Should I do the Note 3, another phablet, or go smaller?

[Vsweety]

The comments I was replying to, we're talking about phones.

What you're talking about is another topic all together, thumb typing vs. ten fingers.

What I was talking about was a response to a previous post.

There are some full virtual 10 1 keyboards that do a fine job.

That's your personal taste and opinion.
"Full virtual 10.1 keyboards" are smaller than fullsized physical keyboards. 'Cramped' would be my adjective of choice. They also don't have any kind of tactile reference – you can't feel them, or the relative position of/between keys – except for the virtual (but not real) 'tactile feedback' – vibration – of touched keys on some devices. Which is a rather pathetic substitute. Virtual keyboards require much more concentration on both the keyboard and the display screen, especially for longer texts, than physical keyboards do. Consequently virtual keyboards are much more tiring and not suitable to e.g. a continuous couple of hours of work. Which isn't a problem on physical keyboards.

Im a software developer by trait

I hope you meant to say you are "a software developer by traDE".

 

[_X_]

What I was talking about was a response to a previous post.

Ah okay you threw me off since you were quoting me.

That's your personal taste and opinion.
"Full virtual 10.1 keyboards" are smaller than fullsized physical keyboards. 'Cramped' would be my adjective of choice.

Yeah I wasn't talking about those keyboards they're terrible I was referring to full size virtual keyboards. The IR keyboard as an example. There are other virtual keyboard as well.

They also don't have any kind of tactile reference ? you can't feel them, or the relative position of/between keys ? except for the virtual (but not real) 'tactile feedback' ? vibration ? of touched keys on some devices. Which is a rather pathetic substitute.

Even though I strongly disagree with you I know where you're coming from. A lot of folks need tactile feedback because of old factory senses, habits are hard to break. Most folks learned on physical keyboards so virtual keyboards are a hard transition. I'm still faster on a physical keyboard but the gap has changed drastically for me I can type almost as fast on a phone vs. my pc. And my phone isn't even a full size keyboard.

Virtual keyboards require much more concentration on both the keyboard and the display screen, especially for longer texts, than physical keyboards do. Consequently virtual keyboards are much more tiring and not suitable to e.g. a continuous couple of hours of work. Which isn't a problem on physical keyboards.

That just tells me you haven't made the transition. I felt much like you until one day my son wrote a paper on his ipod and it was fast enough to be considered productive. After that I realized the real limitations was my stubbornness to learn how to type on a virtual keyboard.

I hope you meant to say you are "a software developer by traDE".

No I meant trait it's an industry joke. Well there's a saying that explains it.

"There are 10 types of people, those that get software and those that don't. "

=X=

 

[Vsweety]

Yeah I wasn't talking about those keyboards they're terrible I was referring to full size virtual keyboards. The IR keyboard as an example. There are other virtual keyboard as well.

Niches.

Even though I strongly disagree with you I know where you're coming from. A lot of folks need tactile feedback because of old factory senses, habits are hard to break.

Evolution can come in spurts but the one you're painting hasn't happened yet. We've still got hands which we like to use to touch and feel with.
And we haven't got telekinesis developed very effectively yet. Of course we're halfway on the road to typing without touching: dictation. I use it for a lot of my SMS and IM messages. But somehow writing/typing text oneself has a 5.000 year old comfortable feeling to it. 150 years of telephony didn't stop us communicating in writing at all, did it? Those are indeed habits I have yet to see break. Don't hold your breath.

Most folks learned on physical keyboards so virtual keyboards are a hard transition.

An impossible transition, as virtual keyboards are virtually non-existent in the real world out there.

I'm still faster on a physical keyboard but the gap has changed drastically for me I can type almost as fast on a phone vs. my pc. And my phone isn't even a full size keyboard.

That just tells me you haven't made the transition.

Correct: me, and 7 billion other people...
And history tells me I won't be around long enough to see that change in any significant way.

I felt much like you until one day my son wrote a paper on his ipod and it was fast enough to be considered productive. After that I realized the real limitations was my stubbornness to learn how to type on a virtual keyboard.

Stuff is not always your fault, you know.

No I meant trait it's an industry joke. Well there's a saying that explains it.

"There are 10 types of people, those that get software and those that don't. "

Ah, OK, then I won't have to feel guilty next time I feel the urge to debit an inside joke of the Chinchilla Breeder's Association.

 

[Zacharyw70]

One Plus One looks like a great phone, it'll be interesting to see what the competition does when it shakes up the market.
Interested in how Google will react with the Nexus 5, (And the Nexus 6 later on) and also how Motorola would react since they've been offering the Moto X pretty cheap off-contract.

 

[kigmatzomat]

I disagree, heck I'll even go so far as to say they are far better.

I think what makes modern OSK better (or appear to be better) than old physical keyboards is the predictive software. There have been very few physical keyboards tied to decent predictive software. If you gave me a device with the Pre3 keyboard and the same prediction logic as swype I could probably up to 60wpm. I was doing 40wpm on my pre2 and I'm sure good predictions would give me a 50% speed boost.

However I will acknowledge that the physical constraints of adding a viable keyboard to a device eats up way too much volume these days given how good the OSKs have become.