? Again, not listing ALL THE CITIES that will receive C-band service, it is listing cities where C-BAND EMITTERS WILL BE LOCATED.

I am not standing up for Verizon, I do not have a Verizon account and have not been with Verizon for well over seven years. (I do have an MVNO account that uses Verizon towers only due to where I live, it is the only choice). I was just replying to add information on C-band tech and where it will be initially located. It does not even affect me one iota since where I live the closest emitter will be in SLC and that is well over 300 miles to the south of my location (+/- 20 miles). Therefore, C-band means nothing to me unless I am on the road and when on the road, I normally don't surf the internet or need data service.
Have a great day...........

Your chart simply meant the chart in your post.

Also, no, the c band emitters located in NYC are not going to cover CT, they will be located in actual CT. The point is on the chart you posted, when it says NYC, that really means a lot more area and people than just NYC.

The same goes for the other cities in that list.

 

[Davidoo]

So Verizon says they will turn on the C-band on the 19th. In their list of devices that will work with it they note the P6P will, after an update. I wonder if the "connectivity" improvements and enhancements they mentioned as part of the delayed December update will include this capability? I live in Phoenix which is one of the areas listed, so it would be nice to get the higher speeds.