Something just isn't adding up with this poor battery life.

[warpdrive]

I have T-Mobile and don't have the issue anymore by switching wifi. So please don't blame it on that fully since but isn't true .

Your problem may have been solved with a few tweaks that you did on wifi. But before you did so you had the issues.

Me on AT&T never had an issue due to wifi calling as it's not built in to the software that AT&T provides.

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[erasat]

Mistake on my part regarding the Z3, thank you for mentioning it. Not sure if you know about the Galaxy S5 model with the QHD screen, but that device barely had a battery life difference from the standard variant. I don't believe the QHD display really takes a hit on the battery life. But anyways, very few Galaxy S6 owners are getting 5.5-6 hours of SoT, which if everyone could then that would be great because that's what I am currently getting on my Note 4 and I would love to get that on my S6 (just got my S6 so i cant comment on my personal experience with the battery). But in all honesty it has to be the software right? If it wasn't due to software how would we explain the iPhone 6 getting through a day with only a 1810 mAh battery? Im extremely curious to see how the phone would perform running a different software and/or skin.

You can't keep comparing different phones with different hardware and OS is not an apple to apple comparison. The iPhone has just a 4.7" with 750 x1334 resolution display, running on a dual core cpu that as far as I know run most of their services in just one core, then you have that they basically doesn't run anything on the background as they don't offer true multitasking due to its eternal low Ram capacity of 1 GB. And let us forget that due to all that Apple simply optimize every I'm software and driver plus force all developer to work around that limitation.

Android in general have dozens of services and applications running in the background to allow for true multitasking plus all the Google services and other third party apps syncing all the time.

I know that you are trying to compare smartphone to smartphone but there is no way to do a fair comparison between these 2 platforms, better comparisons should be done between similar equipped Android Flagship.

One more thing has there are a lot of us getting 5+ hours of SOT, and I know that there are a lot of others that are not but that's also another story because every user uses their phone totally different than the other, what works for me not necessary will work for you and your use. But we can agree that the are others that are simply getting to little SoT due to just the mentioned Lollipop bugs. Those are the ones that should try to do some tweaks or even Full Reset to see if they can get better life until the bugs are fixed or just use the 14 days return window and get a replacement or return for a refund.

 

[jcp007]

Do you even own a GS6'and have any first hand experience? To clarify, Lollipop 5.0.2 is the Android OS and TouchWiz is the Samsung UI skin over Lollipop? TouchWiz is unlikely as the source of those afflicted with less than great battery life.

 

[warpdrive]

Not sure if this was a sincere or sarcastic comment, but anyways I would if I knew how and it didn't involve having to root my device. I personally have no knowledge whatsoever regarding rooting devices and/or flashing roms on them so I'm not sure if this is even possible. However, hypothetically speaking this would be an interesting test wouldn't it?

No it would NOT be an interesting test.
For one thing it will probably brick your phone because most of the SoC will not be able to run with a 32 bit operating system.

But if it did run I'm sure most of the features will not work and would be worthless to try.

But I still think it's a great idea.

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[KyleDC]

You can't keep comparing different phones with different hardware and OS is not an apple to apple comparison. The iPhone has just a 4.7" with 750 x1334 resolution display, running on a dual core cpu that as far as I know run most of their services in just one core, then you have that they basically doesn't run anything on the background as they don't offer true multitasking due to its eternal low Ram capacity of 1 GB. And let us forget that due to all that Apple simply optimize every I'm software and driver plus force all developer to work around that limitation.

Android in general have dozens of services and applications running in the background to allow for true multitasking plus all the Google services and other third party apps syncing all the time.

I know that got are trying to compare smartphone to smartphone but there is no way to do a fair comparison with those 2 platforms, better comparisons should be done between similar equipped Android Flagship.

One more thing has there are a lot of us getting 5+ hours of SOT, and I know that there are a lot of others that are not but that's also another story because every user uses their phone totally different than the other, what works for me not necessary will work for you and your use. But we can agree that the are others that are simply getting to little SoT due to just the mentioned Lollipop bugs. Those are the ones that should try to do some tweaks or even Full Reset to see if they can get better life until the bugs are fixed or just use the 14 days return window and get a replacement or return for a refund.

I understand that its not fare to compare Android to Apple which is why I gave 3 examples of Android devices with a marginal increase in battery capacity that have a major increase in battery life for some reason. The Apple reference was just to show how if Samsung really wanted to or Google with Android for that matter could truly increase battery life by digging deep into the software and cleaning it up (which is close to what you just mentioned about the lollipop bugs). Also, to my knowledge, based off what I have reading and hearing is that majority of S6 users are not even getting close to 5 hours of SOT which is why I made this post. If you scroll up you'll see that a user has managed to get 6 hours of SOT and he/she claimed that "Everything was turned on and that's even things left off by default, and they gamed for over 3 hours, were on YouTube for an hour, texted and emailed, and used the web for an hour." Do these people just have faulty devices are is there something wrong software wise that will fix their devices? Right now no one knows.

 

[KyleDC]

Do you even own a GS6'and have any first hand experience? To clarify, Lollipop 5.0.2 is the Android OS and TouchWiz is the Samsung UI skin over Lollipop? TouchWiz is unlikely as the source of those afflicted with less than great battery life.

I just received my Galaxy S6 but haven't used it enough to say how good or bad the battery life has been for me personally. But even if I did it still doesn't affect my point as I stated that some are getting good battery life and some just aren't so one more good or bad battery life story doesn't matter. Also I'm pretty sure it would be simple for a company to completely screw up their skin of Lollipop and cause the device to lag and consume more battery life as this is what we have been seeing with past Samsung devices. If they dedicated themselves, or even a small team, both Samsung and Google, to improve the software they could most definitely improve the battery life of all android devices.

 

[droidguy1964]

I just received my Galaxy S6 but haven't used it enough to say how good or bad the battery life has been for me personally. But even if I did it still doesn't affect my point as I stated that some are getting good battery life and some just aren't so one more good or bad battery life story doesn't matter. Also I'm pretty sure it would be simple for a company to completely screw up their skin of Lollipop and cause the device to lag and consume more battery life as this is what we have been seeing with past Samsung devices. If they dedicated themselves, or even a small team, both Samsung and Google, to improve the software they could most definitely improve the battery life of all android devices.

Agreed.

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[jcp007]

I understand that its not fare to compare Android to Apple which is why I gave 3 examples of Android devices with a marginal increase in battery capacity that have a major increase in battery life for some reason. The Apple reference was just to show how if Samsung really wanted to or Google with Android for that matter could truly increase battery life by digging deep into the software and cleaning it up (which is close to what you just mentioned about the lollipop bugs). Also, to my knowledge, based off what I have reading and hearing is that majority of S6 users are not even getting close to 5 hours of SOT which is why I made this post. If you scroll up you'll see that a user has managed to get 6 hours of SOT and he/she claimed that "Everything was turned on and that's even things left off by default, and they gamed for over 3 hours, were on YouTube for an hour, texted and emailed, and used the web for an hour." Do these people just have faulty devices are is there something wrong software wise that will fix their devices? Right now no one knows.

You're right. No one knows for sure but with those struggling with battery life issues, at least for some, the common denominator APPEARS to be Google Play Services. Battery life struggles could also be exacerbated by carrier device configuration and network signal strength. Samsung has already pushed out an update that has helped some. I am sure that a number of Googly geniuses are diligently working on this. Maybe it will be addressed with Lollipop 5.1.1.

 

[KyleDC]

You're right. No one knows for sure but with those struggling with battery life issues, at least for some, the common denominator APPEARS to be Google Play Services. Battery life struggles could also be exacerbated by carrier device configuration and network signal strength. Samsung has already pushed out an update that has helped some. I am sure that a number of Googly geniuses are diligently working on this. Maybe it will be addressed with Lollipop 5.1.1.

Completely true!

 

[Almeuit]

Your problem may have been solved with a few tweaks that you did on wifi. But before you did so you had the issues.

Me on AT&T never had an issue due to wifi calling as it's not built in to the software that AT&T provides.

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And I've seen AT&T / Verizon users with the same issues (cell standby) .. So your claim that it is only T-Mobile is incorrect... Since as you said they don't have wifi calling but are reporting the exact same drain from the exact same component.

 

[clmazda]

I'm getting great battery life on my Samsung S6. I get around 20-23 hours, including 7-8 hours of sleep where I don't use the phone. I would say I'm a moderate user. And I don't get good reception at my place with Rogers.

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[player22]

I'm on verizon and cell stand by is always number 1 or 2 in my battery usage wether I let phone sit without use or use it non stop right after unplugging it. Not as bad when wifi is off but still around the top. And yes I've done all the things in this forum suggested. The crazy part is I still get pretty good Battery life anyway .
But yes it's not only tmobile with this issue.

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[titans30dude]

No it would NOT be an interesting test.
For one thing it will probably brick your phone because most of the SoC will not be able to run with a 32 bit operating system.

But if it did run I'm sure most of the features will not work and would be worthless to try.

But I still think it's a great idea.

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To my knowledge its backwards compatible just like computers are. You can run 32-bit windows all day on a 64-bit computer. You can even dual boot it like that.

 

[jcp007]

I just received my Galaxy S6 but haven't used it enough to say how good or bad the battery life has been for me personally. But even if I did it still doesn't affect my point as I stated that some are getting good battery life and some just aren't so one more good or bad battery life story doesn't matter. Also I'm pretty sure it would be simple for a company to completely screw up their skin of Lollipop and cause the device to lag and consume more battery life as this is what we have been seeing with past Samsung devices. If they dedicated themselves, or even a small team, both Samsung and Google, to improve the software they could most definitely improve the battery life of all android devices.

On my AT&T GS6, there is no lag issue. You might want to spend some time playing with the various menus just so you learn more about tuning it to your liking. Any updates will involve Google, Samsung and carrier. The TouchWiz UI footprint is a bit smaller and is more streamlined and unified. It is far less klunky than the versions in prior Galaxy S devices. You might notice this in the phone or stock messaging apps. There are a lot fewer gimmicky UI features that were excluded. Samsung also allowed you to disable bloat and to load apps previously found on the GS5 at the your discretion.

 

[bhatech]

Lol people still think the cell stand by is T-Mobile only issue? There are many people across carriers reporting issues that cell stand by chewing off battery when WiFi is turned on.

 

[KyleDC]

On my AT&T GS6, there is no lag issue. You might want to spend some time playing with the various menus just so you learn more about tuning it to your liking. Any updates will involve Google, Samsung and carrier. The TouchWiz UI footprint is a bit smaller and is more streamlined and unified. It is far less klunky than the versions in prior Galaxy S devices. You might notice this in the phone or stock messaging apps. There are a lot fewer gimmicky UI features that were excluded. Samsung also allowed you to disable bloat and to load apps previously found on the GS5 at the your discretion.

Im not referring to lag on the S6 as I havent had it lag at all for yet, im referring to past iterations of TouchWiz.

 

[warpdrive]

And I've seen AT&T / Verizon users with the same issues (cell standby) .. So your claim that it is only T-Mobile is incorrect... Since as you said they don't have wifi calling but are reporting the exact same drain from the exact same component.

Your right, even I have issues if everything is turned on full blast. I've shown it too. But since I'm on AT&T, I don't have the 4th issue. The same 4th issue people on Verizon also don't have.

The problem is not one issue as I see it. It's 4 issues that are causing the battery drain. I've tested and watched it closely and know what's causing it.

But while there might be some bad phones on Verizon and AT&T, the vast majority are not lemons and do not have cell standby issues caused by wifi calling at all.

So I'll repeat myself for the last time. There are 4 things that cause high cell standby. 2 are due to wifi issues, 1 by location services, and the last only T-Mobile have with wifi calling.
The first 3 are lollypop related. The last one is fully a T-Mobile issue.

Anyone not on T-Mobile that gets less than 4 hours of SoT has a faulty unit or is in a rally bad cell reception area. There is no further issues on Verizon or AT&T besides what is in lollypop. Nobody on Verizon or AT&T with a perfectly good phone is getting results like on T-Mobile.

I'm getting 5 hours of SoT with plenty of gaming and video streaming and everything turned on full blast. That my friend is the norm on AT&T and Verizon. The ones who complain are the exception to the norm and not what is normal.

If you see anyone who is getting less than 4 hours of screen on time with AT&T or Verizon, send them my way, I'll help them and get them going in the right direction or determine that it is just a faulty device.

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[Almeuit]

Your right, even I have issues if everything is turned on full blast. I've shown it too. But since I'm on AT&T, I don't have the 4th issue. The same 4th issue people on Verizon also don't have.

The problem is not one issue as I see it. It's 4 issues that are causing the battery drain. I've tested and watched it closely and know what's causing it.

But while there might be some bad phones on Verizon and AT&T, the vast majority are not lemons and do not have cell standby issues caused by wifi calling at all.

So I'll repeat myself for the last time. There are 4 things that cause high cell standby. 2 are due to wifi issues, 1 by location services, and the last only T-Mobile have with wifi calling.
The first 3 are lollypop related. The last one is fully a T-Mobile issue.

Anyone not on T-Mobile that gets less than 4 hours of SoT has a faulty unit or is in a rally bad cell reception area. There is no further issues on Verizon or AT&T besides what is in lollypop. Nobody on Verizon or AT&T with a perfectly good phone is getting results like on T-Mobile.

I'm getting 5 hours of SoT with plenty of gaming and video streaming and everything turned on full blast. That my friend is the norm on AT&T and Verizon. The ones who complain are the exception to the norm and not what is normal.

If you see anyone who is getting less than 4 hours of screen on time with AT&T or Verizon, send them my way, I'll help them and get them going in the right direction or determine that it is just a faulty device.

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But once again it isn't T-Mobile specific. It is on all carriers and wifi calling doesn't seem to cause the drain. With wifi calling on or off I got the drain... With wifi calling on.. On my 2.4 GHz network there is no drain. So It has literally nothing to do with the wifi calling... It is the software and wifi on the phone for all carriers. I bet 5.1 lollipop would solve it.

 

[warpdrive]

But once again it isn't T-Mobile specific. It is on all carriers and wifi calling doesn't seem to cause the drain. With wifi calling on or off I got the drain... With wifi calling on.. On my 2.4 GHz network there is no drain. So It has literally nothing to do with the wifi calling... It is the software and wifi on the phone for all carriers. I bet 5.1 lollipop would solve it.

With default settings you have the T-Mobile specific issue. Nobody else has that added issue. You are not seeing Verizon or AT&T users with less than 4 hours of SoT. There is nothing else to say or add to this subject. You are even listing what you did to temporarily fix the issue for you, so clearly you have said T-Mobile ONLY issue.

Thank you and goodnight. /bow

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[warpdrive]

I just received my Galaxy S6 but haven't used it enough to say how good or bad the battery life has been for me personally. But even if I did it still doesn't affect my point as I stated that some are getting good battery life and some just aren't so one more good or bad battery life story doesn't matter. Also I'm pretty sure it would be simple for a company to completely screw up their skin of Lollipop and cause the device to lag and consume more battery life as this is what we have been seeing with past Samsung devices. If they dedicated themselves, or even a small team, both Samsung and Google, to improve the software they could most definitely improve the battery life of all android devices.

I'll say it again, the discrepancy in SoT is for the most part is the fact that some people are on T-Mobile and the rest aren't.

If you read a review like from this website. You'll find that Andrew did a great job of reviewing the phone. But he used a T-Mobile device and thus his thoughts on battery life is poor. Read other reviews that also used a T-Mobile device and you'll find the same results. Now read a review or look at the battery life of users/reviewers on AT&T and Verizon and you'll see 5 to 6 hours of SoT as compared to 2.5 to 3.5 hours of SoT with T-Mobile.

This is a dead topic. The phone never had poor battery life even with the bugs in lollypop. Only T-Mobile phones had poor battery life. It's as simple as that.

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