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[Village_Idiot]

Not when it comes to RCS. Carriers and third party developers aren't adopting it and when it effects your product that you are allowing open source is being effected you have the right to force it.

So they don't adopt it. So what? That's their problem. Ultimately, the market will decide, not Google.

You can always use Google's servers or move to a carrier that has adopted it. That is a feature of market based economy. I'm on Verizon and RCS works fine. Granted, I'm using Google's RCS services. But that is by MY choice not Google's. I could also use Verizon Messages+, Samsung Messages, Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram, Kik, Textra or any other service or app. That is my choice, not Verizon's, not Google's, not Apple's.

That is one of the beauties of Android and why so many people like it. If I wanted it forced on me, I would be using an iPhone and we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

So they don't adopt it. So what? That's their problem. Ultimately, the market will decide, not Google.

You can always use Google's servers or move to a carrier that has adopted it. That is a feature of market based economy. I'm on Verizon and RCS works fine. Granted, I'm using Google's RCS services. But that is by MY choice not Google's. I could also use Verizon Messages+, Samsung Messages, Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram, Kik, Textra or any other service or app. That is my choice, not Verizon's, not Google's, not Apple's.

That is one of the beauties of Android and why so many people like it. If I wanted it forced on me, I would be using an iPhone and we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

You are proving my point. I can use Verizon messages to get RCS, I could use Google's messages for RCS. The point is both parties have to use the same messaging app to get the RCS benefit. Nobody is going to switch to another messaging app that has RCS.

I didn't say everyone has to use Google messages, I said the Google RCS has to be in the texting apps you choose to use.

 

[Village_Idiot]

You are proving my point. I can use Verizon messages to get RCS, I could use Google's messages for RCS. The point is both parties have to use the same messaging app to get the RCS benefit. Nobody is going to switch to another messaging app that has RCS.

I didn't say everyone has to use Google messages, I said the Google RCS has to be in the texting apps you choose to use.

Like I said, let the market decide. It will work itself out. Forcing it will only make it worse, not better.

Android is an open source OS. Google doesn't force device OEMs to implement all of the features in Android. The whole point is that it provides a framework for OEMs to work with.

RCS is the same. It is a framework for carriers to implement as they see fit. By allowing Google to force everyone to use RCS would make everyone use Google's version of RCS. That may or many not work with every carriers' infrastructure.

Your handle is "Trucks move America." Think about what would happen to the trucking industry if everybody was forced to adhere to the standards of one truck manufacturer.

That would be the same as forcing all truck manufacturers to build trucks according to Peterbilt's version of truck standards. Would it adhere to State and Federal DOT standards? Sure, but there are different ways to build trucks that would still adhere to those standards.

 

[bkeaver]

To add ...... I've always been an a Samsung gal but have recently gotten the Pixel Fold which I love nevertheless an Android

I love my pixel fold as well

 

[Village_Idiot]

I love my pixel fold as well

I'm not quite ready to get a foldable phone just yet. I like the concept and I like how both Samsung and Microsoft implemented it. In some ways I like Microsoft's solution better. I think they gave up too quickly. It took them three iterations of the Surface line to get it right. I think they could have really shaken up the market with a Duo 3 that implemented all of the lessons learned from the first two.

I have no problems with having a tablet (Tab S9) and a phone as two separate devices. Both are excellent devices for what they are designed to do. I'm going to give it another year or two to see how it shakes out.

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

Like I said, let the market decide. It will work itself out. Forcing it will only make it worse, not better.
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Looks to me the market in the United States is making the decision...android is losing and the texting not being able to send videos and such across the board is a issue.

Google forces our hands on a lot of things and forcing RCS on to test messaging apps would be in Google's interest.

It's how I see it, not everyone will agree so that's fine. I'm just tired of not being able to send videos and such to people because they are using something besides Google messages. If Google can't have Google phones communicate between each other the same way it's a issue IMO, and the market in the United States is saying it is part of the issue. People are tired of having video limitations and apple answered that question and that's part of the reason people use iPhone.

 

[Village_Idiot]

Apple knows it cannot let go of its ecosystem...at all!
If Apple allowed other OEM's to use its OS then the playing field would surely become far more level! Can you imagine being able to buy a Samsung, Pixel, OnePlus, or Moto phone and having a choice between Android, or iOS installed? I wonder what that would do to the market? I think, that in relatively short order, we would see which Operating System is truly the best!

It works for Microsoft. Windows is a proprietary OS. OEMs are not allowed modify it without Microsoft's permission. However, If you have a Windows based PC or laptop, you can install Linux or even Chrome OS on it. You could even have a dual boot capability and have both Linux and Windows.

You don't have to use Microsoft Office on a Windows PC. You can install LibreOffice, Corel WordPerfect Office or some other suite. I can install GIMP for image editing and there are other cheap or free video editing apps. You have a plethora of web browsers to choose from and of course...GAMES.

Apple has painted itself into a corner by createing its own little walled garden. It is starting to come back to bite them.

 

[Village_Idiot]

Looks to me the market in the United States is making the decision...android is losing and the texting not being able to send videos and such across the board is a issue.

And that is perfectly fine. That is how free markets work. They don't work at all if there is a heavy-handed approach to which standards are to be adhered to.

 

[sulla1965]

I too see nothing but iPhones when I go out. I actually don't know anyone who doesn't have an iPhone. This one of the main reasons I don't buy iPhones. I hate being just like everyone else.

But it is what it is.

 

[Rose4uKY]

We are a Samsung household and my parents have Pixels. My boss and his family are Samsung users, and I have more than a few co-workers that are Android (predominantly Samsung) users.

The only phones I liked as much as Samsung phones were the Lumia phones with Windows Mobile (formerly Windows Phone). Tied for second were the Palm Treos and Blackberries. The only Android phone I did not like was the HTC One M9. HTC took a good phone, the HTC One M8 and screwed it up with the M9. The only iPhone I ever used was the 6S+. It replaced the HTC. It was better than the HTC, but not as good as a Samsung or a Pixel. My iPhone like every other iPhone is just...meh...

Agree about HTC M8 was great M9 they ruined it. I remember waiting in line at the Sprint store to get the HTC Evo.

 

[BijouVixen]

Agree about HTC M8 was great M9 they ruined it. I remember waiting in line at the Sprint store to get the HTC Evo.

I remember when I had a M8 and OMG I loved that phone when it first was released!!! It had such a premium feel in my hands albeit it was slippery but I had that naked for the entire 2 years I owned it!!

 

[mustang7757]

I remember when I had a M8 and OMG I loved that phone when it first was released!!! It had such a premium feel in my hands albeit it was slippery but I had that naked for the entire 2 years I owned it!!

M8 was awesome still have it but battery went out I converted to Google Play edition

 

[Laura Knotek]

I agree that having an iPhone is great if one also has: a Mac, an iPad, and/or any other Apple products. I've never had any interest in an iPhone because I've never owned any other Apple products. Without investment in the Apple ecosystem, the iPhone holds no appeal to me.

 

[Bkdodger1]

I agree that having an iPhone is great if one also has: a Mac, an iPad, and/or any other Apple products. I've never had any interest in an iPhone because I've never owned any other Apple products. Without investment in the Apple ecosystem, the iPhone holds no appeal to me.

Yup ...I've used an iPad no longer needed ..MacBook Pro and iMac now along with AW Ultra ...all just comes together with my iPhone ... ecosystem is big once you add along devices

 

[Rose4uKY]

I agree that having an iPhone is great if one also has: a Mac, an iPad, and/or any other Apple products. I've never had any interest in an iPhone because I've never owned any other Apple products. Without investment in the Apple ecosystem, the iPhone holds no appeal to me.

I agree and I have never had Apple anything but I do wish I had Apple TV cause I really want to watch The morning Show with Jennifer and Reese LOL! I used to always hear though that for phones Android was better and for tablets Apple was better but I still will never do Apple. I love Android and this 24U is the best ever. We have a cruise coming up a Rock & Roll Cruise with some good bands and I can't wait to try video. I don't know what setting to do though I just hit video and I don't know what it is defaulted too. I watched a you tube video about recording from lenses at once that sounds cool.

 

[Laura Knotek]

I agree and I have never had Apple anything but I do wish I had Apple TV cause I really want to watch The morning Show with Jennifer and Reese LOL! I used to always hear though that for phones Android was better and for tablets Apple was better but I still will never do Apple. I love Android and this 24U is the best ever. We have a cruise coming up a Rock & Roll Cruise with some good bands and I can't wait to try video. I don't know what setting to do though I just hit video and I don't know what it is defaulted too. I watched a you tube video about recording from lenses at once that sounds cool.

I've never done video, just photo, but that cruise sounds fun. When is it?

 

[Village_Idiot]

My stint into the iPhone arena was short lived (about a year or so). It integrated fairly well with my Windows PCs. But I still used Gmail, M365, Verizon Messages+, and Waze/Google Maps for my day-to-day stuff. Synching pictures with iCloud was ok. But it didn't integrate with my OneDrive. Apple Music was nice, but again...meh. I like how when I take a picture or shoot a video on my phone that it automatically uploads to OneDrive. Sure, I could do that with Google Photos, but a) I have 2TB of OneDrive storage, and b) I think Microsoft's cloud solution is better implemented than Google's.

I'm not moving away from Samsung anytime soon. I am more into the Microsoft ecosystem than I am into Google's. Samsung works better with Microsoft than the other Android OEMs. If Google offered the same level of integration with Microsoft that Samsung does, or if Microsoft could come up with an Android powered (or even Windows powered) device, I would consider moving away from Samsung.

 

[Village_Idiot]

Oh, and there's the S pen. The only other OEM to truly match Samsung in that arena is Microsoft with its Surface Pen. Had Microsoft and Samsung collaborated and made both the S pen and Surface Pen cross compatible between their respective devices, I don't think I would have left the Microsoft Surface ecosystem. As it is, the S pen on my Tab S9 works flawlessly with my Galaxy Book2 360 Pro and my S24 Ultra, and vice versa.

 

[Bkdodger1]

I always say I'm going to use the S Pen this time and after a few uses it stays tucked in the phone haha

 

[trucksmoveamerica#AC]

Yup .....all just comes together with my iPhone ... ecosystem is big once you add along devices

And once you build a ecosystem over a couple years it's hard to leave it due to being used to it and the cost of changing over to a new ecosystem. Apple was just the ones that built a good ecosystem first and a long time ago.