Potential Ban of Note 7 on Planes by FAA? Yep.

[Clocks]

Well that doesn't mean other flights won't.

In any case, I can't see such an unenforceable rule sticking around for much longer. Once the replacements are out there, give it a couple months, everyone will forget about this.

Unenforceable rules can stick around for a long time. The issue is not enforcement, it's liability and CYA. If/when a note 7 catches fire on a plane the owner may face civil penalties or possibly even criminal charges. No one will care if your excuse was "but tsa didn't confiscate my phone".

 

[skatergirl]

I was on two Delta flights yesterday. I heard the announcement that Note 7 phones should be powered off but phones were not inspected on the plane.

 

[Killahhops]

I just flew to Seattle via Southwest and I didn't hear an announcement. I used my phone the whole flight watching football from their WiFi.

 

[rushmore]

Now that is a heck of an advertisement. That's ~150 laypeople (probably hundreds of thousands a day on AA alone since they average nearly 7,000 flights a day) thinking "wth is a Samsung Note 7, I'm never buying one of those".

I have no problem turning the device off for flights. Note 7 boots up fast

 

[nocaldawg]

I flew Oakland to San Diego on Southwest this afternoon and they told us to power down our Samsung 7's because they are bad.......too many people running around without all the correct information.....maybe some clarity from Samsung on many issues surrounding this phone would help.....

 

[Teamjones]

Did you power off for the flight?

Yep..and THAT was MY point. It's not across the board even with the airlines. NOT "ohhh look, we got away with using our phones on a plane".

I had my iPad. Now that I think about it, my wife might have watched 2 movies on hers seeing that she left her tablet in the car at the airport

 

[smoothrunnings]

Yep..and THAT was MY point. It's not across the board even with the airlines. NOT "ohhh look, we got away with using our phones on a plane".

I had my iPad. Now that I think about it, my wife might have watched 2 movies on hers seeing that she left her tablet in the car at the airport ??????

As soon as something happens on a flight where a phones catches fire, we'll see the FAA putting a ban on them as it clear that careless folks don't care about human life, especially when flying at 30,000 feet or more. In turn if a someone's Samsung Note 7 causes injury or damage on a flight the owner of the phone better have a good lawyer. They could end up owing BILLIONS. To fix the plane and in lawsuits filed by the passengers.

 

[Baby_Doc]

I flew Oakland to San Diego on Southwest this afternoon and they told us to power down our Samsung 7's because they are bad.......too many people running around without all the correct information.....maybe some clarity from Samsung on many issues surrounding this phone would help.....

How much clearer does Samsung need to be? With the CPSC involved, Samsung has advised people to shut off their N7s, not just for getting on an airplane. Samsung will offer interim replacement phones until CPSC approved N7 replacements become available. I know there are many who think Samsung can figure out how to fix the N7 without CPSC involvement, but others don't. Some people are worried that there may be problems with protecive circuitry along with the bad cells, that Samsung may have overlooked or not reported to the public. The CPSC involvement will hopefully insure that any replacement N7 be completely safe.

 

[archer75]

Even banned on Australian and Indian flights.

 

[Teamjones]

As soon as something happens on a flight where a phones catches fire, we'll see the FAA putting a ban on them as it clear that careless folks don't care about human life, especially when flying at 30,000 feet or more. In turn if a someone's Samsung Note 7 causes injury or damage on a flight the owner of the phone better have a good lawyer. They could end up owing BILLIONS. To fix the plane and in lawsuits filed by the passengers.

I'm all for this. Don't get me wrong. I truly am. I have 3 cars with the airbag issue. All they said was when they get the parts in they will contact us to schd an appointment. I guess wearing you seatbelt is suppose to suffice till then. Not trying to pick a fight with anyone, I just don't see how they can make a big issue over phone but not the airbags. No one's saying stop driving your car. Yes it's on that individual to use their phone and if something happens it's on them. But I feel that this is getting blown out of proportion.

 

[jerrykur]

Well the wife and I flew to Vegas today and TSA didn't even bat an eye at both of our N7's. Put them in the bin and kept it moving. And they never mentioned it on the flight announcements.

Rules could be different on you way back in a few days.

 

[Teamjones]

Rules could be different on you way back in a few days.

Lol you are 100% Right. I hope not tho.

 

[monsieurms]

How much clearer does Samsung need to be? With the CPSC involved, Samsung has advised people to shut off their N7s, not just for getting on an airplane. Samsung will offer interim replacement phones until CPSC approved N7 replacements become available. I know there are many who think Samsung can figure out how to fix the N7 without CPSC involvement, but others don't. Some people are worried that there may be problems with protecive circuitry along with the bad cells, that Samsung may have overlooked or not reported to the public. The CPSC involvement will hopefully insure that any replacement N7 be completely safe.

I am already seeing many independent commentators suggest that Samsung has no way out of this--that it only makes sense to start working on a Note 8, both for safety and marketing reasons. I understand why they don't want to. After all, we're hearing numbers like approaching 1 billion dollars in loss for the recall while their stock prices crater. CNN: "The cost of the recall is estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars, analysts say. But with more than $25 billion wiped off the company's market value in less than two weeks, the bigger question is how long the fallout will last."

Those are attention-getting numbers.

They would do well to just bite the bullet, eliminate confusion, move on, turn the page. This is beginning to develop the sense of a bet-the-company issue. They can probably handle the money, but the money + reputation...that needs more dramatic action. For instance, with all the comments in this thread about plane issues--let's say most people go along with recall, some don't. Will airlines continue to insist that EVERY Note 7 be off, because they have no easy way to tell? Will that continue to damage Samsung's rep? What company wants to be the one that keeps showing up on airline announcements. Make a Note 8. Most of the problem goes away, or at least begins to be contained. You can see a light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm all for this. Don't get me wrong. I truly am. I have 3 cars with the airbag issue. All they said was when they get the prts in they will contact us to schd an appointment. I guess wearing you seatbelt is suppose to suffice till then. Not trying to pick a fight with anyone, I just don't see how they can made a big issue over phone but not the airbags. No one's saying stop driving your car. Yes it's on that individual to use their phone and if something happens it's on them. But I feel that this is getting blown out of proportion.

I don't mind playing Nanny at times, because the average person has no independent and informed way to evaluate the risk and some risks are really serious. However, the obvious differences in your example is that the airbag problem affects you and yes the seatbelt provides another method of safety that mitigates the risk. However...THe phone may affect other people. How many of us live in close quarters, high rises? If my neighbor burns his apartment down, who else will that affect?

 

[naturalguy#AC]

I just boarded a plane at Newark airport, no issue going through security, they did just make an announcement on the flight to power your note 7 down if you have one but no one is physically checking people's phones

 

[donm527]

They shouldn't have skipped naming it the Note 6 :-\ They've tainted the entire 7 brand. If they decide to wind down the Note 7 early or even if they get past this and resume selling, I heard they've pulled all advertisements from stores, they are just gonna quietly sell it and let it die not caring how many units at this point until Note 8. Rumor the S8 will be released earlier now. My concern they do that then forget any proper support or updates for the Note 7 :-\

For instance, with all the comments in this thread about plane issues--let's say most people go along with recall, some don't. Will airlines continue to insist that EVERY Note 7 be off, because they have no easy way to tell? Will that continue to damage Samsung's rep? What company wants to be the one that keeps showing up on airline announcements. Make a Note 8. Most of the problem goes away, or at least begins to be contained. You can see a light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[monsieurms]

And latest breaking news: Samsung will issue a software update that makes it impossible to charge the battery past 60%. Why? Because, said a BNP Paribas analyst, "people are not returning the phones." Does 60% make anyone (a) happy to keep this; or (b) comfortable in terms of safety? How about news that the recall isn't actually working? That doesn't make me so happy. Safety issues aside, I wonder how many people will be staring at me on a plane when I pull out a Note 4 and I wonder how long it will take for someone to tell me to put it away anyway because they have no idea what they are saying or what the issue really is. In other words--the slide into Samsung becoming a pariah.

The analyst quoted by Associated Press called this software update "a desperate measure." Indeed. It would infuriate me as a user and it still doesn't really reassure me as someone who might be affected by fires. I suspect the only measure that will work is canceling the Note 7 series and making it history as soon as possible, whether due to actual concern or just marketing savvy, or some combo of both.

 

[Morty2264]

At least you'll have your 6P to keep you company, OP!

 

[Morty2264]

And latest breaking news: Samsung will issue a software update that makes it impossible to charge the battery past 60%. Why? Because, said a BNP Paribas analyst, "people are not returning the phones." Does 60% make anyone (a) happy to keep this; or (b) comfortable in terms of safety? How about news that the recall isn't actually working? That doesn't make me so happy. Safety issues aside, I wonder how many people will be staring at me on a plane when I pull out a Note 4 and I wonder how long it will take for someone to tell me to put it away anyway because they have no idea what they are saying or what the issue really is. In other words--the slide into Samsung becoming a pariah.

The analyst quoted by Associated Press called this software update "a desperate measure." Indeed. It would infuriate me as a user and it still doesn't really reassure me as someone who might be affected by fires. I suspect the only measure that will work is canceling the Note 7 series and making it history as soon as possible, whether due to actual concern or just marketing savvy, or some combo of both.

This is a good idea. And, as other users have stated in other threads, completely renaming the phone and trying to distance themselves from this production line.

 

[w7sg]

Won't people be pi$$ed when they get their replacement phones & then a 60% download? LOL

 

[treedabl]

People aren't returning the phone because we have no clue of what to expect when/if we do. I called Verizon the other day and the guy on the phone said to bring my phone in and get a replacement. What? Sir, you don't know what you're talking about. It seems like nobody is on the same page. Now that the CPSC is involved, the communication has gotten even worse with reports of it taking months to get a replacement device. Nope. I think a lot of people are just willing to take their chances.