Pro-Root v. Anti-Root: Some Thoughts

[jova33]

I actually talked about this in a recent hangout...basically, the language on the bootloader itself says "may" void the warranty. Legally, that's permissive. It's not mandatory. That's a huge legal distinction. Samsung/Verizon doesn't automatically void your warranty; they simply reserve the right to make it "voidable."

I still don't understand the "may" part lol

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[vivek615]

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I still don't understand the "may" part lol

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I think the bootloader message can't be more specific because for all they know your seller could issue any specific warranty.

Also, as it was explained to me, having an unlocked phone opens the door to a whole lot of possibilities... these companies don't want to have to support the potential issues that could come with all of the custom os options etc. (Imagine someone asking for Verizon to fix bugs on an experimental rom)

Once you've gone back to stock locked then they know your issues stem from an issue on the device who's hardware and software they support fully and they know how to troubleshoot etc so they don't have much reason to mind...

Basically they have the option to avoid having to support devices that are using software that could have issues they don't think they should be responsible for



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[jova33]

So I guess if you're having signal issues while on a custom ROM, they won't offer support, but if you revert to stock and relock and are still having the issue then they can offer support and possibly exchange for you.

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[2defmouze]

So I guess if you're having signal issues while on a custom ROM, they won't offer support, but if you revert to stock and relock and are still having the issue then they can offer support and possibly exchange for you.

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Yep

 

[cbbartley]

I'm rooted and unlocked, but I just don't like the root or don't complain attitude. These manufacturers, carriers, and Google itself were selling customers an experience, and I think that's the biggest complaint from people in these forums about the Nexus. No matter what those who have complaints say, the answer is root or shut up. Let's make this clear that I love the developer aspects of the Nexus, and a lot of people bought this phone for this very reason, but keep in mind that this phone was not pushed in advertisements as being a developers phone. It was pushed as Google's flagship phone manufactured by Samsung that offers a pure Google experience. Many people who had not even heard of this phone were talked into this phone by tech savvy people who put the "latest update" as a banner line for buying this smartphone.

A lot of people weren't expecting to have to root, hack, or any forum question and answer sessions when buying this phone. They wanted an up to date phone that didn't become irrelevant in a month like the Droid Bionic did. Not everyone is computer savvy like some of the people in these forums, and those the instructions for rooting and applying custom ROMs are simple, not everyone finds them so easy as you do. Also, a lot of these people come to these forums for help not because they were already apart of the forums, but because they were having problems with their phones and Verizon or the manufacturer was not addressing them with the "closed mouth" strategy. Though all is well in Nexus land, a lot of Nexus phones had issues out of the gate that rendered their phones kind of useless for a long stretch in which an update was not even available.

I myself, honestly don't care if someone is rooted or not. I feel as though its their choice. I'm not going to rag on them for not rooting or tell them to shut up if they are not going to root. Most of these people have valid complaints. Six months plus for a valid update when there were so many phones with issues was ridiculous. Being the only Nexus device not to have Jelly Bean for a while. Carrier interference with updates. Being sold a phone based on a consumer experience and then not following through with what was advertised. These are all valid complaints by consumers of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus whether you think that they should root or not.

It's just amazing how so many of these people are complaining and sharing their experiences with customer service about not receiving what these carriers, manufacturers, and Google sold them on, only to hear "shut up or root." Even if you are rooted, you should have complaints about the bad business path that these entities are engaging in. Generally, I don't even see the argument of "root vs not rooting" applying to most of these forum arguments. It's been more so "root vs why should I have to?", or "root vs I want Google/Verizon to do what was advertised." Its their phone, if they don't root that's their business. If they want to complain about Verizon or Google not doing as advertise, that's fine by me to. If they want to know what's taking so long on an update that fixes problems on their phone, especially connection problems, or updates OS functionality then that's great also because they were offered that as a selling point for buying the phone.Though I see rooting as a great alternative or work around for people who want updates without relying on carriers, I am really not feeling the "root or shut up" argument, because half the time its "root or shut up" and "even if you are rooted shut up complaining." Why let the carriers, manufacturers, and/ or Google off the hook?