Well I jumped ship from my pre and got the EVO4g Now after 29 days I am returning the phone to radioshack at lunch today. I tried several different roms and never found any that made me like the EVO as much as the PRE. So now I will try an iPhone in Oct if it actually does come out. Last night I installed the stock Rom back on and accepted the update from Sprint. I was surprised to see that it did not remove root access. I still show s-off. I don't think the guy at radio shack will check it, but there is that chance. Has anyone had a problem with a radioshack return when their phone is rooted?
Returning EVO
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Really has nothing to do with the phone but the operating system, Android just does not work as well as webos for what I do with a phone. As far as the hardware, the EVO is a good phone, although the camera / camcorder on it are not very good.
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I can understand as the EVO is not for everyone. The camera is actually good on the EVO. It takes some practice and tinkering with settings but you can get some good shots. The camcorder requires a higher class SD card. The stock SD card sucks. Even then, the camcorder isn't as good as it should be. As far as the iphone 5, it's playing catch up to the android devices already out.
The bigest problem I had was with the camcorder, not the camera. I was excited to have a phone with qik again. I had used qik a lot with my HTC diamond and kept using it while I had my pre over wifi. The quality of videos uploaded to qik from the EVO were never as good as from my diamond, no matter what settings I used. My mom loves logging into qik and watching her grandkids. She even asked what was wrong with the picture when I started using the EVO. I am hopping ios5 has true multitasking. I would try a Windows phone7 but Sprint only offers 1 and a landscape slider is not for me.
Honestly the best mobile OS in my opinion was WebOS, in the beggining it started as a simple os covering the basic needs of a smart phone but in time people have been able to enhance them to near perfection to be able to cover almost every need and want possible of a palm phone user. In order of preference id say WebOS, iOS, and lastly, Android OS.
I don't know if iOs will be better than android, but the things I read about iOS5 sound pretty good. Course it will be a closed point if sprint doesn't get the iphone. The guy at radioshack was surprised to see me returning my evo, he said that was the first evo returned to his store
Ill honestly wait till the 4G towers are set in motion down here in Puerto Rico and see if I can put this phone to full potential. (Possibly). The only reason why I had to get rid of my pr? because of the ghost touch.
I'm an ex webOs user but webos is NOT superior to Android. Cards was a nice concept but it's annoying to some degree. Most applications couldn't run in the background without having a card open. I don't know if things have changed but you couldn't run Pandora without having the card open. Grooveshark was able to run as a notification in the background but that was the only app that was able to do that, that I had experience with.
I think you should check out Wave Launcher, you can set up a wave to launch specific apps from within any app or you can set it up to launch recently launced apps. So, for instance, if you're listening to Pandora and you're browsing the web you just swipe up (gesture) on the wave overlay that's hidden just like the pre was and choose Pandora and switch the song and do the same thing to switch back to the browser.
Another nice thing that I like is that while playing a game I don't have to close the game, I can just exit out and so long as Android doesn't need to kill it to free up memory for something else I can continue right where I was several hours later without having to have the actual game running and start right where I left off. You couldn't do that with webos, you'd have to keep the game running (as a card) or close it out entirely.
*edit* also, annoying was the homescreen in webos. You couldn't do a freaking thing to it. do they still have no api's for the camera, microphone? My daughter plays around with my Pre as an mp3 player and it STILL doesn't have adobe flash. I know they've said it wont' get it now but seriously that's one of the biggest reasons I got it in the first place.
I think you should check out Wave Launcher, you can set up a wave to launch specific apps from within any app or you can set it up to launch recently launced apps. So, for instance, if you're listening to Pandora and you're browsing the web you just swipe up (gesture) on the wave overlay that's hidden just like the pre was and choose Pandora and switch the song and do the same thing to switch back to the browser.
Another nice thing that I like is that while playing a game I don't have to close the game, I can just exit out and so long as Android doesn't need to kill it to free up memory for something else I can continue right where I was several hours later without having to have the actual game running and start right where I left off. You couldn't do that with webos, you'd have to keep the game running (as a card) or close it out entirely.
*edit* also, annoying was the homescreen in webos. You couldn't do a freaking thing to it. do they still have no api's for the camera, microphone? My daughter plays around with my Pre as an mp3 player and it STILL doesn't have adobe flash. I know they've said it wont' get it now but seriously that's one of the biggest reasons I got it in the first place.
I always did believe that WebOS would never get flash lol, not like the processor would handle it even OC'd to 1.2 GHz
the os itself was buggy too, it wasn't just relegated to the software. Doing basic things such as using the camera was a frustrating chore. that's something "dumb" phones were able to do years ago without any trouble. And forget about the GPS issues...I loved my Pre when I first got it but I didn't even have it a full year before I jumped ship. Palm failed to deliver over and over and over again.
This is one of the reasons the Pre and webos fail. - YouTube
^^^JUNK
This is one of the reasons the Pre and webos fail. - YouTube
^^^JUNK
OP, I would try another phone. I'm not fond on the EVO 4g either, I want to switch to the Nexus S.
As for ROMs, I'm now using deck rom. It has widget buttons you can put in the status bar that let you control the music (similar to how a music app had with its own notification in webOS) without having to resort to a solution like Wave Launcher. Wave Launcher is a nice concept, but because the Android phones lack a dedicated gesture area, you're forced to pick a part of the screen to trigger Wave Launcher from and I couldn't find an area that was convenient for my smaller hands and out of the way of an app's button or keyboard. It also has quick power widgets (similar to the device menu and its advanced versions on webOS) in the status bar that you can access without having to go back to Home and using a home widget or going into the maze of the Settings app.
The Synergy ROM also has a nice feature that puts your recent apps in the status bar, so you don't have to hold the stupid home button. Or if you don't mind holding the home button, you can define the number of apps in the recent apps list (or let you pick something else entirely) using the deck ROM. I believe the ROM is based on cyanogenmod, so that one probably has a lot of the same features. Including allowing you to swipe away single notifications instead of leaving them there until you're ready to clear them all.
There's also Gmail Notifier that allows you to get gmail notifications that are actually worth a damn and tell you the subject and sender like on webOS instead of just saying New Email. Or the Gmail Popup app. Unfortunately the new Gmail update broke these apps, so you have to downgrade your Gmail if you want to use them (no problem for me because I don't need the per label notification support in the new gmail).
Did you try any new launchers? I loathe the Sense launcher, especially since it liked to REBOOT every four apps, but GO Launcher is great. I really like the customizable gestures, I've set the swipe down one to bring down the notifications bar so I don't have to reach all the way up there.
Android is really all over the place compared to webOS. It has its advantages, but it has some disadvantages too (had the most epic nightmare trying to do navigation and music over bluetooth last week). Since having Android, I've come to really appreciate the workflow I got on my Pre+ which makes it easier to find real alternatives to webOS features because I actually like webOS, just left it because it's put much over, instead of just downplaying some of the annoying things on Android and offering subpar alternatives like some posts from ex-webos users or people who have never used webOS at all.
Eventually, you're going to have to move on so you should really just bite the bullet and try to get used to it instead of just letting your upgrade languish unless you really want to wait it out until October for the fruit phone.
As for ROMs, I'm now using deck rom. It has widget buttons you can put in the status bar that let you control the music (similar to how a music app had with its own notification in webOS) without having to resort to a solution like Wave Launcher. Wave Launcher is a nice concept, but because the Android phones lack a dedicated gesture area, you're forced to pick a part of the screen to trigger Wave Launcher from and I couldn't find an area that was convenient for my smaller hands and out of the way of an app's button or keyboard. It also has quick power widgets (similar to the device menu and its advanced versions on webOS) in the status bar that you can access without having to go back to Home and using a home widget or going into the maze of the Settings app.
The Synergy ROM also has a nice feature that puts your recent apps in the status bar, so you don't have to hold the stupid home button. Or if you don't mind holding the home button, you can define the number of apps in the recent apps list (or let you pick something else entirely) using the deck ROM. I believe the ROM is based on cyanogenmod, so that one probably has a lot of the same features. Including allowing you to swipe away single notifications instead of leaving them there until you're ready to clear them all.
There's also Gmail Notifier that allows you to get gmail notifications that are actually worth a damn and tell you the subject and sender like on webOS instead of just saying New Email. Or the Gmail Popup app. Unfortunately the new Gmail update broke these apps, so you have to downgrade your Gmail if you want to use them (no problem for me because I don't need the per label notification support in the new gmail).
Did you try any new launchers? I loathe the Sense launcher, especially since it liked to REBOOT every four apps, but GO Launcher is great. I really like the customizable gestures, I've set the swipe down one to bring down the notifications bar so I don't have to reach all the way up there.
Android is really all over the place compared to webOS. It has its advantages, but it has some disadvantages too (had the most epic nightmare trying to do navigation and music over bluetooth last week). Since having Android, I've come to really appreciate the workflow I got on my Pre+ which makes it easier to find real alternatives to webOS features because I actually like webOS, just left it because it's put much over, instead of just downplaying some of the annoying things on Android and offering subpar alternatives like some posts from ex-webos users or people who have never used webOS at all.
Eventually, you're going to have to move on so you should really just bite the bullet and try to get used to it instead of just letting your upgrade languish unless you really want to wait it out until October for the fruit phone.
s-off is NOT root. s-off is s-off and will allow you to flash a ROM. Root is root and allows you to do all kinds of other stuff deep inside the phone. Have fun with your pre.
Remember though, S-Off on a evo is just the same as a developer mode on a pr?. Rooted htc is the same as a pre with preware
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