Rooting phone

[eric002]

Hi everyone so I'm an Android expert with everything the only question about the Nexus 6 I have ever owned the first Nexus I've ever owned, is if you root it will that stop OTA updates from the carrier for Android M eccetera?thanks much appreciated.

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[VW Maverick]

Correct.
Rooting a device takes it "off the grid" and the OTA updates don't see it.
But the device can be returned to stock easily to get the update when released and then you can re-root it.

Mav.

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[eric002]

Correct.
Rooting a device takes it "off the grid" and the OTA updates don't see it.
But the device can be returned to stock easily to get the update when released and then you can re-root it.

Mav.

Sent from the future on my Sprint Nexus 6.

Yes, thank you so much. That's what I figured. The only reason I wouldn't with the Nexus 6 with the double tap to wake feature, but its not so consistent and doesn't always work correctly. The ambient display works great on the phone I think. I love my phone.

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[NewAge]

Correct.
Rooting a device takes it "off the grid" and the OTA updates don't see it.
But the device can be returned to stock easily to get the update when released and then you can re-root it.

Mav.

Sent from the future on my Sprint Nexus 6.

Sadly my phone is rooted but is still "seen" by the upgrade. I have the notification constantly to upgrade to 5.1. Of course with TWRP installed the upgrade process fails, so for the time being I'm stuck on 5.1.

 

[eric002]

Sadly my phone is rooted but is still "seen" by the upgrade. I have the notification constantly to upgrade to 5.1. Of course with TWRP installed the upgrade process fails, so for the time being I'm stuck on 5.1.

That's pretty interesting actually.

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[NewAge]

That's pretty interesting actually.

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Thats the way its always been for every phone I've owned. Rooting doesn't stop the update servers from seeing what version Android you're running. But it does cause the upgrade to SOMETIMES fail. There are instances where users have been able to upgrade versions of Android while being rooted. and instances of the upgrade resulting in a BRICK.

 

[eric002]

Thats the way its always been for every phone I've owned. Rooting doesn't stop the update servers from seeing what version Android you're running. But it does cause the upgrade to SOMETIMES fail. There are instances where users have been able to upgrade versions of Android while being rooted. and instances of the upgrade resulting in a BRICK.

Oh wow, yeah obviously that's not good. Bricking is never fun no matter. I am trying to think if why I'd root. Like I said, I love the ambient display, I used to own the 2nd gen moto x and didn't think it would work much better on this phone, but sure enough, everything definitely does work a lot better regardless of what it is.

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[LeoRex]

its a Nexus. Easiest phone to fool around with the software you'll find. Losing the ability to go with an OTA is moot since all you need to do is download the factory image and do it yourself (or use a toolkit like Wugfresh's Nexus Root Toolkit)

 

[eric002]

its a Nexus. Easiest phone to fool around with the software you'll find. Losing the ability to go with an OTA is moot since all you need to do is download the factory image and do it yourself (or use a toolkit like Wugfresh's Nexus Root Toolkit)

Yeah I have never owned a Nexus before so I'm sorry but bear with me lol I'm used to going through hell just to root a phone to be honest with you how realistically easy is it to root the Nexus?

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[NewAge]

Yeah I have never owned a Nexus before so I'm sorry but bear with me lol I'm used to going through hell just to root a phone to be honest with you how realistically easy is it to root the Nexus?

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It depends on where you are in the root process. If you have a Linux Distro with fastboot and adb its as simple as a command or two. If not if could be like learning latin. I started by googling "Nexus 6 root"

 

[eric002]

It depends on where you are in the root process. If you have a Linux Distro with fastboot and adb its as simple as a command or two. If not if could be like learning latin. I started by googling "Nexus 6 root"

Well I was thinking of that easy to root toolkit...

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[LeoRex]

how realistically easy is it to root the Nexus?

Once your computer is set up to do so, it's pretty simple. If you use that Toolkit, very easy.

 

[eric002]

Once your computer is set up to do so, it's pretty simple. If you use that Toolkit, very easy.

Yeah I was thinking of that way. Do you have to hard reset your phone in order to do it though? That's something that would probably prevent me from reporting it, because I don't want to start all over from scratch again loll

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[LeoRex]

Yeah I was thinking of that way. Do you have to hard reset your phone in order to do it though? That's something that would probably prevent me from reporting it, because I don't want to start all over from scratch again loll

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Well, you will have to wipe the phone to unlock, but you can do an external backup, unlock, then reload the data back on. Then root the phone and install a custom recovery.

Sounds complicated? Well, doing it manually isn't hard, but the first time can be tricky since, well, you don't know what you are doing yet. That Toolkit makes it much easier... Click click click... Done

Either way, I would read a little bit so you understand the process a bit. It'll demystify things a lot and not feel so crazy. There is a ton of info over in the Nexus 6 forums at the XDA Developers site... Go check it out.

 

[eric002]

Well, you will have to wipe the phone to unlock, but you can do an external backup, unlock, then reload the data back on. Then root the phone and install a custom recovery.

Sounds complicated? Well, doing it manually isn't hard, but the first time can be tricky since, well, you don't know what you are doing yet. That Toolkit makes it much easier... Click click click... Done

Either way, I would read a little bit so you understand the process a bit. It'll demystify things a lot and not feel so crazy. There is a ton of info over in the Nexus 6 forums at the XDA Developers site... Go check it out.

No no no I got you.. Not the first time I rooted I just need a valid reason to do it but I'll consider it thanks for the info I appreciate it.

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[LeoRex]

No no no I got you.. Not the first time I rooted I just need a valid reason to do it but I'll consider it thanks for the info I appreciate it.

OH! Sorry. Well, the primary reason I root my phone is so I can system tool that access system level software. I keep a working backup set made by Titanium Backup, and without root it is somewhat crippled. The TB backups allow me to switch around between any ROMs I want without losing most of my config. I can't do very much with system software (like saved WiFi configs, homescreen layout, etc).

Second, battery monitor tools like GSAM require system access to properly report on power usage. The Nexus 6 has a lot better battery performance than prior phones I've had, so its not as critical, but it is good to have a good idea what is going on.

Third... in order to access the system files, file managers also need root access. Same goes for tools like kernel managers, etc. Without root access, there's not much you can do to modify their settings.

So root and loading a custom recovery kind of go hand in hand.... gives me full admin access rights to do whatever I need. Even if you don't fuss with kernels or system level backups, etc, I would say that between Titanium Backup (requires root) and nandroid backups (requires custom recovery).... Both are big 'must haves' for me.

 

[eric002]

OH! Sorry. Well, the primary reason I root my phone is so I can system tool that access system level software. I keep a working backup set made by Titanium Backup, and without root it is somewhat crippled. The TB backups allow me to switch around between any ROMs I want without losing most of my config. I can't do very much with system software (like saved WiFi configs, homescreen layout, etc).

Second, battery monitor tools like GSAM require system access to properly report on power usage. The Nexus 6 has a lot better battery performance than prior phones I've had, so its not as critical, but it is good to have a good idea what is going on.

Third... in order to access the system files, file managers also need root access. Same goes for tools like kernel managers, etc. Without root access, there's not much you can do to modify their settings.

So root and loading a custom recovery kind of go hand in hand.... gives me full admin access rights to do whatever I need. Even if you don't fuss with kernels or system level backups, etc, I would say that between Titanium Backup (requires root) and nandroid backups (requires custom recovery).... Both are big 'must haves' for me.

Yeah I gotcha. I'm always thinking about it, I just don't necessarily need any if those apps just yet, that's the thing.

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[LeoRex]

Yeah I gotcha. I'm always thinking about it, I just don't necessarily need any if those apps just yet, that's the thing.

Then don't worry about it. There's no reason to do something that you don't need.... I know you'll hear a lot of people say "UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER!" out of the box as it completely wipes your phone during the process. But even there, you can do a full backup of your phone before unlocking (easy to do as well) and then reload the data back once you are unlocked. Sure, its quicker to do when the phone is clean, but a little bit of time is no big deal.

There's no easier device to work on than a Nexus. Nothing is hidden away behind some big UI like Kies, or some strange tool like Odin or the LG Flash Tool. Google's factory image comes with straightforward instructions and the images are simple partition dumps that load via a comman line script that you can look at and see exactly what is going on.

I would suggest you download and install the Nexus Root Toolkit, though. Even if you don't use it right away, it is a great tool that is kind of a one-stop shop for all things Nexus. Backing up data, restoring to stock, rooting, unlocking, etc. It does a ton, and it even does a good job of explaining what it does and, just as important, WHY it does it.

 

[eric002]

Then don't worry about it. There's no reason to do something that you don't need.... I know you'll hear a lot of people say "UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER!" out of the box as it completely wipes your phone during the process. But even there, you can do a full backup of your phone before unlocking (easy to do as well) and then reload the data back once you are unlocked. Sure, its quicker to do when the phone is clean, but a little bit of time is no big deal.

There's no easier device to work on than a Nexus. Nothing is hidden away behind some big UI like Kies, or some strange tool like Odin or the LG Flash Tool. Google's factory image comes with straightforward instructions and the images are simple partition dumps that load via a comman line script that you can look at and see exactly what is going on.

I would suggest you download and install the Nexus Root Toolkit, though. Even if you don't use it right away, it is a great tool that is kind of a one-stop shop for all things Nexus. Backing up data, restoring to stock, rooting, unlocking, etc. It does a ton, and it even does a good job of explaining what it does and, just as important, WHY it does it.

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Oh yes absolutely. I would download the Nexus toolkit for root. I know how it works unless I have a good reason I wouldn't root,but I was curious about the process even though I've done it a thousand times thanks for helping in general though. Appreciate it.

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[danielson2047]

Unlock, flash twrp recovery, flash SU zip. Bam! Nexus the way it was intended.

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