But then we would have to find something else to argue about
Thanks for the link, interesting.
Removable battery a complete non issue if your considering a S4 Vs. One
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But then we would have to find something else to argue about
Thanks for the link, interesting.
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I thought we were having a good conversation last night. Look, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but most of these battery packs are smaller than an actual phone. You are saying you are fine with a spare battery being in pocket, and maybe two batteries, but the battery packs can be almost as small. I don't want to argue here because I honestly understand where you are coming from, it's just you seem to think these packs are going to be much more noticeable than the spare battery you already carry. Some carry two or more. That's all I'm getting at. I say "look, these things are pretty darn small and hold more juice with other benefits besides the extra capacity" in return I'm getting "no way so much bigger than my spare batteries no way I want to carry them around." I'm not saying you have to use them, I'm not saying you wanting the option to remove is wrong, what I am saying is that you are wrong in thinking an external battery pack is a huge departure in both size and function.
The original poster was merely trying to tell people that if they were concerned with the battery not being removable that they had found options that some might find preferable. Many posts later people who would prefer not to to follow his advice could not seem to help themselves but chime in with something along the lines of "not for me, can't do that, etc." Great, you don't like it, you don't have to tell everyone. But if you do those of us who do like it and have found it to be preferable will reply. Maybe in an effort to inform. Maybe just because people like to argue. But the point, one of many, is that if you don't like it you don't have to post about it. I don't like AMOLED screens. They honestly hurt my eyes. You will never see me going into a forum for a phone with one just to tell people that. Why would I? I understand the people who bought that phone probably either prefer or at least can deal with it so I'm happy they are happy. This is a thread about why, if you were deciding between the two flagships, you may not need to let the removable battery be a high priority.
Yeah I'm arguing, and yeah I know this is pretty subjective stuff here, but we didn't come to you, you came to us. People said, in a nutshell "no removable battery means I cannot use the phone!" I am simply trying to say "well have examined all your options? Here's what works for me and here's why I think more people might find it also works for them." I will now walk away. I suggest we all do. You don't like battery packs, I don't mind them. We'll probably never see eye to eye. Just take a moment before the next time you feel the need to inform someone of your opinion and how it won't be changed.
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We'll always have MicroSD vs Internal Storage...But then we would have to find something else to argue about
Please no.
"Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.? -courtesy of Albus Dumbledore, via my droid DNA.
"Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.? -courtesy of Albus Dumbledore, via my droid DNA.
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We were having a good conversation. I went to bed and woke up to a ridiculous post though about how I'm wearing the wrong clothes. Where did that come from? Telling me my wardrobe is wrong because I can't fit a spare battery bank and cable that I didn't want to carry in the first place in my pockets?
The way I see it, there are people defending their One. That's fine. But in the process of saying the One is great for them, they're telling me that since they don't need a removable battery, I don't need one either...they're saying I don't even need the option.
It's fine if you don't want to remove your battery, and I don't see people arguing that no one is fine with a non-removable battery (many people are). Yet I do see people arguing that everyone should be fine with a non-removable battery. I see those same people countering legitimate arguments with sometimes ridiculous counter-arguments.
I don't see the logic of arguing your defense of your purchase decision so vehemently to the point of imposing your own will on others. Heck you tried to preach to me and get me to use an external battery pack even though I don't even need one because I already CAN swap my battery. I tell you I don't want to carry it and you tell me my pants are too tight and I need to ditch them. Who are you to say that? Why do you insist that I plug my phone into my pocket and live my life that way?
Will you guys please, stop arguing about it? We've already discovered that some people like spare batteries and some like external battery packs. Bickering about the rest of it is pointless. Please.
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Speaking from expereince, one of the problem with external battery bricks that no one has mentioned is the stress on the charging port that having a cable wrapped around in a pocket or fanny pack or whatever brings. Unless you sit at a table somewhere and do nothing while your phone is charging, your cable is going to be coming in at a weird angle with some pressure on it.. I've had issues with this and ruined cables in the process. There's just no way to loop it far enough away to avoid this problem.
Definitely not an ideal solution. Like some others have mentioned, I wish that batteries would be a bit bigger. I don't need or even want a phone as thin as a razor blade. To me that is form over function. But energy source, size and weight seem to be an issue for a variety of products...even cars...so I don't expect this to be resolved anytime soon until there is some miraculous innovation in battery technology.
Definitely not an ideal solution. Like some others have mentioned, I wish that batteries would be a bit bigger. I don't need or even want a phone as thin as a razor blade. To me that is form over function. But energy source, size and weight seem to be an issue for a variety of products...even cars...so I don't expect this to be resolved anytime soon until there is some miraculous innovation in battery technology.
Agreed.
Also there's the fact that if you're on 1% you can swap the battery and immediately go to 100%. There is no charger that can put a sealed battery phone to 100%.
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what people don't realize is that the technology of lithium ion battery only has evolved 3 times and the CPU and other component has evolved hundreds of times even thousands of times
which = the lithium ion battery charge is very limited = most lithium ion after 400 charge they only holds 80 percent charge, for example apples iphone all there battery before even
there customers contract ends =2 years, they are constantly charging there phones the more they charge the worst it gets = hold charge less ,and that explains why apple only give 1 years warranty
on the battery , there engineers already has calculated this problem , lets just say you charge your phone once a day that means at 1 year you already charged 365 times which means about 1 month more your battery is only holding 80 percent charge and as more you charge the worse it gets ,and thats when people starts to buy these fat battery pack that makes the phone look like a big fat brick
i have so many friends and family that they can not cancel the contract ,and they are stuck for the next 6 month or even 10 month they beg me to replace the battery for them,some don't have apple care=$$$
they are stuck ,if you are a tech kind of a guy you maybe able to replace it your self , but you are risking damage the device during taking apart ,this is also why samsung , lg already knows about these problems,as for htc they are taking the route of apple ,which means if not user serviceable people are most likely to buy a new device which generate $$$$ but as for people who are on a buget
they are stuck , i like the way samsung ,and lg does with there phone its battery cover is very cheap to replace and it allows its customers to replace battery when it gets bad,so when the contract is
up the loyal customers will return to buy the next better (samsung or lg) phone,and replace the phone because its obsolete , not because they can no longer use the device***cough*** cough=TRAP!!! please take a look at the service ability of you phone !!!! HTC One Teardown - iFixit
this will explain why.
which = the lithium ion battery charge is very limited = most lithium ion after 400 charge they only holds 80 percent charge, for example apples iphone all there battery before even
there customers contract ends =2 years, they are constantly charging there phones the more they charge the worst it gets = hold charge less ,and that explains why apple only give 1 years warranty
on the battery , there engineers already has calculated this problem , lets just say you charge your phone once a day that means at 1 year you already charged 365 times which means about 1 month more your battery is only holding 80 percent charge and as more you charge the worse it gets ,and thats when people starts to buy these fat battery pack that makes the phone look like a big fat brick
i have so many friends and family that they can not cancel the contract ,and they are stuck for the next 6 month or even 10 month they beg me to replace the battery for them,some don't have apple care=$$$
they are stuck ,if you are a tech kind of a guy you maybe able to replace it your self , but you are risking damage the device during taking apart ,this is also why samsung , lg already knows about these problems,as for htc they are taking the route of apple ,which means if not user serviceable people are most likely to buy a new device which generate $$$$ but as for people who are on a buget
they are stuck , i like the way samsung ,and lg does with there phone its battery cover is very cheap to replace and it allows its customers to replace battery when it gets bad,so when the contract is
up the loyal customers will return to buy the next better (samsung or lg) phone,and replace the phone because its obsolete , not because they can no longer use the device***cough*** cough=TRAP!!! please take a look at the service ability of you phone !!!! HTC One Teardown - iFixit
this will explain why.
I snapped one of the connector pieces off of my S3 a week after I got it when I had to get a new sim card...I was miffed.
When you buy an extra battery, some come with a battery charger. Personally I have three batteries so one can be charging, while I use the other two. I just prefer to have a removeable battery so I can put one or two extra batteries in my pant's pockets when I go out.
In this case a battery pack would not be a good option for you. However, I've had the extra battery and the battery pack, currently, with my One. The issue I have with a removable battery is that typically when you need the juice, you're not near a charger, so you swap. Then, the new battery burns and you forget to charge the first battery..so now you're sitting there with 2 empty batteries. That was MY ISSUE with replacing batteries.Currently, I like the battery pack better as I just keep it plugged into the lighter in my car and it's always full. Once I'm ready to use it, I've got 2 full charges..not to mention I can charge my Bluetooth headset and headphones on a whim when needed! There are more advantages to a battery pack than just charging your phone...Hence, I will never buy another extra battery for a cell phone.
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Yeah see I don't forget to charge the second. I may not be able to put it on the charger immediately, but I don't forget. I need my phone for my business so keeping it alive is a priority. It's up there with putting on my glasses to drive and grabbing my keys to start the car. Second nature, if you will.
Having used Droid DNA, every iPhone lineup, Note 2, I will say it is a factor for me. My S4 stock battery have been replaced with Anker 5200mah battery. After using stock battery with having to constantly charge the battery I decided it was time for me to invest in a bigger one. And I'm sure most of you are aware that constant use of the battery leads to a short battery life. Eventually your battery will die for good, and who's to say when. Battery issue is one of the most common issues out there. Instead of having to replace your whole phone you could simply just pop out the battery and replace it with a new one, no hassle at all.
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A 3k mah batt, you can save money and not buy more batteries. Maybe keep a universal pack when you are on a longer trip
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