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And this since the nexus was announced to now is any different? How is it apple's fault they did not say anything sort of how verizon is doing the same thing? Sorry your points are moot since for one you do not know if apple changed it's schedule not to mention it was 3 months not 5 like you said. And nobody wanted it? They sold some 4 million plus in the first weekend. But yeah nobody wanted it...

It's completely different! Andy Rubin said quite awhile ago that we would see ICS in October/November. They met their promise. Before then, he revealed that the next Android version would be called ICS. There had been communication by Google to the public, whereas in the case of Apple, absolutely nothing of substance was said about iOS or the new iProduct.

It's also different in the sense that, we know absolutely everything about the Nexus and ICS, aside from the release date, and we knew it when they said we would know it by. We know what we are getting, we just don't know when we are going to get it. And even so, I'll still say that it has only been 5 weeks since the announcement, which is nothing in terms of tech, and if you were going to base the release of the Galaxy Nexus on when the Nexus S was available, we might actually get it sooner (Nexus S released on 12/16/10, we may see the GNex 12/8/11, and we knew of ICS/GNex in Oct, the Nexus S was revealed in November last year)

And yes, that is Apple's fault. They knew what everyone was expecting long before their unveiling. They knew that the phony news stories were on every major tech site, and cable news outlets were pretty much stating the iPhone 5 as a fact. They could have at least curbed expectations by leaking bits ahead of time, so as to not lead to the letdown. They could have made any type of statement saying any rumors were false. They did no such thing. They let the hype build up.

People bought it, yes. People will buy anything they put out because they have an extreme cult following. But you cannot dispute the amount of negativity people had after the press conference. Nobody was ultra excited over it. CNET, one of the biggest Apple cheerleading sites, was writing about how it was a disappointment. Hell, Apple's own stock fell afterwards, and it has NEVER done that the day of any announcement.

Would I have appreciated Verizon giving us a firm date in the first place? You're damn right. But it has been 5 weeks. Tell me, how is this any worse than when any company out of Taiwan shows off something at CES in January or MWC in February and says that Europe/Asia will see it in March...and then the US doesn't get it until July/August? That being said, I'm not entirely ready to crucify Verizon just yet, even though every other poster on this forum seems to be doing so. Yeah, it's probably going to be a month and a half of waiting from the time of announcement to when we see it here, but would you have preferred not knowing about it until now?

Based on last year's timing of the announcement of the Nexus S vs this year's timing of the GNex, Google actually gave us a bit of an early reveal if you think about it. Everyone should have been happy about that, and everyone should be absolutely thrilled that Verizon is finally getting a Nexus device, which will show up exactly when everyone expected, a year from when the last Nexus came out, but instead everybody is miserable and complaining. That is, until it actually comes out and everybody loves it with the LTE speeds, anyway. SMH.
 
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It's completely different! Andy Rubin said quite awhile ago that we would see ICS in October/November. They met their promise. Before then, he revealed that the next Android version would be called ICS. There had been communication by Google to the public, whereas in the case of Apple, absolutely nothing of substance was said about iOS or the new iProduct.

It's also different in the sense that, we know absolutely everything about the Nexus and ICS, aside from the release date, and we knew it when they said we would know it by. We know what we are getting, we just don't know when we are going to get it. And even so, I'll still say that it has only been 5 weeks since the announcement, which is nothing in terms of tech, and if you were going to base the release of the Galaxy Nexus on when the Nexus S was available, we might actually get it sooner (Nexus S released on 12/16/10, we may see the GNex 12/8/11, and we knew of ICS/GNex in Oct, the Nexus S was revealed in November last year)

And yes, that is Apple's fault. They knew what everyone was expecting long before their unveiling. They knew that the phony news stories were on every major tech site, and cable news outlets were pretty much stating the iPhone 5 as a fact. They could have at least curbed expectations by leaking bits ahead of time, so as to not lead to the letdown. They could have made any type of statement saying any rumors were false. They did no such thing. They let the hype build up.

People bought it, yes. People will buy anything they put out because they have an extreme cult following. But you cannot dispute the amount of negativity people had after the press conference. Nobody was ultra excited over it. CNET, one of the biggest Apple cheerleading sites, was writing about how it was a disappointment. Hell, Apple's own stock fell afterwards, and it has NEVER done that the day of any announcement.

Would I have appreciated Verizon giving us a firm date in the first place? You're damn right. But it has been 5 weeks. Tell me, how is this any worse than when any company out of Taiwan shows off something at CES in January or MWC in February and says that Europe/Asia will see it in March...and then the US doesn't get it until July/August? That being said, I'm not entirely ready to crucify Verizon just yet, even though every other poster on this forum seems to be doing so. Yeah, it's probably going to be a month and a half of waiting from the time of announcement to when we see it here, but would you have preferred not knowing about it until now?

Based on last year's timing of the announcement of the Nexus S vs this year's timing of the GNex, Google actually gave us a bit of an early reveal if you think about it. Everyone should have been happy about that, and everyone should be absolutely thrilled that Verizon is finally getting a Nexus device, which will show up exactly when everyone expected, a year from when the last Nexus came out, but instead everybody is miserable and complaining. That is, until it actually comes out and everybody loves it with the LTE speeds, anyway. SMH.

5 weeks in android is old. Especially with new androids coming out every other week.... You can shake your head all you want still doesn't change anything.....
 
Someone who actually remembers, what was the exact date Verizon confirmed they were getting it? When was the ICS event, October 21? Verizon said they were getting it, what, 2 weeks later? Just wondering if someone has the exact date
 
5 weeks in android is old. Especially with new androids coming out every other week.... You can shake your head all you want still doesn't change anything.....

The Galaxy S2 is how old? Announced in February, launched in May, not available in US until September? And people still adore that phone over here enough to buy it in droves. By your logic, it shouldn't have ever been released here because of how old it was when it got here.

I'll just have to agree to disagree with you on that one.
 
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Someone who actually remembers, what was the exact date Verizon confirmed they were getting it? When was the ICS event, October 21? Verizon said they were getting it, what, 2 weeks later? Just wondering if someone has the exact date

Nevermind, found it. Verizon was only a couple days later
 
Someone who actually remembers, what was the exact date Verizon confirmed they were getting it? When was the ICS event, October 21? Verizon said they were getting it, what, 2 weeks later? Just wondering if someone has the exact date

Verizon allowed Samsung to announce the deal shortly before the US launch of the SGII variants @ their unpacking event. That was months earlier. Verizon didn't chime in til Oct., even then the only reason they did was to save face. We really should feel fortunate we've even got this much out of them on the record, at this point.
 
The Galaxy S2 is how old? Announced in February, launched in May, not available in US until September? And people still adore that phone over here enough to buy it in droves. By your logic, it shouldn't have ever been released here because of how old it was when it got here.

I'll just have to agree to disagree with you on that one.

I never said anything about that and not buying it. I was just saying in android terms 5 weeks is old. But I will agree to disagree with you on that one..
 
If we did not know the Nexus was coming how many of us would have bought a Razr or Rezound? Crazy like a fox, Google/Verizon is.
 
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Irrelevant. The launch was described as a disaster, when in reality it is the most successful launch in history.

The bottom line is sales. Regardless of what product you talk about, the goal is to sell as many as possible. Apple succeeded in doing exactly that.

I will agree that had they launched a redesign they may have sold even more. But regardless, the launch was hardly a disaster.

Tim Cook could have walked out on staged, pulled the phone from his pocked and said "here it is guys" taken 20 minutes to hype Siri and tell us how much faster it was. Then ended the event and it STILL would have sold just as well as it did because of the hype that was already built up. The average iPhone buyer knows almost nothing about the device itself other than the fact that it is the new iPhone. And before anyone tells me that I don't know what I am talking about, I sell them so yes I do. I have this conversation with people almost every day.

The reason it sold so well is that Apple logo and the hype surrounding it. Do do you have any idea how many people think the thing is 4G for example? Heck something like 70% of iPhone 4 owners (even before the 4S) thought the device was 4G.
 
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Someone who actually remembers, what was the exact date Verizon confirmed they were getting it? When was the ICS event, October 21? Verizon said they were getting it, what, 2 weeks later? Just wondering if someone has the exact date

EDIT: Misread your post. It was like two days later they said that they were getting it "later this year."
 
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this anti-launch is disgraceful. Verizon could f**k up a cup of coffee. i hope this is the last time they get an "exclusive" on a Nexus phone.
 
Is it worth mentioning that this is just a phone with same basic functionality that existing phones have so it won't make you taller, richer, better looking or get you laid. Relax and enjoy the day until Nexus is released. BTW I'm interested in the phone as well but realize it won't really go anything different than I'm already able to right now.

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I have a solution for google phone manufacturer and carriers. Don't tell the masses what u are doing. This will solve the problem of every one crying about a phone launch. This no different or not even delayed or disgraceful. Apple has one phone one os and no lte to deal with. Also apple controls launches. So go cry to Google

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I have a solution for google phone manufacturer and carriers. Don't tell the masses what u are doing. This will solve the problem of every one crying about a phone launch. This no different or not even delayed or disgraceful. Apple has one phone one os and no lte to deal with. Also apple controls launches. So go cry to Google

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Apple also has more power over carriers than google does. Funny everyone comes saying everyone is crying about the launch yet you whine about the whiners just as much as they do...
 
Then go buy an iPhone.....

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Clearly if I wanted one I would have bought one.... sorry apple doesn't announce something and make you wait more than a week. But hey if you like waiting months after an announcement be my guest.
 
I'm bored. I can wait I have a good phone. I'm hear for the laughs
Apple also has more power over carriers than google does. Funny everyone comes saying everyone is crying about the launch yet you whine about the whiners just as much as they do...



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