Slowest phone launch in awhile?

[I don't have an iphone]

I think this has been a total botched job. First, the delay in the announcement and then the annoucement with no release date, or carrier announced. Does it get any worse than this?:'( Something is definately going on!

 

[Adrynalyne]

I think this has been a total botched job. First, the delay in the announcement and then the annoucement with no release date, or carrier announced. Does it get any worse than this?:'( Something is definately going on!

 

[anon(512898)]

i posted a variation of this in another forum -

if the dicks at VZW don't want the Nexus to compete with their new Droids etc.and they are sandbagging it - then they should not get the phone first. you don't give the exclusive to the dicks at VZW who are going to sabotage the process. WTF is Google thinking?

They are not "sandbagging" the release and they are not worried about lost sales with the razr, they are worried about diluting the market impact of each release. Think about it, when a high profile phone is released there is a high level of excitement surrounding it for a couple of weeks, then that excitement dies off. If verizon releases 3 highly anticipated devices in a short time span there will be a high level of excitement for a bit, but then verizon has no more high profile launches for the rest of the year and the excitement will wear off. If they space out the releases, they can keep a continually high level of excitement for the rest of the holiday season. It sucks for those of us who want the phone, as well as the manufacturers that want as much of the holiday season as possible, but it is great for verizon and when you release on verizon you go by their terms.

 

[PJnc284]

zomg. Verizon is delaying the delay. Side note, I wonder if they actually planned on announcing it when they did or did it more as damage control with everyone whining and crying.

 

[Gekko]

They are not "sandbagging" the release and they are not worried about lost sales with the razr, they are worried about diluting the market impact of each release. Think about it, when a high profile phone is released there is a high level of excitement surrounding it for a couple of weeks, then that excitement dies off. If verizon releases 3 highly anticipated devices in a short time span there will be a high level of excitement for a bit, but then verizon has no more high profile launches for the rest of the year and the excitement will wear off. If they space out the releases, they can keep a continually high level of excitement for the rest of the holiday season. It sucks for those of us who want the phone, as well as the manufacturers that want as much of the holiday season as possible, but it is great for verizon and when you release on verizon you go by their terms.

hence my confusion as to why Google would give an exclusive to Verizon. Verizon's problems are not mine and i could give a rat's ass about what's in their best interest. i know why Verizon is doing what they are doing - you don't need to tell me that - they are doing what they are doing because they think it's in THEIR best interest and what's to THEIR advantage. what puzzles me is why Google think it's in GOOGLE's best interest and advantage to launch the Nexus in this way.

 

[Adrynalyne]

Everybody got upset when Tmo got Nexus exclusivity.

Now the shoe belongs to another foot and they are upset at Verizon.


The more things change, the more they stay the same.


PS- Exclusivity (if its even real) comes at a cost. That means Verizon paid for it. So Google's benefit? MONEY!

 

[crzycrkr]

If they phone comes out after Thanksgiving (which looks like the best guess right now) wouldn't you consider this a slow launch? That's almost a month and a half after the original press event that was delayed a week.

No, not at all. If it comes out in January or February, then yeah. The Palm phones had slow launches. A couple weeks or a month? That's not slow. Verizon has other phones to try to sell as well. As I've said in the other Nexus threads, other than the people on these forums, very few follow this stuff, and very few know anything other than what the commercials and carriers tell them. 95% of customers have no clue. Just because we want it 5 months ago doesn't mean its a slow launch.

 

[revickulous2001]

Everybody got upset when Tmo got Nexus exclusivity.

Now the shoe belongs to another foot and they are upset at Verizon.


The more things change, the more they stay the same.


PS- Exclusivity (if its even real) comes at a cost. That means Verizon paid for it. So Google's benefit? MONEY!

Very true about Verizon paying for the exclusivity. If everybody will remember, Verizon made an announcement a couple of days after announcing they would not be getting the Galaxy S II. They claimed that they didn't believe the Galaxy S II would be competitive with the iPhone 5 when it releases. So they chose to save their money and instead invest it towards are deal with Google to get exclusive rights to the Nexus Prime (as it was still being called then).

Of course, things changed dramatically during that time frame. Apple didn't release an iPhone 5. They released the iPhone 4s. The hardware on the iPhone 4s was my no means impressive as they thought it would be. In fact, the hardware doesn't even compete with the Galaxy S II. It also seems that the hardware on the Nexus Prime isn't as impressive as Verizon was anticipating. At that point in time, pretty much everybody was anticipating the hardware would make the Nexus Prime a "superphone" for its release time.

I do wonder a bit if Verizon feels a bit of "bad blood" over this whole fiasco. They work very closely with Google, Samsung, and Apple and yet they didn't seem to have any clue what the real story was a few months ago. And clearly, that led them into some business decisions that might not have been made the same if they had more information.

I would like to know just how much money they had to pay Google for a month or so worth of exclusivity. It will also be interesting to see if the Galaxy Nexus outsells the Razr. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the casual user chooses the Razr over the Galaxy Nexus. If Verizon did spend what they assume to be too much money on this deal, that could explain why the Nexus seems to be getting the back-seat ride as opposed to the Razr and Rezound.

 

[nemov]

I would like to know just how much money they had to pay Google for a month or so worth of exclusivity. It will also be interesting to see if the Galaxy Nexus outsells the Razr. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the casual user chooses the Razr over the Galaxy Nexus. If Verizon did spend what they assume to be too much money on this deal, that could explain why the Nexus seems to be getting the back-seat ride as opposed to the Razr and Rezound.

We've covered this before, but I'm not sure any money had to be exchanged. Samsung didn't get their flagship device on Verizon. The Galaxy Nexus is basically the GS2 for Verizon by default. Samsung will not be in a hurry to sell the GN on other carriers. Samsung is getting read to release a LTE GS2 on AT&T. I don't think they're in hurry to compete against their flagship phone.

 

[Adrynalyne]

Exclusivity always involves money between companies.

Money or favors.

 

[whartpence]

I am coming from webOS so this launch doesn't seem slow to me at all. I am just as excited as everyone else, and yes, I want the phone now too but waiting a month or so won't kill any of us. This is going to be a great phone. Don't give up and get some other phone that you don't really want. Show the manufacturers and carriers how much we want phones that only run pure Android.

I also wish it would launch on Verizon, AT&T, TMo, etc. at the same time or close to it. I'm on Verizon so it's not a problem for me this time, but next time it may not work out that way...

 

[Gekko]

i have a theory - Google doesn't want to push and market the G-Nex too hard. why? because they don't want to alienate and sabotage their hardware partners. they don't want to cannibalize all of the other hordes of currently selling Google phones out there. so Google WANTS a soft, ambiguous launch.

 

[FishPharm]

i have a theory - Google doesn't want to push and market the G-Nex too hard. why? because they don't want to alienate and sabotage their hardware partners. they don't want to cannibalize all of the other hordes of currently selling Google phones out there. so Google WANTS a soft, ambiguous launch.

I dunno...I think Google would want their newest and greatest OS out before or by the Christmas shopping season to create a stir for the upcoming phones that will have it. I was told by a few Verizon employees that Verizon bids on the new phones and the right for exclusivity. So I think Google/Samsung made a mistake by not putting contracts in place that dictated the release of this phone by the busiest shopping week of the season....hopefully I will be wrong on that one. It also shocks me that they would be willing to give Apple such a long time with the release of their iphone4s and basically let Verizon decide when ICS would be released. Like I said before, If this phone isn't out in November Google and Samsung will look even more novice when compared to Apple. When Apple says a device will be ready ...its ready. When Google/Samsung say a device will be ready .... we get 6 weeks of rumors and delays.

 

[Gekko]

unfortunately - the masses out there buying phones don't know the difference between Gingerbread and Ice Cream Sammmmmmmmmich. they are still buying the phones en masse.

 

[crzycrkr]

Gekko, I completely agree with your last two comments. That is why I keep reminding oeople the Nexus is a dev phone, NOT a flagship. Verizon has too much invested in the Droid name to give any type of preferential treatment to the Nexus

 

[akhi216]

Slowest launch? How about the Thunderbolt fiasco? Or the Bionic launch which was even worse?

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[Jet300]

Slowest launch? How about the Thunderbolt fiasco? Or the Bionic launch which was even worse?

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This. I was thinking the exact same thing. You can also add the HTC Merge to that list....

 

[Mooem]

i have a theory - Google doesn't want to push and market the G-Nex too hard. why? because they don't want to alienate and sabotage their hardware partners. they don't want to cannibalize all of the other hordes of currently selling Google phones out there. so Google WANTS a soft, ambiguous launch.

Google may not want to push and market the Galaxy Nexus too hard, but I think you're forgetting a major player in this whole equation...Samsung.

As Phil mentioned in the podcast, this is a "Samsung Galaxy Nexus". In my opinion, they have an equal or more of an investment in this device selling than Google. Doubly so since it's their only announced high end 4G device on Verizon. And Samsung needs something to compete with the Razr and Rezound. I certainly don't think Samsung is going to let this phone go quietly in the night even if it has to pick up the slack in advertisement this holiday season. They have a brand name and image to protect now.

 

[Gekko]

Google may not want to push and market the Galaxy Nexus too hard, but I think you're forgetting a major player in this whole equation...Samsung.

As Phil mentioned in the podcast, this is a "Samsung Galaxy Nexus". In my opinion, they have an equal or more of an investment in this device selling than Google. Doubly so since it's their only announced high end 4G device on Verizon. And Samsung needs something to compete with the Razr and Rezound. I certainly don't think Samsung is going to let this phone go quietly in the night even if it has to pick up the slack in advertisement this holiday season. They have a brand name and image to protect now.

Samsung is plenty happy to sell SGII's on all of the other carriers. and sell the G-Nex on VZW. if you watched the Samsung VP on the Fox News interview - he said something like - "Well we have the SGII on X, Y, and Z carriers - and we have the G-Nex on VZW." so it sounded like Samsung THINKS all of their bases are covered - which is essentially - "Galaxys are available everywhere for everyone!" do i agree with it? hell no. but i can understand the business decision.

i want a Sprint G-Nex!