Removable battery a complete non issue if your considering a S4 Vs. One

[fz1jmp]

Only thing is with an external battery pack you have to connect it to the phone, let it sit and charge some , THEN go ahead and use it. At night (or during the day) you have to charge the battery pack

With extra batteries you simply pop another battery in it and you're right back to 100%. Can be done within 20 seconds and that includes peeling off the Otterbox (what I use), the back cover, changing the battery, and popping the cover back on.

For me, it's just so much more convenient to get the phone back to 100% within 20 seconds.

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Excellent point. That does make a lot of sense. I suppose I never really thought about it that much being I come from the iPhone world. But makes sense. Good feedback.

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[bclinger#IM]

Like a few others, I have never had a device that ran a full day on one charge. Calls, applications used, six to seven hours and feeding time is needed. I have had both replaceable and non devices sand have also had batteries that wore out. Replaceable batteries and external storage are mandatory for me. Those 2 needs were the reason I was unimpressed with the One.

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[Russ Smith]

Personally I'd rather have the razor thin sides and curved back, the battery needs to be deeply embedded under other hardware for that.

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[dchawk81]

Personally I'd rather have the razor thin sides and curved back, the battery needs to be deeply embedded under other hardware for that.

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For me this is something silly because razor thin sides and curved back don't make the phone turn on. These things are ridiculously thin already so another millimeter doesn't matter.

I much prefer a never-tethered existence. Docking is one thing but it's almost like a cordless phone in that regard.

With a sealed battery, I have no choice but to wait until I get some juice from the wall or my car. If I'm on the brink and have a meeting, I'm a bit screwed. With an extra battery I can simply pop it in and move on.

Then again, I don't live a convenient work all day, plug in at night when I'm asleep life either. Sometimes I work all night, sometimes all day. Sometimes I don't need my phone all day and other times I need it non-stop. It's basically my mobile office so I can't just stop everything to plug it into the wall. I need it to always be ready and I need to be able to take it with me.

 

[bigtnew]

Hey guys, is there any drawback to juicepacks do they have any long term effects on the battery? I have an anker 3200mah battery pack I used with my inspire but am inclined to get a 10000 now. Just wondering if there is any real difference between charging with a juicepack or a wall outlet with the stock charging apparatus?

 

[dchawk81]

Hey guys, is there any drawback to juicepacks do they have any long term effects on the battery? I have an anker 3200mah battery pack I used with my inspire but am inclined to get a 10000 now. Just wondering if there is any real difference between charging with a juicepack or a wall outlet with the stock charging apparatus?

They're basically a portable charger. There should be no more or less harm than plugging the phone into the wall.

 

[Russ Smith]

For me this is something silly because razor thin sides and curved back don't make the phone turn on. These things are ridiculously thin already so another millimeter doesn't matter.

I much prefer a never-tethered existence. Docking is one thing but it's almost like a cordless phone in that regard.

With a sealed battery, I have no choice but to wait until I get some juice from the wall or my car. If I'm on the brink and have a meeting, I'm a bit screwed. With an extra battery I can simply pop it in and move on.

Then again, I don't live a convenient work all day, plug in at night when I'm asleep life either. Sometimes I work all night, sometimes all day. Sometimes I don't need my phone all day and other times I need it non-stop. It's basically my mobile office so I can't just stop everything to plug it into the wall. I need it to always be ready and I need to be able to take it with me.

I edges make a difference to me, feels less than half the thickness because of the design, I just love holding this phone. My battery lasts long enough most days and I'm always near a charge point if I need it.

Design is one of the major selling points of this handset and I think HTC made the right choice. BEfore I knew about the One my aim was to buy the s4 I'm sure from what I read it will Be awesome, just this one's better for me personally.
I'm sure it fits your needs better with a removable battery but for the reasons I said above I'd rather it was non removable. What the op should have said is it makes it a non issue for most.

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[dchawk81]

I edges make a difference to me, feels less than half the thickness because of the design, I just love holding this phone. My battery lasts long enough most days and I'm always near a charge point if I need it.

Design is one of the major selling points of this handset and I think HTC made the right choice. BEfore I knew about the One my aim was to buy the s4 I'm sure from what I read it will Be awesome, just this one's better for me personally.
I'm sure it fits your needs better with a removable battery but for the reasons I said above I'd rather it was non removable. What the op should have said is it makes it a non issue for most.

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Yes a lot of people do put form over function. Many can get away with a sealed battery because they have predictable schedules and jobs that actually take them away from their phone rather than requiring more use of it. In those cases, a single battery will be just fine and they can consider a phone primarily for its appearance.

Having said that, I don't feel like my S3 is terrible to hold. However, I can't think of a single mobile phone that I've owned in the past 14 years that had such a bad design that I couldn't stand touching it. I'm pretty adaptable though.

 

[Cattails_r_Edible]

Every phone I've owned that had a removable battery started creaking real bad, the backs get looser and looser everytime you pull it off! My evo ltd and now my one last me all day, so I have no need to remove batteries now! And I carry a power stik if I'm going to be off the grid!

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[Russ Smith]

Yes a lot of people do put form over function. Many can get away with a sealed battery because they have predictable schedules and jobs that actually take them away from their phone rather than requiring more use of it. In those cases, a single battery will be just fine and they can consider a phone primarily for its appearance.

Having said that, I don't feel like my S3 is terrible to hold. However, I can't think of a single mobile phone that I've owned in the past 14 years that had such a bad design that I couldn't stand touching it. I'm pretty adaptable though.

Only form over function in that aspect. The phone functions very well (as the s4 probably does in a lot of ways too)

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[dchawk81]

Only form over function in that aspect. The phone functions very well (as the s4 probably does in a lot of ways too)

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I was speaking generally with that statement, but yes I was thinking only of those features....and a girl who asked me to recommend a camera then bought a different one because it was pink.

The HTC One is definitely not a bad phone. We should consider ourselves lucky to be at the point where these little things like chassis design are what we use to determine which phone we want.

 

[The Hustleman]

a girl who asked me to recommend a camera then bought a different one because it was pink.

Don't you just hate that?

At least pick it based on something that actually mattered

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[meyerweb#CB]

If the battery isn't an issue for you, that's fine, but don't post about things you have no real knowledge of. Many of us have S3s and change batteries frequently. The back holds up just fine. Just because you think it might become a problem some day in the future doesn't make it so. Also understand there are some here who are much heavier users than you seem to be. The Samsung approach lets you replace the stock battery with higher capacity ones as large as 7100 mA! No external packs to plug in, no need to repeatedly change batteries, just enough capacity for any use.

Whether they matter to you or not is one thing, but there ARE advantages to a removable, replaceable battery that other solutions don't provide.

I posted in another thread my thoughts about the S4 I played with yesterday, but I just wanted to add this; when the salesperson took off the back of the S4 to show me the battery, it seemed that when she pulled the back off and put it back on, the connecting pieces were starting to wear already and eventually will not hold the back on tight. Mind you it was a fairly new phone. Now I know its a demo.

Not only that, if I have a case on it I have to take the case off then pull the back off. In my infinite paranoia about keeping my phone pristine, I would always go for the external battery every time. My Anker Slim is almost as small as an extra battery and holds 2x's the charges. Bottom line, the "removable battery" argument against the One is a waste of thought, in my opinion of course.

If your considering both, you owe it to yourself to go and play with the S4, then decide. It was a great phone and if I didn't get the One, I would of certainly got the S4. But decide based on features and UI.

 

[gollum18]

I posted in another thread my thoughts about the S4 I played with yesterday, but I just wanted to add this; when the salesperson took off the back of the S4 to show me the battery, it seemed that when she pulled the back off and put it back on, the connecting pieces were starting to wear already and eventually will not hold the back on tight. Mind you it was a fairly new phone. Now I know its a demo.

Not only that, if I have a case on it I have to take the case off then pull the back off. In my infinite paranoia about keeping my phone pristine, I would always go for the external battery every time. My Anker Slim is almost as small as an extra battery and holds 2x's the charges. Bottom line, the "removable battery" argument against the One is a waste of thought, in my opinion of course.

If your considering both, you owe it to yourself to go and play with the S4, then decide. It was a great phone and if I didn't get the One, I would of certainly got the S4. But decide based on features and UI.

Yea I noticed this starting to happen on my s3 within 2 weeks of owning it, especially the corners. I think it only happens with the stock samsung cases however, because all of my other cases that snap onto the phone don't have any wear from me using them.

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[BigDinCA]

If the battery isn't an issue for you, that's fine, but don't post about things you have no real knowledge of. Many of us have S3s and change batteries frequently. The back holds up just fine. Just because you think it might become a problem some day in the future doesn't make it so. Also understand there are some here who are much heavier users than you seem to be. The Samsung approach lets you replace the stock battery with higher capacity ones as large as 7100 mA! No external packs to plug in, no need to repeatedly change batteries, just enough capacity for any use.

Whether they matter to you or not is one thing, but there ARE advantages to a removable, replaceable battery that other solutions don't provide.

So he shouldn't be allowed to post concerns regarding what he perceives to be a potential failure on a device he was looking at? The guy's been here less than a month and he's new to Android, having had the app-wool pulled over his eyes. He's not used to ripping the back off of his phone. Maybe others here should understand not everyone is jump-starting a tractor and powering their homes doomsday prepper-style with a phone battery so maybe, just maybe, a non-removable battery is going to be fine for lots of people. And having a battery pack will suffice for those times when they can't get through a full day and have no access to a charger. After all, the OP did throw in the blanket disclaimer of "in my opinion" at the end. How about having the same gusto for those who pop up in every thread with the word "battery" in it and proceed to tell us all that we're doing it wrong and don't know how to use our phones 100% otherwise we should only be getting 47 minutes of battery life on the One. You know, because if we claim to get good battery life on it then we're obviously light users, or liars, who should be looked down upon.

Though, to the OP, I know the feeling but I would say to you that in order to break that polycarbonate back you have to really, really, really want to. It's not the brittle part that plastic-haters want to make it out to be. Most of us have had a battery cover just like it, if not a dozen just like it, and rarely do they break. Every single time I pulled the back off my OG EVO I would say a little prayer. It must have worked because I had zero problems with it and it certainly wasn't as strong as the stuff manufacturers are using today.

 

[Jerry 0308]

I have bought a Note II for my mother about 6 months ago. Last week she called me that she is now sufferring for the battery can't be charged and asked what she should do with it. feeling kind of confusing, I asked my mother how about the second battery, was it having the problem as well? and surprisingly, it came with an answer; Is there a second battery for this phone? I said yes, I have checked from the box when I brought you the phone.

 

[The Hustleman]

So he shouldn't be allowed to post concerns regarding what he perceives to be a potential failure on a device he was looking at? The guy's been here less than a month and he's new to Android, having had the app-wool pulled over his eyes. He's not used to ripping the back off of his phone. Maybe others here should understand not everyone is jump-starting a tractor and powering their homes doomsday prepper-style with a phone battery so maybe, just maybe, a non-removable battery is going to be fine for lots of people. And having a battery pack will suffice for those times when they can't get through a full day and have no access to a charger. After all, the OP did throw in the blanket disclaimer of "in my opinion" at the end. How about having the same gusto for those who pop up in every thread with the word "battery" in it and proceed to tell us all that we're doing it wrong and don't know how to use our phones 100% otherwise we should only be getting 47 minutes of battery life on the One. You know, because if we claim to get good battery life on it then we're obviously light users, or liars, who should be looked down upon.

Though, to the OP, I know the feeling but I would say to you that in order to break that polycarbonate back you have to really, really, really want to. It's not the brittle part that plastic-haters want to make it out to be. Most of us have had a battery cover just like it, if not a dozen just like it, and rarely do they break. Every single time I pulled the back off my OG EVO I would say a little prayer. It must have worked because I had zero problems with it and it certainly wasn't as strong as the stuff manufacturers are using today.

I wish I could say the same, my evo battery cover was cheaply made and stopped connecting after not even a year.
My Galaxy s III has a much better build quality, it's still going strong


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[fz1jmp]

If the battery isn't an issue for you, that's fine, but don't post about things you have no real knowledge of. Many of us have S3s and change batteries frequently. The back holds up just fine. Just because you think it might become a problem some day in the future doesn't make it so. Also understand there are some here who are much heavier users than you seem to be. The Samsung approach lets you replace the stock battery with higher capacity ones as large as 7100 mA! No external packs to plug in, no need to repeatedly change batteries, just enough capacity for any use.

Whether they matter to you or not is one thing, but there ARE advantages to a removable, replaceable battery that other solutions don't provide.

Interesting response, throughly enjoyed it. It did take a bit longer to show up then I thought, the all knowing Android curmudgeon! Hello!!

My point was this; if your going to decide whether to buy one phone vs. another and you rank a removable battery towards the top you owe it to yourself to consider 2 pros of not possibly breaking the battery back and not having to take off the case. I did preface the whole comment with "in my opinion", which is exactly what it is.

So, all knowing Android king, if I never take the back off my phone I will probably never break it. I'm sure someone somewhere broke the back while pulling it off, kind of a bummer. Also, my son has a removable battery and the prongs that hold on the back snapped off. Of course you can buy a new back! I did not say "You MUST not doubt or question me. It was a thought I felt like sharing with the larger group here.

LOL and telling me "not to post about things I have no real knowledge of" seriously? Are you a child? Its a battery back. Did you go to school for battery backage? Perhaps you have a masters of battery? Its a phone. I understand that maybe your on it from the time you wake up to the time you go to sleep. You are right about the fact I'm not on it all day, I do have a life that I enjoy living.

Last comment, I didn't realize this prior to getting an Android, but seems like this is a much more closed minded and nasty group. Thanks for the welcome boys, appreciated. And your the AMBASSADOR!!! LOL, your kidding right? Definition of ambassador = A person who acts as a representative or promoter of a specified activity. Hahahahha, well I guess if Dennis Rodman can be "ambassador" to North Korea.

 

[fz1jmp]

So he shouldn't be allowed to post concerns regarding what he perceives to be a potential failure on a device he was looking at? The guy's been here less than a month and he's new to Android, having had the app-wool pulled over his eyes. He's not used to ripping the back off of his phone. Maybe others here should understand not everyone is jump-starting a tractor and powering their homes doomsday prepper-style with a phone battery so maybe, just maybe, a non-removable battery is going to be fine for lots of people. And having a battery pack will suffice for those times when they can't get through a full day and have no access to a charger. After all, the OP did throw in the blanket disclaimer of "in my opinion" at the end. How about having the same gusto for those who pop up in every thread with the word "battery" in it and proceed to tell us all that we're doing it wrong and don't know how to use our phones 100% otherwise we should only be getting 47 minutes of battery life on the One. You know, because if we claim to get good battery life on it then we're obviously light users, or liars, who should be looked down upon.

Though, to the OP, I know the feeling but I would say to you that in order to break that polycarbonate back you have to really, really, really want to. It's not the brittle part that plastic-haters want to make it out to be. Most of us have had a battery cover just like it, if not a dozen just like it, and rarely do they break. Every single time I pulled the back off my OG EVO I would say a little prayer. It must have worked because I had zero problems with it and it certainly wasn't as strong as the stuff manufacturers are using today.

Thanks for the informative and pleasant response, I see your point and could certainly see the positive about having extra batteries. I still have to take off my cover, for me, that hassle is greater then just using an external battery. Appreciated!!

 

[Paul627g]

Last comment, I didn't realize this prior to getting an Android, but seems like this is a much more closed minded and nasty group. Thanks for the welcome boys, appreciated.

I hope in the future if you continue to participate at Android Central and you will have a more enjoyable experience than some of what you may have received here.

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